WPSL 2006 division make up

There used to be an explanation on the team's own website, but it doesn't seem to be there any more - and I can't remember what it was...

The West still has 8 teams in it, but with Utah replaced by newcomer Sonoma Sol. I wonder why the Pride changed their name from Elk Grove to Sacramento.

 

The business plan, etc., section was there last year, albeit with some changes - especially about the differences between the east and west. I didn't look at the costs as closely as you did, so I didn't notice some of the discrepancies that you did. The minimum number of games is a hold-over from two years ago (and most teams didn't meet the requirement then because of the number of teams that didn't travel for their away games, that caused a lot of hard feelings), but because of the changes in the numbers of teams last year that dropped to 14.

The performance bond wouldn't be considered a cost if the team doesn't default on its responsibilities - as the funds would still belong to the team, not the league or anyone else. And of course the amount lessens each year as the team proves its trustworthyness.

 

Have they moved towards correcting the issue of having their teams, and possibly their league champion, only playing four official league games?

 

Sounds like a type of insurance in case the team goes bankrupt or closes.

 

A performance bond is a form of "insurance" that a team (or any other business) will perform its contractual obligation.

In this instance, it is a hammer to encourage teams to play all their WPSL games (including those expensive road trips to Las Vegas at the very end of the season, for example ). If a team flakes out, the League gets the $5000 (probably to share with the team or teams affected by the flake out).

I suppose they didn't include it in the budget because if you deposit $5000 cash in lieu of an actual bond, you can get the $5000 back after the season is over. So no net expense.

But the reality is, you have to come up with that $5000 before the season begins, so it really is an expense or a liability (balanced out by an equal asset on the other side of the books).

And probably it's waived for the solid teams that have been around for a while or otherwise have solid financial backing (for example the Storm, Ajax, Indiana).

 

That and the talent will be so watered down in Florida that you end up with 8 mediocre teams. Anyone want to start posting odds as to how many of these teams survive longer than 1 season?

 

Hey Bad Soccer,
how do you get out of bed in the morning, anyone so critical of everyone and everything must really suffer from depression so bad, do everyone a favor dont post anything if its not constructive or postitive, we are all here for the good of the womens game no matter what level.
you really are a depressive sad individual who has nothing but negative opinions about every team that has no interest to you.
do us all a favor dont say anything

 

Mr. Long John Silver-Lining-in-Every-Cloud - These aren't rah rah make everyone feel good message boards, they are message boards for people to post their opinions and if you don't like mine, form an opinion of your own and then make an argument against what I post. Don't embarrass yourself with personal attacks that try to make judgements about my personality.

That's one of the more laughable things I've read on BigSoccer in a long time. I didn't know that the well being of the game of women's soccer depended on everyone being constructive and positive on these forums.

Really in all seriousness - please if you don't like what I say, make me look bad by proving me wrong. That's what they call debating. Maybe you can make me a happier person by enlightening me on all the positive things you see in the world that make you so joyful.

 

Bad Soccer,

Its not my job to make you happier, I can't perform miracles, however nobody said that this has to be a forum for non confrontational views as you are entitled to yours as much as the next guy. You though appear to think that through each post I've read of yours that every Expansion / Franchise whatever you want to para phrase these organisations as are doomed to failure before they even start.

Knowing how hard it is to get one started and the amount of time, money and effort from everyone involved, the bottom line for each owner is to provide as competitive level as possible for the female soccer player.

Now I dont know what your involvement is in soccer, i can only imagine you don't understand anything about the game at all given your limited views on how things are run and the efforts of everyone involved.

The bottom line is for all of us involved in the WPSL / W League or at whatever level need people like you to make us realise that there are people still out there determined to view everything thats going on in a negative fashion and that makes us more determined to do a better job with our own organisations.

Apt choice of name by the way becuase thats exactly what you are bad for soccer. I have no need or desire to offer you any more insight to what we do here in our organisation other than be amused at your ramblings and have a good laugh to ourselves as to how more negative each time you post a reply.

good luck with whatever it is you do, wow

 

I said it in this thread earlier:

https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=297054

I don't have a problem with the expansion by the WPSL into Florida, because it is a huge state and by the history of the PDL, can support its own division.

But what may become an issue are the cities they are located in. Three are on top of each other in SoFla (Ft. Lauderdale, Miami and Palm Beach) and two in Orlando. In my opinion I would have rather seen teams starting in Orlando, Miami/Ft. Lauderdale, Ft. Meyers/Naples, and Tampa. And then maybe fill in with Jax.

I just can't see Tallahassee or Pensacola getting involved, because of the travel, until Alabama and Mississippi start to get involved.

We can't forget that with these five teams, there are also the W-League teams in Orlando and Cocoa. Though maybe I don't agree with the tone of the post, I do agree that this summer will be an up-hill battle for the 6 new competitive teams (in addition to the new version of the Krush). More so than just another first year team. They will battle themselves along with the strong youth programs in Fla that can still grab the quality fresham coming back for the summer that are young enough to to eligible for their U-19 club teams.

The teams that can get the fans in the corner, and that have the strongest management/organization/ownership backing, will be the most successful in the long run.

 

Reality is a tough place in which to reside. Maybe that is why Bad Soccer is so unhappy. Having 8 teams in one state is not a good idea, and in my opinion a lot of the posts bad soccer has written come from an intelligent business perspective - as opposed to the happy go lucky martyrdom which caused the WUSA to fail. The points may be made with a large dose of sarcasm, but if you can get past that, they are actually good points. To build on what El Gato just said - since the teams are in such close proximity - fans of women's soccer will not discriminate between W league and WPSL - they will just go to the game closest to home. So Florida has eight very small crowds and 8 struggling organizations instead of 3 or 4 good teams with large crowds (large crowds usually coincide with success and $$). It's fantastic that a lot of players get to play during the summer, but if you train at a mediocre level with mediocre players, you don't get much out of it and fans tend to find something better to watch. Please don't take offense to this - but if the national team was not in residency, not many of them would choose to play for teams without other national (or international) team players - or at least players from the top 10 colleges - because they need to train at a high level.

Women's soccer needs a few more business minded people who enjoy the game. And some of those who just "think it's great that girls play soccer - and we should give them every chance possible to do so" to take a step back.. to 1979. Girls/women aren't fighting to play anymore - they are now fighting to succeed and play at the highest level possible. A lot of the WPSL (and w league) teams ARE struggling and are full of mediocre talent - which doesnt attract crowds. Honestly, instead of everyone who can come up with $5000 starting their own team - maybe there should be some really good teams who could draw people from the entire region.

Which the central FL team with all of the "big names" will most likely do.

 

Out here in Nor Cal (a "state" separate and apart from So Cal*), we have five WPSL teams and no W-League teams.

Speaking of which, tryouts for the new Sonoma County Sol WPSL team will be February 20 (by invitation only @ Lucchesi field in Petaluma) and March 5 (open @ Santa Rosa H.S.). www.scfcsol.com

*Notwithstanding the fact that the WPSL Western Division includes the teams from both Nor Cal and So Cal.

 

What was your point? To plug the tryouts? You can't compare California to Florida. California might possibly be the best state for soccer in the US.

Captain Jack - if you knew the past history of soccer in Florida, you would be aware that the franchises there are very temporary from the bottom of the USL all the way up to MLS. Five new WPSL teams there in one season? I just don't give them all the best chances of surviving. The W-League teams are both back for a second season but that doesn't mean that they're out of the woods either by any means.

Also, where will the players come from to fill seven rosters? I don't see anyone in Florida being that good this year except for maybe the Strikers if they can bring over as many players from the Krush as possible.

Have a bright, shiny day!