World Cup 2026 North America

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by goldclover, Jun 4, 2026.

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What national team is your pick to win it all?

  1. Austria

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  2. United States

    1 vote(s)
    4.3%
  3. Mexico

    1 vote(s)
    4.3%
  4. Germany

    1 vote(s)
    4.3%
  5. Japan

    2 vote(s)
    8.7%
  6. France

    7 vote(s)
    30.4%
  7. Portugal

    1 vote(s)
    4.3%
  8. Spain

    4 vote(s)
    17.4%
  9. Brazil

    1 vote(s)
    4.3%
  10. England

    1 vote(s)
    4.3%
  11. Argentina

    4 vote(s)
    17.4%
  12. Netherlands

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  13. Norway

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  14. Belgium

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  15. Turkey

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  16. Senegal

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  17. Uruguay

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  18. Morocco

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  19. Ivory Coast

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  20. The rest of the field.

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  1. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I know I’ve heard it all a millions times but like the article I only ever hear snippets of how things fail. I’m genuinely curious to know what the long term ripple effects are for the cities that do big things. Not everything is always counted in dollars and cents.
     
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  2. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not really questioning the strict veracity of story. More about the motives/intent/slant of the NYT in general.
    Or am I the one with TDS ( Times Derangement Syndrome)?
    Better luck in remainder of your flight.
     
  3. Martininho

    Martininho Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's entirely possible that I was mistaken in the exact details of what Bill Archer had posted. For instance, it's possible that I may have misremembered "setting aside" a traffic lane as "constructing".

    So, in Mr. Archer's defense, please don't attribute my faulty memory as misrepresentations by him at the time (pretty sure the FIFA negotiations weren't public domain in real time).

    In my defense, this was an effort to recall Archer's reports from over a decade ago, and without the benefit of his contemporaneous blogs on Bigsoccer (I tried to find them before my previous posts, they're long gone).
     
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  4. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Of course!

    Like many here, I have interacted with Bill Archer for quite a while, but not for many years.
    He is pretty cranky, but he does his research.
     
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  5. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #80 xtomx, Jun 10, 2026
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2026
    So, the FIFA "Peace Prize" did not happen.
    FIFA have not rented offices in Trump Tower.
    The quotes from the FIFA President did not happen.

    So "TDS" means discussing observable and publicly known facts, but perhaps in a manner that is to the liking of a certain person and his "followers."

    Got it.


    Here is a report of the office space from Trump loving CBS News.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fifa-office-in-trump-tower/

    Still "TDS"?

    How about NewsMax

    https://www.newsmax.com/us/fifa-trump-tower/2025/07/08/id/1218029/

    They certainly must be reliable for you and do not have "TDS", right?
     
  6. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Obviously there was a lease, a FIFA Peace Prize and suckup comments by FIFA. My concern is lack of objectivity by individuals and by media.
    Your posting is confusing me (more than usual). The office space article by CBS, an acknowledged left-leaning news source, was relatively positive and supplied a somewhat different point of view but, more importantly, more facts. Why did you include it?
    Far too often, the underlying message is “ don’t confuse me with facts, my mind is made up!”
    Your mention of Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize is almost hilarious because his award and Trump’s FIFA one were both solely political in nature and not based upon anything they did.
     
  7. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    A Letter from Gregg to Sebastian.
     
  8. xtomx

    xtomx Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire

    Either you know why I included the other links and are being disingenuous or you are easily confused.
    You claimed the article was from the NYT so, regardless of the facts stated, the article is biased and "TDS." I gave other examples to please you, including from a very pro-Trump site (talk about "TDS" They are deranged in their support) and the newest pro-Trump Network.

    It is a clear conflict of interest for the President to financially benefit from official duties and this clearly qualifies as such.

    I did not "mention" the Nobel Prize. While I was not in favor of President Obama being awarded the Nobel "just" for winning the election (although I do not think it was overtly political, but in recognition of his achievement of being the first black president and the advancement in American race relations that seemed to reflect, sadly the racists are still with us and more emboldened than in 2008), there is NO comparison between that at the completely artificial FIFA Peace Prize. To even begin to compare the two is deranged.

    Now, we ARE moving away from the World Cup and into other areas, so I will not comment further.
     
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  9. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your response, in the wrong location, is a prime example illustrating my concerns. If there was any financial benefit to
    Trump, it was only a relatively small amount and a pittance to him. Yet, some people want to make a big deal about it and ignore the vast sums collected by the Biden family and the even vaster sums collected by Pelosi and members of ( both parties) in Congress.
    Michelle Obama has made numerous disparaging and racist remarks over many years. Barack has never contradicted her
    views (to my knowledge) and was not noted for actually improving relations between the races.
    Many people , including me, dislike/ detest some of Trump’s personal traits but that does not justify TDS.
     
  10. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Excuse you?
     
  11. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry-all done with this.
     
  12. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    #87 bunge, Jun 10, 2026
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2026
    When has she ever said anything racist? It's not impossible but it would still be all over Fox News if she had.
     
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  13. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    You are a spineless racist.
     
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  14. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You apparently missed the memo. Radical left no longer using that slur.
     
  15. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    You're a dishonest racist?
     
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  16. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guess your comment means you do not consider “racist” to be a slur. OK, it’s your life.
     
  17. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    You were the one who introduced it to the conversation.
     
  18. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    RACIST Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster https://share.google/eb1xjfwh8GBETQVwm

    Post one example, full quote, with time and place, of Michelle Obama saying something racist. And no, you don't get to throw that rhetorical grenade and then turn and run away with "Sorry-done with this".

    I am not enamored with MO, but I know a number of people, including my wife, who knew her before her husband ran for the Senate through today. Now, as I say to my students on the regular, every word in the dictionary has more than one definition. I don't doubt that someone can come up with "a" definition of "racist" that they could put on MO, or anyone else for that matter, but using the rational definition from Merriam-Webster, show us a quote of MO being racist.
     
  19. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You do not get to set the rules or dictate definitions.
    Still done with this.
     
  20. plezercruz

    plezercruz Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Here we go guys!!

    Pete (is pinned to his desk but already informed his boss that one screen will be showing soccer for the next week before his vacation)
     
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  21. Martininho

    Martininho Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Once again reminded of the analogy of "Why you shouldn't play chess with a pigeon".
     
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  22. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I gave a respected for centuries, standard issue source of definition. I did not dictate a definition, I provided an example of a reasonable definition. You, on the other hand, refuse or are not comfortable providing a definition of "racist" for your claim and/or provide an example from which you made your, from lack of support, baseless claim.

    If you believe something enough to post it you might want to back it up in some form or fashion involving critical thinking and then the illustration of such.
     
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  23. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Because he’s afraid he’ll fit the definition.
     
  24. overlap_old_coach

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    May 2, 2022

    Exciting day for young Brian!
     
  25. schroncar

    schroncar Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 2, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    playing chess with a pigeon- good one, I like that.
    Got any studies to prove that?
    Lighten up guys. World Cup starting today and Milicz posting says Lewy decision soon.
     

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