World Cup 2026 expectations poll

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by xbhaskarx, Jun 8, 2026.

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How far will the USMNT advance at the 2026 World Cup?

Poll closed Jun 18, 2026.
  1. Champions

    3 vote(s)
    4.2%
  2. 2nd place

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. 3rd place

    1 vote(s)
    1.4%
  4. Semifinals

    2 vote(s)
    2.8%
  5. Quarterfinals

    16 vote(s)
    22.5%
  6. Final 16

    35 vote(s)
    49.3%
  7. Final 32 as group winners

    1 vote(s)
    1.4%
  8. Final 32

    11 vote(s)
    15.5%
  9. Grouped

    2 vote(s)
    2.8%
  1. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    Because AI.
     
  2. dlokteff

    dlokteff Member+

    Jan 22, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    They aren't. It's a simulation (100,000).

    We win the group 31% of the time.

    Distribution of Points when we win.
    3 - 0.03%
    4 - 0.97%
    5 - 9.60%
    6 - 20.56%
    7 - 43.07%
    9 - 25.77%

    Thus we achieve both 6+ points and win the group 28% of the time.
     
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  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Idk ask google dot com they're a multi trillion dollar company and AI is gonna take all our jobs
     
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  4. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That’s really surprising bc you’d think the two events would correlate—I.e., scenarios where we get >5 points would be almost all group winning scenarios.

    So assuming this is right (and who am I to argue with numbers?) what gives? One possibility is that the stats gods think that given the evenness of the group, teh group winning total is likely to be five.

    Or maybe I’m thinking about this the wrong way. It’s more like this: If we exceed five points, then we have a good chance to win the group. But the chance that we get greater than five points is still only about 40%, which means that both together are inevitably lower because to% of the 5+ point scenarios have us not winning the group (maybe behind Turkey who’d get 7/9 or 6 and win on GD).

    I guess another way to look at this is that the odds of us winning the group and not exceeding 5 points is only 3%.
     
  5. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    First up I'm glad we're not just talking rounds, I don't like that approach to expectations because there's too much either randomness or factors outside our control.

    Second, I think any rating system is going to underrate us a bit (PELE has us at 24) because we shat the bed in the Copa America and Nations League. I certainly can't call it unfair or inaccurate, but I don't think the team that lost to Panama twice is representative of who we are now. I usually look at all of these and think 'we could take most of the 5 or so teams ranked ahead of us,' including with this one (where we are behind, for example, Scotland).

    So all that said, what are my expectations? I think we can and should break our points record for a group stage, so more than 5. I think I'd probably be good with 6, depending on how we get there, but I'm hoping for 7-9. At that point total, we should get a favorable match in the R32, where I would expect us to outplay that opponent (and hopefully advance). Beyond that, there's a lot of luck of the draw involved or a lucky bounce here and there.

    And I expect us to do it with some style, which we've shown flashes of in friendlies against eg Paraguay, Uruguay, and Senegal. We only scored 3 goals in 4 games in 22, one of which was a lucky bounce in garbage time. I expect better this time around, hopefully at least double that (since I don't expect our defense to be lock-down).

    At the end of the day, the US's goal in this tournament is the same as it ever was: win hearts and minds. I'm getting more optimistic we can do that as it approaches. I think some guys are going to come out of this as heroes.
     
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  6. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I feel like there should be a panel like in the NCAA's where unbiased (is there such a thing) people rate the teams. They can use all of the PELE, FIFA and others as guides but also go through each team game by game. I mean if a team was playing a pure B team, if a team was at home but say Mexico had 80% of the crowd, a new coach came in and the turnaround was immediate etc then relying on results from a few years ago to rate a team may not impact how they play right now. I wonder if there's a way to look at betting to determine what people with money on the line think.
     
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  7. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, how much can you trust anything else in that AI simulation when they've given the top chance of QF opponent to a team that isn't in the World Cup?
     
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  8. BTFOOM

    BTFOOM Member+

    Apr 5, 2004
    MD, USA
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Just curious, how did AI come up with the following:

    Quarterfinal Potential Opponents
    • Italy (Group C Winner): Elo ~1945, ~35% chance
    Last I checked, Italy is staying home this time around.
     
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  9. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024
    AI is 99.9% A and 0.1% I on a good day.
    In order for Artificial Intelligence to be any good at anything you first have to have a good measure of intelligence which seems to extremely lacking in all current AI systems. I do not trust AI as far as I could throw the oversized buildings that house the data centers.

    But we could meet Italy in a quarterfinal in 2030 or 2034 after we underperform at this WC.
    But I do wonder if even getting grouped is truly underperforming as our team is the soccer equivalent of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and Mr. Hyde seems to be the dominate personality.
     
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  10. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    It's just a text generator generating text.
     
  11. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    QF is the goal and a celebration if we make it. Round of 16 will be a "meh, why can't we get over this hump"
     
  12. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No idea. They have the talent to go to the quarterfinals or could go out in the Round of 32 with their defense. With an expanded field, depth will be important with the number of games. We appear to have more depth.
     
  13. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m going to go ahead and predict semifinal. Why not.
     
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  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well this comment is already looking good, 7-9 points in the group stage seems very doable right now.
    Credit to you for going out on a limb with this on Tuesday. I kind of wish I had set the poll to expire before the first game. After quite possibly the best competitive USMNT game ever, votes over the next few days are going to be more skewed towards the top options, obviously...

    Italy can still win Group C if Gianni Infantino has the courage
     
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  15. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    after about the best opening match we could hope for...no change.
     
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  16. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Too early for a victory lap on that front since only one game but a promising start.

    But the biggest thing I thought prior to the game is the narrative around the team was overly negative and in general the vibe has been overly down on our chances.

    Part of that is I very much rate Pochettino as a coach but also this is the first time in a long time we’ve been mostly healthy. This group always looks much better when it’s our full first choice group and looks far worse when it isn’t because we don’t have depth.

    It’s also the case that basically the whole starting lineup minus Ream and Freese plays for Champions League or Champions League aspiring team (or Europa League when it comes to Palace): Paraguay isn’t a bad team but they aren’t at that level lineup wise.

    I’ll add that I think the homefield vibes have also been underrated because of how FIFA has treated the tournament. The crowd is just at an entirely different level compared to our typical home games.

    But the real test for this team will be the round of 16 where we play an Argentina or Belgium.
     
  17. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After seeing Irankunda and Touré yesterday, my prediction is that Ream will go to the bench and Miles Robinson will start in his place. We absolutely need as much speed at the back as we can get to try to contain those guys.
     
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  18. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't trusty almost as fast and either left footed or so two-footed it doesn't matter? You may be right though as Trusty hasn't seemed valued with minutes in the pre tournament warmups. Could be he's Ream's backup though and didn't play because Ream was healthy while McKenzie and Miles did because Richard's was injured. I'll trust the staff on this as they have to have watched a ton of Socceroo footage and if they think Ream can handle it and scheme around possible speed match-up problems then I'm good. It's always easy to Monday morning quarterback but if Germany didn't expose him perhaps the Aussie's won't either.
     
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  19. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know how close Trusty is to MRob in speed, but Trusty isn't a slouch for sure. However, Miles seems to have the inside track to being the top backup CB to see minutes for Poch, which is why I think it'll be him in for Ream. But who knows what Poch will do. He may feel he can work something out to keep the runouts that I'm afraid of in check.
     
  20. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1 goal to match the group stage output from 2002, 2 goals for 1930...

    Boy 2022 really doesn't look impressive when from a goal scoring perspective when you put it like this, especially since the subsequent knockout round goal was a complete fluke.


    6 Goals
    • 1930 World Cup: 6 goals (3 vs. Belgium, 3 vs. Paraguay).
    5 Goals
    • 2002 World Cup: 5 goals (3 vs. Portugal, 1 vs. South Korea, 1 vs. Poland).
    4 Goals
    • 1950 World Cup: 4 goals (1 vs. Spain, 1 vs. England, 2 vs. Chile).
    • 2010 World Cup: 4 goals (1 vs. England, 2 vs. Slovenia, 1 vs. Algeria).
    • 2014 World Cup: 4 goals (2 vs. Ghana, 2 vs. Portugal, 0 vs. Germany).
    • 2026 World Cup: 4 goals (4 vs. Paraguay).
    3 Goals
    • 1994 World Cup: 3 goals (1 vs. Switzerland, 2 vs. Colombia).
    2 Goals
    • 1990 World Cup: 2 goals (1 vs. Czechoslovakia, 1 vs. Austria).
    • 2006 World Cup: 2 goals (1 vs. Italy, 1 vs. Ghana).
    • 2022 World Cup: 2 goals (1 vs. Wales, 0 vs. England, 1 vs. Iran).
    1 Goal
    • 1934 World Cup: 1 goal (1 vs. Italy). Note: This tournament used a direct knockout format; this was their only match.
    • 1998 World Cup: 1 goal (0 vs. Germany, 1 vs. Iran, 0 vs. Yugoslavia).
     
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  21. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most likely path:

    R32: Bosnia
    R16: Belgium
    QF: Spain

     
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  22. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Having a 9 like Balogun is definitely a game changer in that regard.
     
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  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What if someone told you that France won their first and only game 3-1 and yet "the United States has a higher chance of qualifying to the quarterfinals than France" was an accurate statement....


     
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