PBP: Xavi Vs Pirlo

Discussion in 'Players & Legends' started by the one and only, Jul 13, 2012.

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So who's better???

  1. Xavi

    18 vote(s)
    34.0%
  2. Pirlo

    31 vote(s)
    58.5%
  3. Both overrated

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  4. Iniesta will always steal the spotlight from them

    3 vote(s)
    5.7%
  1. the one and only

    Jul 15, 2011
    ^^ Pirlo is not a better dribbler than Xavi IMO, but of them aren't very good dribblers by the way
     
  2. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    they both were not very good dribbler (like Iniesta in MF) , but Pirlo is better then Xavi there
     
  3. the one and only

    Jul 15, 2011
    I don't know about that, Xavi is better in tight spaces which makes him a better dribbler than Pirlo imo
     
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  4. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    #54 JamesBH11, Jun 5, 2014
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2014
    then you should watch more of Pirlo.

    People are confused between close ball control *which I did give an edge for Xavi. with dribbling.
    For example: Zidane was betetr at close ball conrtol then CR7, but not necessary a better dribbler then CR7.

    For example of last Euro2012:
    Dribbles: Ribery 38 >Iniesta 26 >Ozil 20 > Pirlo 15 > Xavi 10
     
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  5. Edhardy

    Edhardy Member+

    Sep 4, 2013
    Nairobi, Kenya
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    @JamesBH11, I don't think Barca in 2004 were necessarily stronger than Milan. Milan had won the CL 2 seasons prior and were finalists that season losing after leading 3-0 against Liverpool. But in their group encounters Xavi perfomed better IMO.
     
  6. the one and only

    Jul 15, 2011
    the difference between 15 & 10 is little though, especially given the fact that Pirlo had a good tournament while Xavi only really showed up in the finals.
     
  7. Jaweirdo

    Jaweirdo Member+

    Aug 19, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    So?
     
  8. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    agree with you ... but sometimes it's not obvious to say which one is better in dribbling , unless they are like Messi, Neymar Ribery ....
     
  9. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    Look ,
    First I never said Xavi was not better in that ONE game ... but what about the 1st leg where Milan won 1-0?
    Even so, one game or two did not mean much.
    Barca 2004-05 were in strong transition into their greatest empire .. thanks to Rijkaard Ronaldinho and Etoo'
    In taht game Kaka was absent ... Rui Costa was old and passed his peak ... Kaka was best MF of UCL 2004-05 and Ronaldinho was best FW 2004-05 anyway ... Neither Xavi nor Pirlo was in the bests XI

    Lastly, I never said Pirlo was or is better player, but I just bring up some facts that he is indeed ON PAR with Xavi ... while many younger fans quickly calim Xavi is better - just because of Spain and Barca won many things!
    Tha's all
     
  10. Edhardy

    Edhardy Member+

    Sep 4, 2013
    Nairobi, Kenya
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    @JamesBH11 those days Xavi and Pirlo were a little underappreciated and Pirlo is still kind of underrated so it's no surprise to see them missing from those Best XI's... Gerrard, Lampard, Ballack etc were the midfielders likelier to get recognition.
    Anyway I'm just refuting your claim/the common claim that Xavi only started performing in 2008. Even by early 2000s Xavi was capable of some class perfomances regardless of Barca being quite unstable.
     
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  11. Scanderbeg

    Scanderbeg Member

    May 22, 2014
    FK Pirlo>Zidane
    Long Shot Pirlo>Zidane
    Long Pass Pirlo>Zidane
     
  12. Scanderbeg

    Scanderbeg Member

    May 22, 2014
    nop for me

    Ronaldhinio is lower than Rivaldo, Zidane, Pirlo, Iniesta and Xavi.
    Ronaldinho is the one of less inconsistent players ever.
    2 years at hight level, and was avarage in Nt, lower than Pirlo, Xavi and Iniesta.

    Ronaldo also has nothing to do with the others, he was a striker.
     
  13. the one and only

    Jul 15, 2011
    Zidane scored FKs just like Pirlo, he scored some long range screamers (just as much if not more than Pirlo has), had a good long range pass like Pirlo although he tried it much less than Pirlo as Pirlo's game is mainly based on that.
    The only clear cut advantage i'll say Pirlo has is his long range passing.
     
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  14. Scanderbeg

    Scanderbeg Member

    May 22, 2014
    Pirlo in log shots is by far better than Zidane, I don't remember a goal from distance by Zidane in the World Cup for example. Pirlo is by far a better FK taker than Zidane.

    Zidane is better than Pirlo only in dribbling and header. Pirlo is a better playmaker than Zidane for me.
     
  15. the one and only

    Jul 15, 2011
    And when did Pirlo do that??? maybe i missed it???
    I don't remember Pirlo scoring a left foot volley in a CL final like Zidane did either, i don't even remember him scoring many FKs in the WC & EC competitions (i only remember 1 FK from last EC). And Zidane scored screamers with his right and left legs also...
     
  16. Scanderbeg

    Scanderbeg Member

    May 22, 2014
    long shot



    a decisive goal in the match against Ghana
     
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  17. the one and only

    Jul 15, 2011
    ^^ Nice goal i remember that one, but it's more of a "placed" ball/shot than a real strike imo
     
  18. Scanderbeg

    Scanderbeg Member

    May 22, 2014
    another decise goal in the game against Croatia



    Zidane is famous for his head :ROFLMAO:
    seriously i don't remember a wolrd class goal form Zidane in WC or EC , the world cup 98 was a mediocre tournament for him.
    For me Pirlo was more consistent and better than Zidane even in world cup 2006. Zidane was just more spectacular, his way of playing attracts more eyes. Pirlo was more decisive and consistent. Zidane has a great game vs Brazil, good vs Spain and Portugal a phantom in the group stage, expelled in the final.
     
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  19. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Zidane was excellent in the WC06 final, driving France to maintaining greater possession but the Italian defense was very strong. The red card does not change what he had done the previous 110 minutes.
     
  20. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    huh? Iniesta and Xavi had LEARNED ALOT from master Ronaldinho and became better when Ronnie left the club/

    ronaldinho was better then Kaka, and Kaka was obviously the best player at MIlan when Pirlo played OK?

    You need a ZOOM UP in your watching tool LOL

    In pure skills, Ronnie was probably the BEST among all ... including Zidane
    Ronaldo was there, as he represent one of the best (if not the best ) in his time - until Messi showed up in 2010
     
  21. Scanderbeg

    Scanderbeg Member

    May 22, 2014

    Kakà 2006/2007 is better than any version of Ronaldhinio, less spectacular but more dominant. Ronaldhinio is a lot overrated, he was not consistent player and this is the most important thing

    Ronaldinho has become one of the most overrated players in history, thanks to you tube, is the same for Zidane but less.

    Ronaldhinio never has a great tournament in NT or in Clubs, Kaka won the CL on his own and carred ac Milan in the Final in Cl of 2006.

    Ronaldhinio is one of most skillfull players ever? opinions totally subjective, for me was more spectacular than skillful.

    He is considered one of the best dribblers ever (in you tube), but rarely he can beats more than 1 player, without naming Messi, Di Maria is better dribbler than him. Kakà in top of the form was more effective dribbler than him
     
  22. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Ridiculous, absurd, inane. Ronaldinho of 04 to 06 is higher by an order of magnitude than any of Kaka's seasons, it's not even worth a discussion.
     
  23. Estel

    Estel Member+

    May 5, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid



    In any case, I don't think Zidane needs to be brought into a discussion on deep-lying playmakers. He rarely played that role. If you need to add another player, you can add Redondo instead to the mix and it would make for a more fruitful discussion.

    And Pirlo over Xavi for me.
     
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  24. Jaweirdo

    Jaweirdo Member+

    Aug 19, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I dont get why people pick Pirlo over Xavi, just because he does long range passing
     
  25. laudrup_10

    laudrup_10 Member

    Jun 6, 2011
    True as well as I do believe Zidane and France's route to the Final was much tougher than that of Pirlo's, France had to go through Spain,Brazil and Portugal. Good point on the final too as Zidane was in fine form before the red card. Pirlo's was excellent for much of Euro 2012 though.
     
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