MLS officials are the worst on the planet. The retarded bald ref at saturday nights Burn/Revolution game in Dallas was the worst job of officiating I have ever seen. Ryan Suarez was red carded for an unintentional hand ball in the box which gave New england the lead for good. Benedict Baldie also blew several offsides calls and though I am Dallas biased he blew several foul calls against us. when is the horrible job of officiating going to end?? The worst part of the whole thing is this ref "Retardo Baldonio" was our league rep at the World Cup? what does that say about our sorry league?
Let me get this straight. You're saying that the referee that missed Olivares' forearm to Jay Heaps' face moments before he awarded the Burn a questionable penalty kick gave the Revs the match. And since when is the referee entirely to blame for blown offside calls? (And by the way, I've got the game on tape, and they WERE offside.)
I don't know. I kind of have mixed feelings about this. Sure I'm pissed that Dallas lost, and of course you can debate the call. But MLS refs being as ball-less as they are, I respect him for having the nerve to call it as he saw it. My biggest problem with our officials is that they don't have the guts to make the unpopular call, especially against the home team. Yes it sucks that we get to be the exception that proves the rule, but if he calls it the same way every game I can live with it. I personally think that more players should be carded and ejected if necessary for this childish dissent, for diving, and for "professional" fouls designed to stop plays with scoring potential. We could weed out that kind of pantywaist play in a hurry if our officials would just have the courage to call games fairly and most of all consistently.
Most people -- and that includes players, coaches, supporters, TV commentators, etc -- don't understand the Laws. Example #1 being that they don't even know what the fouls are called. If you don't know the name of a thing, how can you know the nature of it? For instance, there is no such foul as a "intentional hand ball": The proper name is deliberate handling. Second, there is no such foul as 'offsides', it is offside. I dare you to define either. It is no coincidence that those are the two fouls least understood by most people ... I agree with Jambon that MLS referees need to step on player indiscretions sooner and harder to prevent problems later in the game. The DC-Metros match from last Thursday is an example where the ref let too much go for too long ...
The referee called the foul on Suarez for deliberately handling the ball. If he calls the foul at all, the ref must have considered the act deliberate. Because this occurred in the area, a PK must be called. The red card was shown because the referee further adjudged that Suarez, by committing the foul, had taken away an obvious goal-scoring opportunity--and frankly, that fact was more obvious than whether the handling was deliberate. In other words, if the ref calls that foul in that situation, Suarez has to go.
Controversy, controversy, controversy. From the swamps of Jersey on Thursday to DC on Saturday, from Dallas on the goalline to LA deep into stoppage time. All in the heat of a playoff battle which seems to have taken everyone a bit by surprise. If anyone has the right to complain, it's probably the Quakes, as Ruiz was clearly offside. But even there blame needs to be distributed: it was Cannon's abhorrent clearance which directly led to the Galaxy counterattack. If Joe had just gotten a halfway decent boot on the ball, the game would have seen OT for sure. Come next Monday, no doubt the refs will be to blame for everyone's misfortunes then as well.
I'm sure this has been debated ad nauseum. but...two refs have to be better than one. Hell...MLS already has had their own rules... If we cna't get good refs...get two and they can reveiw and vote...wahtever. Two linesmen...heck, four linesmen! and two refs. One can't cut it. Not here.
Suarez deliberately handled the ball to prevent himself from possible injury, and would have blocked the shot whether or not he had used his hands. Since Suarez did not deliberately handle the ball in order to take away an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and did not increase his chances of blocking the shot by doing so -- there's no doubt the ball would have hit him no matter where his hands were -- awarding a PK but not a red card would have been the right call to make. Unfortunately, it seems referees too often to follow what they think is the letter of the law to a T without applying some common sense into their decision making as well.
My view of the Dallas vs Revs ref fiasco... I think the ball did hit Suarez's hand because it was a natural reaction and he was protecting his face...and it is up to the ref to award it as intentional or unintentional...ref decides its a penalty... Now, I have no problem with that. But if Suarez received a card (should have been just the penalty, maybe just a yellow card, NOT a RED...) for the handball, then I don't know what he was smoking! But, if Suarez got the red card because he said something totally unacceptable to the ref...he deserves the RED... Somehow, i think it was the first scenario...which does prove that refs around the world are all wankers!?!?!? (anybody think MLS is happy that the Revs can make the playoffs now???)
No can do, says this man-in-black. If the handling of the ball is *not* deliberate, in the ref's judgment, there's no pk at all, *and* no red card, because there's no foul at all. If the ref calls the foul, which he did, he has to send Suarez off. If ever there was an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, that was one. Come on.
If you're saying you're a Man-in-Black (ie ref)... ...aren't you proclaiming that you are a WANKER?!?!?
What about the missed call on the guy who elbowed Heaps in the face an then 5 seconds later he "dives as soon as he is in the box" an gets a PK now if the elbow is called not PK an Dallas would still be down by 2, try blaming your teams shitty finishing before the refs.
Let's all jump on the bandwagon and bash on the refs. Though I didn't see the whole game, I did see the replay at the end of it, and it sure as crap looked like a deliberate handball to me, but hey, that's just my unbiased, rational opinion.
I don't think you'll find too many Burn fans who'll deny it was a deliberate handball. But most of us think Suarez deliberately handled the ball to protect himself from being struck in the face, not to prevent a goal-scoring opportunity.
Great point, not very often (unless you are Aston Villa's keeper) does one mistake create a goal. It's usually a string of them.
Hellooo...we still need two refs....there aren't good enough ones to cover the field in MLS. They are in the way of play most of the time. Two refs. We had the shootout didnt' we? Why not do an obvious? compared to the shootout...this makes a lot of sense.
You know what this means. We need psychic refs. That's right, it's the wave of the future! No more grey area calls or arguing over "intent," something that half the courtrooms in this country can't get right anyway - the ref will know! And it will be good for the economy, too. Didn't Warwick's hotline go under? Isn't Cleo gone too! You know it wasn't the same psychic answering the phone every time. And those people need jobs now. I'm telling you. Psychic refs. Get ready. RS
I sent the link of the QuickTime movie to a collegiate-level referee I know, and he told me that Brian Hall absolutely made the right call. He said that it doesn't matter if Suarez was trying to prevent the ball from hitting his face, or not. Suarez deliberately placed his arms into the path of the ball on a clear goal-scoring opportunity. He said Hall had no choice but to award the PK and send Suarez off.
Suarez had his arms near his head in a defensive posture, and he was not reaching away from his body in an attempt to block the ball with his hands or arms. You don't have to be psychic to realize that he deliberately handled the ball in order to prevent it from hitting him in the face, and not to stop an obvious goal scoring opportunity. All you have to do is have your eyes open and use a little common sense.
Re: Re: Worthless Ref Gives New England Win You said he did. As in, *you* believe. paulocesar actually said "I think". Another key component of the Laws that everyone seems to forget (or much more likely are completely oblivious to) is that is "in the opinion of the referee", not anyone else.
Well, he could have moved his face and let it in. then he'd still be in the game. or take the ball in the face like a man. and still be in.
It is so sweet when someone speaks the obvious. Same can be said for Howard and Mathis. Control your actions and you stay in the game. Duh
In my town, the refs stop letting the players handle the ball to protect themselves at the age of 8. There's no rule in professional soccer that you're allowed to handle a ball because you think that it might hit your face. If that were really allowed, defenders would throw up their hands every time there were a shot near them "to protect themselves from injury". If you can say that the ball hit Suarez's hands because the shot surprised him and he didn't have time to get them out of the way, then there is no penalty. If he's diving in front of a shot and moves his hands in front of the ball and claims that he wasn't trying to prevent a goal, he doesn't have a leg to stand on. As for the 2 refs per game plan, weren't they going to try it a few years ago? I can't imagine these boards if they tried it. Just wait until one ref signals play on and the other calls a foul, or they call fouls in the opposite direction, or one ref awards a free kick and the other ref runs up and gives out a card...