Would you buy a hybrid/electric car if...

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Alan S, Mar 26, 2003.

  1. Alan S

    Alan S Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would you buy an hybrid/electric car if it.

    a) Cost twice as much for the same features as
    a internal combustion engine car.

    b) Cost 50% more.

    c) Cost 20% more.

    d) Cost the same

    e) Would never buy one.
     
  2. Alan S

    Alan S Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    No if. Our next car will probably be a hybrid.
     
  4. dawgpound2

    dawgpound2 Member

    Mar 3, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    Phillistines!

    I take public transportation, and do not own a car.
     
  5. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Why do you hate our freedoms?
     
  6. Richth76

    Richth76 New Member

    Jul 22, 1999
    Washington, D.C.
    I bought a diesel Jetta last year for the fuel economy and becuase the new TDI engine no longer has the diesel turbo lag.

    How do these new hybrids perform? I know some of the earliest were pretty weak. But if their is decent performance (they don't have to be a race car), and priced decently I would buy one. I believe the japanese, in their automotive marketing genious, will do both of theses things and keep american models down.
     
  7. ross from st paul

    ross from st paul New Member

    Sep 13, 2001
    gold river, CA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i take public transport, too. also own a car. i'd gladly buy a hybrid, but i'm told that the technology is such that a minnesota winter and a hybrid battery still don't mix well. anyone know if that's true? i'm completely ig-nunt when it comes to cars! :)
    if that's the case, i'm guessing this summer i'll be turning in the 1988 chevy nova for a used toyota echo (best MPG of any non-hybrid on the market, last i heard)!
     
  8. Kappa18

    Kappa18 New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Beitar Jerusalem FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Israel
    I would buy a Hybrid car.

    In Populated Areas, like here in Israel, it is kinda useful and quiet!!
    5pm in Central Tel Aviv is something Chaotic, but i am not sure in other places like the USA! The USA loves big cars! Like GM makes and Ford.....and i don't think a Hybrid car would match therer market!

    Only Urbanized people would buy it.

    I would wait till i am finally able to go 150 with a Hybrid, than we'll talk!!

    Plus im scared that i will get electricuted if i go on a puddle of water on a road!
     
  9. Richth76

    Richth76 New Member

    Jul 22, 1999
    Washington, D.C.
    Comedy!
     
  10. joseph pakovits

    joseph pakovits New Member

    Apr 29, 1999
    fly-over country
    As a good Amerian male, I'll buy anything if it appears in an ad next to a hot chick in a bikini.
     
  11. Michael K.

    Michael K. Member

    Mar 3, 1999
    There or Thereabouts
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My next car, too, will be a hybrid. Unless I get work in a restaurant somewhere - then I'll find a diesel and fuel it off used oil from the deep fat fryers, of course.

    That's if I have to get a car - given the chance to live and work in an area with good, dependable public transportation, I'll do that.

    For some people, in some regions, transit villages are the future.

    And it can't be soon enough.
     
  12. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Jeezus, the only way I'd buy one would be if it cost significantly less.

    My dream car is a 'Vette, not some wimpy-ass hydro-electric crap...
     
  13. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Cost significantly less at the dealer or over the life of the vehicle?
     
  14. Michael K.

    Michael K. Member

    Mar 3, 1999
    There or Thereabouts
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sure.
    Cause when the drivers of our nation are getting an average 13 mpg and gas gets up around $1.80 a gallon, we can just go whup the crap out of some other nation sitting on a load of decomposing dinosaurs, right?

    The oil is going to run out, no matter what.
    We have got to change.
     
  15. Smiley321

    Smiley321 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Concord, Ca
    You've stumbled on the really weak aspect of these cars. I would definitely stay away until the maintenance cost is known and not alot higher.

    Pure electric cars need the whole rack of batteries replaced every few years, and it's costly.

    Not only that, but they all have this vague peugot-like look to them and we must boycott such things.
     
  16. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    What Smiley said.

    Quite frankly, why would I pay more for something that's not as reliable as internal-combustion and that I'm not going to have as much fun driving as I will an internal-combustion?
     
  17. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    And when they develop a hydro-electric 'Vette that has the feel and power of a real 'Vette, and it's less expensive than a real 'Vette, I'll buy it.

    I'm just not going to purchase an inferior product.


    Alex
     
  18. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Hybrids tend to cost less over the life of the car in maintenance in fuel costs

    Pure electric cars are not germane to this discussion. These cars do not have a "whole rack of batteries" to replace.

    It is indeed hard to get excited about hybrid cars when the PTB in Detroit refuse to make any that don't look totally dorky.
     
  19. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Who says they're not as reliable? His argument was based on pure electric cars. This is an entirely different technology.
     
  20. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Because hybrid cars have been on the market for what, a year?? There could be some long-term problem with all of them that causes thousands of dollars worth of maintenance costs. When they've been on the market for 10 or 15 years, come talk to me.
     
  21. Michael K.

    Michael K. Member

    Mar 3, 1999
    There or Thereabouts
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What people - well, besides the intellectually feeble, and we can't discount them, apparently - are finally beginning to understand is that 'performance' does not SIMPLY mean 'goes real fast'. 'Performance' also means - or is going to have to mean - safe, economical, energy-conserving - as well as going fast. Of course, if you're the myopic type who only looks at 0-60 and expects a car to be an extension of your member, well what can I tell you then.
    The adolescent dinosaur is a funny thing.

    The thing is, if we put even a fraction of the money we're putting into this sick adventure into fast-track development of hybrids and fuel cells, we'd probably have alternative energy cars that did 'perform', possibly in time to avoid the next petrowar.
    And if the oil-connected US regime made even a token effort at levelling the gap between federal highway subsidies and public transit subsidies (fat chance!!!), more people, particularly in urban areas, might find it easier and more beneficial to take transit.

    And then those of you who really must, must drive might just find an open road once in a while.
     
  22. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Well, I'm a 19 year old male so "goes real fast" is a very important part of performance for me (altho acceleration and handling are just as important). Maybe I'll feel differently when I'm 50, but right now I want speed. Sorry.
     
  23. Roel

    Roel Member

    Jan 15, 2000
    Santa Cruz mountains
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Nah, we always want speed and power, at any age. Hybrids are good for this, since they still seem to have plenty of pop from internal combustion part of the engine. Most driving doesn't really involve anything more than cruising in your lane, and stopping and starting at red lights. So the hybridization really adds to efficiency without a loss of performance.

    I'm going to be loathe to use a pure electric, simply because the range isn't there, yet.
     
  24. zverskiy yobar

    zverskiy yobar BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 10, 2002
    a few things..
    DFB.. Electric cars have a higher torque in lower gears .The pure electric test model GM had out a few years ago (GM EV1) had some of the best 0-60 times out on the market.and That is with the much heavier weight from the battery.The notion of slow and sluggish electric vehicle is outdated.We will see sporty hybrids sooner then many think.OPel is currently testing get this... a DIESEL/ELECTRIC HYBRID SPORTS CAR it supposeldy is quit fast and is very high performance.Hybrids are the furture of the auto, and that future is much closer then people think.GM is actually a leader in this front and has been doing the most research through their pure electric EV1 and their european brands.

    Michael- You cant just dump vegatable grease into a diesel and expect it to run.You still have to distill it into a fuel.BUT diesel is quit easy to do.I own a GMC 1974 Diesel Pick up.This is my prime transpotation since I work in the AG business.Luckily Bio_diesel is readily availible in Northern Illinois, but I still have a small fuel plant behind one of my barns.I dont produce enough to keep myself driving without buying fuel.But its a great back up system if there is ever a fuel shortage, Right now I mainly use it for John Deere Diesel Back Up generator I have.
    also, My pick up has about 350k Miles on it.Since I am mechaniclly inclined I keep it in tip top shape... BUT since I started using Bio Diesel it runs even better.Since Bio Diesel has an even higher Viscosity then regular diesel.My truck will likely run as long as the body stays together.
     
  25. dawgpound2

    dawgpound2 Member

    Mar 3, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    One of the best posts ever on BigSoccer.
     

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