WWJMcD? (what would John McCain do?)

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  1. Pathogen

    Pathogen Member

    Jul 19, 2004
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    Yeah, he's such a Lib he's continuing the policy of signing statements and the Patriot Act. What a commie that guy is.
     
  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
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    Among prominent Dems...Pelosi is the #1 in the house and Durbin (I think; him or Schumer) is #2 in the Senate. All 3 of them are left. Hoyer and Reid aren't.
     
  3. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

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    Jul 22, 2001
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    How far back are we going?
     
  4. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
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    lie like a 'skilled' politician or forgetul geezer..not entirely sure which....Time to retire old man.... And bless Rachel.....

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4XqAYsL5vM"]YouTube- Rachel Maddow: C-SPAN Video Of John McCain's Objection Found - 12/21/09[/ame]
     
  5. MtMike

    MtMike Member+

    Nov 18, 1999
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    Thanks for giving a serious reply. I was hoping we weren't going to have to go to Kucinich for someone who's considered liberal.

    I don't know, Reid's either liberal or a Pelosi pushover. Not that they are mutually exclusive...
     
  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    1. How is he a pushover for Pelosi? The Senate "won" on health care and the stimulus package. Granted, that's probably 98% due to the Senate's newfound supermajority requirement, but really, the Senate gets what they want, not the House.
    2. Reid is pro-life.
     
  7. Txtriathlete

    Txtriathlete Member

    Aug 6, 2004
    The American Empire
    Who can forget this gem
    [ame="http://www.theonion.com/content/video/john_mccain_accidentally_left_on"]John McCain Accidentally Left On Campaign Bus Overnight | The Onion - America's Finest News Source[/ame]
     
  8. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    I'm thinking Reagan with Continental Bank in the 1980s. I'm guessing that I'm forgetting about some major events before that. :D
     
  9. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
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    I strongly suspect there was some Federal money spent in the panic of '07 when JP Morgan basically saved the banking system. I don't remember the details though. But obviously the S&L crisis was the one that I thought of first.
     
  10. MtMike

    MtMike Member+

    Nov 18, 1999
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    Certainly better (in my view) than most dems in congress. However, some of his decisions are definitely not "standard" pro-life views. On the issues has a really good summation

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/Harry_Reid_Abortion.htm

    29% rating by NARAL and a 50% rating by NRLC.
     
  11. Microwave

    Microwave New Member

    Sep 22, 1999
    as opposed to those who spout Obama talking points when his own economic advisors have admitted several failures and the CBO disagrees with almost everything Obama says. Nice! Oh and I noticed lots of people on the left are upset with Obama too, so what's that all about - racism?

    No doubt that Mccain would have sucked. No doubt Bush sucked. No doubt Clinton sucked and Obama sucks, to argue otherwise is as stupid as Steamers post.
     
  12. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
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    Ted's right. We haven't had an adult in the White House since 1992. I thought Obama was going to be it but he is not man enough. This can we all get along shit doesn't fly. Americans demand competency, character and leadership in their Presidents, which is not too much to ask. The last three have had a heavy deficiency in at least one of these areas.

    Clinton vs. Romney would have been a bore of an election but no matter what we would have gotten the president we need right now.
     
  13. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    Bullshit, we would have. You act as if the problems we face could be easily solved.
     
  14. PhillyQuakesFan

    PhillyQuakesFan New Member

    Jun 25, 2007
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    I disagree about the "no matter what". I supported Obama so strongly in the Democratic primaries because, as misguided as he is, he isn't evil.
     
  15. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
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    I'm sure that somewhere in your tiny mind there is a link between my post and what you have written. Not sure what it is, but if it works for you...Merry ********in' Christmas!
     
  16. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    you keep calling people "clueless" and telling them they have "tiny minds", etc. But when you are shown how wrong you are, you put your tail between your legs and run, rather than face it. You're the lamest poster on here.
     
  17. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    Coming from you, that's the highest compliment possible.
     
  18. argentine soccer fan

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    Yeah, but he appointed the evil one as Secretary of State.
     
  19. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

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    -he is showing some moderate tendencies while fighting this war on terrorism.
    -yet on foreign policy, he brings terrorists into our court system and away from g-bay and onto our land.
    he continually gives legitimacy to a brutal regime in Iran when he should be giving his support to the protesters.
    hardly a moderate.
    -economically, he continues to push for climate legislation when the only consensus on the topic is within the media and leftist groups such as sierra. this will increase gov't power to regulate/interfere with the economy.
    he handed Democratic supporting unions GM and Chrysler on a plate. he gave them power and $ over the rights of creditors.
    he wants increased gov't intervention/power/control and increased taxes in health care.
    hardly the record of an economic centrist.
     
  20. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
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    So? How does wanting to end the perpetual legal limbo of these prisoners make him too liberal?

    It's TOTALLY that straightforward. Definitely.

    Besides, wouldn't his support of an extreme right-wing government demonstrate that he's too far to the right, not left?

    a) Which House and Senate bill #s are you referring to?
    b) I'll let someone else handle the low hanging "consensus" fruit.

    Other than a Glenn Beck tirade, on what do you base the assertion that GM/Chrysler were handed to the unions on a plate?

    Increased gov't intervention/power/control isn't a left/right thing. it's an authoritarian/libertarian thing. "Increase taxes in health care" doesn't sound particularly informed either, given the sources of the funding in the Senate bill. Besides, how does trying to actually pay for the program you want (fixing a completely hosed health care system) make you a liberal. Bush avoided raising taxes to fund the program he wanted (unfounded war) by driving the debt into the stratusphere.

    No offense, but you sound like you're repeating talking points without demonstrating an understanding of the issues to which you're actually referring.
     
  21. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
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    Necro thread bump for McCain's end-of-life truth telling-palooza. He doesn't want Trump at his funeral and he says he's sorry that he picked Sockeye Sarah for VP

    Arizona GOP Senator John McCain said Saturday he’s sorry he chose then-Alaska governor Sarah Palin to be his running mate in the presidential race he lost to Barack Obama.

    He told the New York Times that if he could do it over he would have picked former Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut.

    Lieberman told The Times that he hadn’t known McCain felt that way. “It touched me greatly,” he said.

    Palin started out strong as the first female candidate for vice president. But she soon became a controversial figure. In one case, she denounced as “ridiculous” talk of the Republican National Committee’s $150,000 spending spree on clothing and accessories for the Palin family. “Those clothes, they are not my property,” she insisted.

    https://nypost.com/2018/05/06/john-mccain-i-regret-picking-sarah-palin-as-running-mate/
     
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  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Sarah Palin was not the first female candidate for Vice President. For a New York publication to get that wrong is egregious, even for the Murdoch Post.

    And that, boys and girls, is why people who think the media has a liberal bias are stupid,
     
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  23. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    And Lieberman was a horrible turncoat Dem (or some might say he became an IC. I don't) by the time he slinked out of DC.

    "In the Senate, during the three-and-a-half years that Sen. Barack Obama has been a member, he has not reached across party lines to ... accomplish anything significant, nor has he been willing to take on powerful interest groups in the Democratic Party to get something done," he said at the 2008 Republican convention.

    Democrats viewed that speech as blasphemy.

    "He could have given a speech defending John McCain, but instead he went on the offense and blistered Obama over his lack of foreign policy skills, which were a major Republican talking point," said Manley, a long-time senior aide to Harry Reid, the former Democratic Senate leader. "It caused a lot of ill will."

    https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/why-democrats-dont-like-joe-lieberman/index.html
     
  24. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
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    FYP.
     
  25. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    Butthurt Joe never got over losing to Lamont. He kind of became the Parker Griffith of the Senate.
     

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