World Cup Group Draw: Portugal

Discussion in 'Portugal: National Teams' started by Joelzinho, Dec 1, 2009.

  1. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Well its fast approaching. Friday is the day where the seeded teams are announced and the pots are established.

    Here is a funny article from goal.com to lighten the mood.

    "Top 10 Things To Expect From World Cup Draw"

    8) The Greek delegation get their dinner early and then defend it for the rest of the night.

    http://goal.com/en-us/news/114/mexico/2009/12/01/1659510/top-10-things-to-expect-from-world-cup-draw

    I can see us getting a pretty difficult group. Similar to the one in the last world cup that included Italy, Ghana, Czech Repbublic and USA.
     
  2. Benfica4Life

    Benfica4Life Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Turns out Portugal is in the 4th pot/seeding.



    Portugal evita França no sorteio
    AS DUAS SELEÇÕES ESTÃO NO POTE 4




    Foram revelados os potes que agrupam as seleções para o sorteio do Mundial'2010 e Portugal encontra-se no Pote 4, fora do grupo dos cabeças-de-série. Desta forma, evita a França, Eslovénia, Suíça, Grécia, Sérvia, Dinamarca e Eslováquia. Como habitualmente, o grupo é sorteado com uma seleção de cada pote.

    Pote 1

    África do Sul
    Alemanha
    Brasil
    Itália
    Espanha
    Inglaterra
    Holanda
    Argentina

    Pote 2

    Japão
    Coreia do Sul
    Coreia do Norte
    Austrália
    Nova Zelândia
    Estados Unidos
    México
    Honduras

    Pote 3

    Costa do Marfim
    Gana
    Camarões
    Nigéria
    Argélia
    Paraguai
    Chile
    Uruguai

    Pote 4

    França
    PORTUGAL
    Eslovénia
    Suíça
    Grécia
    Dinamarca
    Eslováquia
    Sérvia
     
  3. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    It's not a seeding the only seeds are pot 1 the rest are geographic pots. IMO Netherlands and England have no business being seeds but they had a good qualifying campaign to make up for their abysmal last 2 World Cups :rolleyes: I hope we go into one of their groups and put them to the sword but then again we don't have a manager to have us play the way we did vs them the way we used to. Just like what happened vs Brazil after 20 years of bragging rights.

    I like that Europe is last this time that way the draw makes it more exciting for us.
     
  4. portugal_9

    portugal_9 Member

    May 3, 2005
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Based on these pots/seeding, I feel that our:

    Best Scenario:

    South Africa
    Nova Zelandia
    Argelia
    Portugal

    Worst Scenario:

    Brasil
    United States
    Ivory Coast
    Portugal

    Although that worst case scenario, could also be the best thing for us, we always play better in tougher groups and under pressure, just think back Euro 2000 when our group was:

    Portugal
    England
    Germany
    Romania

    And we came out on top with 3 wins from 3 games (including a 3-0 win with our bench team)

    So it all depends on how you look at it.
     
  5. Benfica4Life

    Benfica4Life Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Were screwed in the 1st pot. Only one team out of 8 in the 1st pot isnt world class. And even then South Africa is the home/hosting nation so you know they'll play their hearts out and still wont be easy at all.
     
  6. Benfica4Life

    Benfica4Life Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I think Spain would be worse than Brazil. Brazil being 2nd worst team we could get. I pray we avoid both, not just in the group, but in the whole tournament.
     
  7. Chess_Panther

    Chess_Panther Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Porto, Portugal
    I think Mexico is more of a menace than the US.
     
  8. FigoTX

    FigoTX Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    H-town, TX
    I would agree with that. The US-Portugal game was very tough for me at that time, but let's be honest: Portugal came out as they used to come out against "inferior" teams and got caught with their pants down.

    I would say Mexico would be tougher to beat than the US.
     
  9. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Group A

    South Africa
    Japan
    Chile
    Slovenia

    Group B

    Argentina
    USA
    Nigeria
    Denmark

    Group C

    England
    Australia
    Cameroon
    Switzerland

    Group D

    Brazil
    Honduras
    Ivory Coast
    Greece

    Group E

    Spain
    Mexico
    Paraguay
    Serbia

    Group F

    Italy
    North Korea
    Portugal
    Uruguay

    Group G

    Germany
    New Zealand
    Ghana
    Slovakia

    Group H

    Netherlands
    South Korea
    France
    Algeria
     
  10. Chess_Panther

    Chess_Panther Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Porto, Portugal
    What you guys think about Paraguay?
     
  11. FigoTX

    FigoTX Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    H-town, TX
    I'd rather play Uruguay than Paraguay. Paraguay has been consistently strong and currently I would put them under Brasil as probably the 2nd strongest team in South America. That's not to say that the Argentina team that shows up won't be strong, since they're a good tournament country.
     
  12. portugal_9

    portugal_9 Member

    May 3, 2005
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I put Spain and Brasil as the top 2 as well, however I feel that Brazil is still Brazil, and after the 6-2 beatdown they gave us last time was no fluke!

    Spain on the other hand is a great team, but overrated!

    And after all the ball is round and could roll either way, on any given day any team can loose.

    Either way come Brasil or Spain to win the cup we will have to beat the best teams.
     
  13. dipluso

    dipluso Member+

    Jul 19, 2005
    CT
    Thanks for sharing; enjoyed it. I also liked:

    9) Suspended Argentina coach Diego Maradona gatecrashes the ceremony and starts blowing a…Vuvuzela.
     
  14. Chess_Panther

    Chess_Panther Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Porto, Portugal
    I agree. Ivory Coast is a threat from that pot too.
     
  15. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    obviously its impossible to predict exactly but ill explain now why I think some of these match ups may occur

    Portugal's group.

    I have a strong feeling it will be something like Italy, Portugal, North Korea, and Uruguay

    North korea vs italy and Portugal for rematches of the famous 1966 WC matches (N.Korea 1-0 Italy and Portugal 5-3 N.Korea).

    Italy-Portugal, why? weve never been drawn against them in a tournament so this may be the time. and Carlos Querioz will have a chance to get revenge for his 1994 losses against Italy which kept us out of WC qualification that season.

    Uruguay... cant think of any reason but they are a historic side obviously, south american, and can use cynical tactics like Portugal and Italy can sometimes use so it would be a battle between these 3 teams on the pitch.

    as for other matchups

    - I gave south africa a fairly easy group (compared to the others) because lets face it, Hosts (especially weaker hosts) tend to get favorable group draws... whether its by coincidence or not.

    Argentina and Nigeria will likely be in the same group. they always seem to meet, especially in youth tournaments thats why i wouldnt be surprised if it happens.

    England-Australia... anglo-saxon kind of rivalry

    Brazil usually gets an easy group so they will have a easier group compared to others imo. I have a feeling greece will get them and get demolished.

    spain-mexico-paraguay-serbia.. meh no reason i guess 3 spanish speaking countries in one group is interesting so I could see it hapening

    Germany will get a piss easy group like usual

    Netherlands-France... france will get a tough group I feel maybe as karma for the way they qualified to the Wc... France will be drawn against algeria and face off against their former colony just like Portugal v Angola in 2006.
     
  16. nmendes

    nmendes New Member

    Apr 18, 2008
    Club:
    FC Porto
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    If I'm not mistaken, you can't be drawn two teams from the same confederation (unless it's Europe), so we can't get both Argelia and SA.

    Agreed, they look like a different team with Aguirre.

    Very dangerous. I think one of the top two teams in that pot along with Ivory Coast.
     
  17. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    So guys, being the football nut that I am, I just did a mock draw. This is how the balls rolled, or my case, the folded up pieces of paper, lol:

    Group A
    South Africa
    North Korea
    Paraguay
    France

    Group B
    Spain
    South Korea
    Chile
    Slovenia

    Group C
    Italy
    Japan
    Ivory Coast
    Serbia

    Group D
    Argentina
    Australia
    Nigeria
    Denmark

    Group E
    England
    USA
    Ghana
    Portugal

    Group F
    Germany
    New Zealand
    Uruguay
    Greece

    Group G
    Brasil
    Mexico
    Algeria
    Switzerland

    Group H
    Holland
    Honduras
    Cameroon
    Slovakia

    Should be interesting to see what the actual draw will produce, hopefully we get an easier group than what i got. Not sure if everyone knows, the draw will be televised on tv on ESPN 2 from 12pm - 3pm EST
     
  18. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Shit me that would be a tough group for us...
     
  19. nbstriker8

    nbstriker8 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 10, 2008
    new beige
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do not want this group at all. USA and Portugal are my two teams, so I want them not to meet until the final :cool:
     
  20. Portugeezer!

    Portugeezer! Member

    Jun 8, 2005
    Raynham, MA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Wouldnt want that group either as it's tough, but at the same time, knowing that we kind of underestimate the smaller teams, we might be better off. I have no problem going against the States again, I want revenge for 2002.
     
  21. portugal_9

    portugal_9 Member

    May 3, 2005
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I am so anxious for this draw that I just had a draw "papers out of a hat" to see possible groups, here are my results:

    GROUP A:
    South Africa
    South Korea
    Cameroon
    Denmark

    GROUP B:
    Germany
    N. Korea
    Paraguay
    France

    GROUP C:
    England
    Honduras
    Ivory Coast
    Switzerland

    GROUP D:
    Italy
    New Zealand
    Uruguai
    Portugal

    GROUP E:
    Netherlands
    Japan
    Ghana
    Slovakia

    GROUP F:
    Brasil
    Mexico
    Algeria
    Greece

    GROUP G:
    Spain
    U.S.A.
    Chile
    Slovenia

    GROUP H:
    Argentina
    Australia
    Nigeria
    Serbia

    Our group with Italy, New Zealand and Uruguai, is certainly accessible (only if it came out this way, not too easy not too hard).

    Forca Portugal!
     
  22. portugal_9

    portugal_9 Member

    May 3, 2005
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Funny how you have this strong feeling about Portugal being paired with Italy and Uruguai, I just had a mock draft with papers out of a hat and came out with:

    ITALY
    NEW ZEALAND
    URUGUAI
    PORTUGAL

    3/4 only difference being New Zealand for North Korea (both 2 word countries with 1st name starting with same letter "N"!

    Could this mean something...we'll find out tommorrow!
     
  23. Fc_Porto

    Fc_Porto Member

    Oct 26, 2009
    Club:
    FC Porto
    I think ters a flaw in the first group because you cant have 2 african teams in one group? I dont know anyways it doesnt matter lol. I wouldnt mind that group.

    Did you actually do you're draw the official way where u draw a team and then you draw a group letter. Must have took a while. Ill make my own too because im bored. lets see which of us get it the closest
     
  24. Fc_Porto

    Fc_Porto Member

    Oct 26, 2009
    Club:
    FC Porto
    A

    South Africa
    USA
    Chile
    Slovenia

    B

    Germany
    New Zealand
    Uruguay
    Greece

    C

    Spain
    Mexico
    Cameroon
    France

    D

    England
    North Korea
    Paraguay
    Swiss

    E

    Italy
    Honduras
    Algeria
    Serbia

    F

    Netherlands
    Japan
    Nigeria
    Portugal

    G

    Brazil
    South Korea
    Ghana
    Slovakia


    H

    Argentina
    Australia
    Ivory Coast
    Denmark

    Done
     
  25. dipluso

    dipluso Member+

    Jul 19, 2005
    CT

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