World Cup stars on jerseys

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Demiurge, Feb 23, 2004.

  1. Demiurge

    Demiurge New Member

    Jun 21, 2002
    During the 2003 Women's World Cup, I noticed that the Brazilian Women's National Team wore five stars on their jerseys, presumably in honor of the five World Cups won by the Brazilian Men's National Team. I also noticed that the US Women's National Team wore no stars, despite having won two World Cups themselves.

    I realize that these matters are decided by the FAs of the respective countries, and while I really don't want Sepp Blatter to weigh in on this, does anyone have any more information regarding how this tradition started, and why different teams follow it (or don't)?

    Thanks,
    -Eric
     
  2. Otaku

    Otaku Member+

    Dec 9, 2003
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Actually I think that the US womens jerseys did have two stars on the sleeves. As to how the tradition of putting stars for championships got started I have no idea, I have wondered that myself.
     
  3. Demiurge

    Demiurge New Member

    Jun 21, 2002
    Okay, now I see the stars on the US WMT unis; thanks.

    I'm still curious about the Brazilian WMT sporting stars "earned" by the Brazilian MNT; presumably, the US MNT unis won't feature stars signifying World Cups won by the US WMT. Now that the German WMT has won a World Cup, will they wear one star or four?
     
  4. kwik1980

    kwik1980 New Member

    May 27, 2003
    Norwich, NY
    It probably depends on the FA, as in every case, the men's and women's teams are run by the same orginization, and the argument can be made that the Brazilian FA has won 5 championships, not simply the Brazilian men's team.
     
  5. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The interesting thing is that the German women's gear had three stars on it for the three World Cups that the German men have won. Now what do they do. :p

    The French Women also had a star on their kits.
     
  6. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Norway - left sleeve
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    France - over the heart
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  7. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Brazil - integrated into the federation logo - over the heart
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    Germany - over the heart (in their flag's colors!)
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  8. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Argentina - no stars on either home/away jerseys or warmup shirts
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    United States - right sleeve
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  9. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    England - no stars
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    (photo by Scott Bales/YCJ)
     
  10. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Uruguay uses 4, 2 for the World Cups they won and 2 for the Olympic golds they won.


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  11. Otaku

    Otaku Member+

    Dec 9, 2003
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    You can put stars for olympic gold medals?
     
  12. Otaku

    Otaku Member+

    Dec 9, 2003
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    The new England kit has a star. So now the only ones left with out stars is Argentina. Wonder if they will eventuallu give in and put them on.
     
  13. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Uruguay did.
     
  14. Demiurge

    Demiurge New Member

    Jun 21, 2002
    According to cjma77 over at https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94000, the Germans won't reveal their new kits for Euro 2004 until April. I think it would be supremely cool if the both the German MNT and WNT started wearing three stars on the chest and one star on the sleeve.

    As far as I am aware, the US and Norwegian MNT have so far refrained from wearing stars in honor of winning the Women's World Cup. Presumably, part of the reason for this has been to avoid confusion with stars "earned" by the MNT. Were the Deutscher Fußball Bund to take advantage of this opportunity to set a precedent honoring both their MNT and WNT, perhaps other FAs would follow suit.
     
  15. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Those two stars came at a time where there were no Football World Cups. The olympic were the only way to claim a world Championships. I think it was in the 1920's.
     
  16. Argentine Futbol

    Argentine Futbol Red Card

    Feb 21, 2003
    Old Greenwich, CT
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I think the Magic number is three Stars in order to put it on the national Jersey. The arrogant French were the first to pump up the star on there Jersey.. I wonder why England did the same?
     
  17. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    - But do the new England women's jerseys have a star?

    - Brazil and Uruguay stars are integrated as part of the Federation logo. Likewise the French and German stars are placed above the federation logo making it "easy" to put on both the men's and women's jerseys.

    - I agree, it'll be interesting to see what the new German men and women's jersey's look like.
     
  18. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I think your right. Check this site out it has many of the federation logos and how they have changed over the years.

    http://footballmundial.tripod.com/otras_copas/insignias.htm
     
  19. Otaku

    Otaku Member+

    Dec 9, 2003
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I heard people were writting to the FA about it, and they put it on there.
     
  20. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I knew I was missing something.

    Italy - no stars
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    (photo by Scott Bales/YCJ)

    I have to say that I'm astonished at all the various teams we've shot the last couple of years.
     
  21. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I think the answer is yes.

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  22. Otaku

    Otaku Member+

    Dec 9, 2003
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    The question is still out on who made up the tradition
     
  23. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    Italy's men wear their stars on their sleeve. BTW, I wonder why the men wear Puma and the women wear Kappa kits. How old is your photo?


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