Another telling and instructive example is cycling (and then think about football): https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/t...history-of-sport.2122071/page-3#post-42470008 Eric Batty was a clown, an anglo-german alliance clown. Who like Dearman pushed our players down (and had Germans at the very, very top) because of supposed "team edge" - the idea the team made players look better than they were. He had only sporadic inclusions for Argentina as well. "1972 was the second year of Ajax’s dominance of the European Cup but this still wasn’t enough to help Eric past his general distrust of Dutch players." https://beyondthelastman.com/2013/11/07/eric-battys-world-xis-the-seventies/ https://beyondthelastman.com/2014/03/10/eric-battys-world-xis-the-eighties-and-nineties/ "While he admired Dutch football in general, Eric was always fairly reserved in his praise of its practitioners. His 1989 team does contain five Dutchmen certainly, but commentary on them is fairly lukewarm." ("lukewarm": just like every time a *certain someone historian* can be bothered to include us, with lukewarm and negative writing indeed) Never a word by Batty about how German referees consistently derailed us (new discovery: the 1994 friendly vs Ireland) but of course Argentines or Italians on England was scandalous for mister Batty.
I quite remember you said his prime was arrived at in the first half 1960s. When there is seemingly no rating for him in Primera Division Rankings of Argentinian football thread, what can be referenced his peak was during that period ? I tend to agree he might not be competitive as a candidate in 1952 and 1953 as he hadn't won first caps yet. For second half 1950s, in 1958, he conceded a lot of goals in World Cup and he seems to lose first choice of goalkeeper to Rogelio Dominguez. In 1960s, I see him played only 20 games in the league in 1962 and 19 games in 1965 and his longevity are really a hinder. He also didn't make any caps for Argentina in these years. In 1964 is probably most convincing for him to reach the best year when he took a clean sheet in all 3 matches in the nation's cup in Brazil where Argentina played against top teams like Portugal, Brazil and England (although Brazil didn't send the best team but at least Pele and Julinho/Jairzinho were in the eleven. When consider his peak may be only 1963 and 1964, I'm really skeptical how come he is deserved to be the greatest South American keeper of all-time like many regarded him.
Since there were no ratings, appearences in El Gráfico covers are a good aproximation. In 1962 and 63, he got many of these
Just see now how 'the alliance' shamelessly put five German amateurs in the best XI of 1954 (three from Hungary). https://footballarguments.wordpress.com/2024/08/19/team-of-the-world-cup-1954/ Will the pseudo-professors do that with us for 1974, 1978, 1988? Of course not! Not even 1988 will have five in the tournament XI (Sofascore had six) You have a clear handicap at the time itself, see Batty (0 in 1974!), and then another chop and bashing down decades later. That is what the poseurs do. Another downgrade for most players, many years later: https://football-ratings.blogspot.com/2024/08/europes-greatest-footballers-1970-74.html?m=1 (these type of things makes Cruijff look as the real 'one-man army', not Maradona - be consistent then!) Others benefit. Others will see a favorable revision. In the meantime, the Premier League juggernaut is destroying our sports and football. Sucking it completely empty. I hate that. The Athletic and their continous size-of-fanbase driven hitjobs. Them picking out certain countries to serve as the bad guys and laughing stock. All those others sports, and the awards/ratings, where it is just about 'crossing the line first' tell a story.
Pretty much agree in general with your list. I think it's a good job. I would just like to know if you had considered including Castilho and Grosics behind Beara in the 1952 list and Ramallets somewhere in 1959 (agreeing that Yashin was #1).
The early 1950s is the period that is most subjective as none of any rating (Ballon Dor wasnt established yet). I just base on defining peak period of goalkeeper and identify the season with impressive goal conceding stats.
In relation to Castilho, I can include a couple of information that refer to his good form in that year.
After improvement of my 9x100 positional ranking, I immersed myself in continuing expansion of positional ranking list for each region. To make it unique from other of my lists, some continental or regional rankings are based on ethnicity rather than the nations they played for. I also removed positional ranking of Brazil, Argentina, Rest of the Latin Americas and only refer to all-inclusive Latin American list as well as merger of Italy, France and Iberia into Latin Europe list. The rankings that are below 9x100 list is in initial stage of gathering all qualified players and not elaborated for accuracy of rankings yet. Latin Americas (Ethnicity) World Football Historic Center: Americas Football Hall of Fame (xtrahistory.blogspot.com) British Isles International Legendary Museum: The United Kingdom of British Isles (xtralegend.blogspot.com) Latin Europe (Ethnicity) International Legendary Museum: Latin Europe (xtralegend.blogspot.com) Eastern Europe (Ethnicity) International Legendary Museum: Eastern Europe (xtralegend.blogspot.com) Scandinavia International Legendary Museum: Sweden National Team (xtralegend.blogspot.com) Africa (Ethnicity) World Football Historic Center: African Football Hall of Fame (xtrahistory.blogspot.com) Caribbean (Ethnicity) International Legendary Museum: Northern Americas & Caribbean (xtralegend.blogspot.com)
The Scandinavia link leads only to Swedish players, do you have another link that also includes the rest of the Scandinavian players?
Please refer to this link instead International Legendary Museum: Scandinavia Union (xtralegend.blogspot.com)
I'm developing the list that will include local players from Germany, German-Austria and German-Switzerland. Some Austrian players who had Eastern European origin such as Josef Bican, Herbert Prohaska, Ernest Ocwirk will appear in EE list instead.