World Cup 2022 Qualifying General Topic [R]

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  1. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

    Internazionale Milano
    Albania
    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Albania
    This might be controversial but if the intercontinental playoff is Panama-New Zeland in Qatar I'd rate chances 50:50.
    I don't know why New Zeland gets so much overlooked.
    They have an excellent target man in Chris Wood and also a decent crop of young players coming up. New Zeland did well at the last Olympics for example.
    Teams like Australia and Japan are overrated imo in this cycle. South America isn't what it used to be etc....
    New Zealand is an unknown quantity and flying under the radar which could benefit them.
     
  2. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree. Panama at most would be a slight favorite in Qatar in a one off game.
     
  3. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Japan or Australia should be favorites against Ecuador, since the Pichincha warriors are the type who mostly gets points at home, in the heights of Quito, playing in the Casa Blanca.

    Uruguay is the opposite: a team that often does better away than at home. So IMO they'd be heavy favorites against the #5 in Asia.

    Aging Chile would have a tough time, and a Peru-Japan could prove interesting, with two teams very focused on precise passing and control of the midfield.
     
  4. Douglas Campbell

    BVB
    United States
    Mar 2, 2018
    Exactly. One thing to note is that Panama got lucky with the scheduling, injuries, and Berhalter playing the 2nd/3rd team vs. the US, and here on out they have a tough schedule. Playing the first string on US soil, they will lose that game 3-0. They also have away matches at Costa Rica (where they may well get a result, and put Costa Rica out), and at Mexico. I'd expect Panama to get around 8-9 points the rest of the way. This means the US can probably win out at home against weak teams and qualify.
     
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  5. Douglas Campbell

    BVB
    United States
    Mar 2, 2018
    I was thinking, what Berhalter should do for the US's next game vs. El Salvador is maybe play what is kind of 2nd stringers in the defense. It's not clear exactly anyway who is first/second string. Then you can play fresh defenders three days later vs. Canada. For example, give Joe Scaly, who may be deserving to be a first stringer anyway, a start.
     
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  6. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Huh? Ecuador is not dropping a 6 point and 11 goal lead to be fifth. Also, they've gotten results away against Chile, Colombia and Bolivia.
     
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  7. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Ecuador has a poor record playing outside South America. For their sake, I hope they don't blow a tire.
     
  8. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

    Internazionale Milano
    Albania
    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Albania
    #758 Kamtedrejt, Dec 16, 2021
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2021
    The current standings are reflecting the reality.
    Ecuador are right now the third best team in South America. I have no doubts on that.

    I expect them to keep that third place until the very end.
    If not handed a horrible draw I expect this generation to repeat what the 06 team did.
    So I wouldn't bank on them to do poorly in Qatar.

    Stats and records are nice but it's only useful if you consider the context.
     
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  9. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I predict on the 27th, Costa Rica is eliminated
     
  10. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn, damn, damn

     
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  11. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    I seen that they're already ruling him out for the Honduras match.

    Brazy
     
  12. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Almost certainly out for the full window - ain't no one want another Eriksen situation on our hands.
     
  13. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Damn... So young too.

    Hope for the luh jit.
     
  14. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here are the start times in Eastern Time:

    Thursday January 27:
    Jamaica vs. Mexico at 7:00 P.M.
    USA vs. El Salvador at 7:30 P.M.
    Honduras vs. Canada at 8:05 P.M.
    Costa Rica vs. Panama at 9:05 P.M.

    Sunday January 30:
    Canada vs. USA at 3:05 P.M.
    Mexico vs. Costa Rica at 6:00 P.M.
    Panama vs. Jamaica at 6:05 P.M.
    Honduras vs. El Salvador at 7:05 P.M.

    Wednesday February 2:
    Jamaica vs. Costa Rica at 7:00 P.M.
    USA vs. Honduras at 7:30 P.M.
    Mexico vs. Panama at 8:00 P.M.
    El Salvador vs. Canada at 9:00 P.M.

    If you count 8:00 and 8:05 as the same and count 9:00 and 9:05 as the same, both weekdays have the same start times.
     
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  15. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eustáquio caught the 'rona, so he's out too :(
     
  17. DaniChandler

    DaniChandler Member

    Jun 9, 2013
    Panama Canal
    Club:
    Cruzeiro Belo Horizonte
    Nat'l Team:
    Panama


    Very funny to me how some canucks paint their trips to Central America in fútbol terms… from Julian De Guzman voice (of course, with special ingredients added by the media)
     
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  18. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    I find it annoying. Just win a game there and shut up about it.
     
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  19. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Costa Rica vs Panama should be good!
     
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  20. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.fifa.com/tournaments/me...-cup-qualifying-preview-afc-concacaf-conmebol is titled "Crunch clashes on the qualifying menu." It says:

    "Concacaf: In the final straight
    Team Played Points GD
    Canada 8 16 +8
    USA 8 15 +7
    Mexico 8 14 +4
    Panama 8 14 +2
    Costa Rica 8 9 -1
    Jamaica 8 7 -4
    El Salvador 8 6 -6
    Honduras 8 3 -10

    The penultimate set of fixtures is imminent in the North, Central America and Caribbean zone, as teams jockey for one of three automatic qualification berths. Mathematically at least, the final eight sides still have all to play for, but group leaders Canada (16 points) are best placed to progress, even if USA (15), Mexico and Panama (both on 14) are hot on their heels. The remaining teams harbour hopes of securing the intercontinental play-off spot, which would set up a match against the winner of OFC qualifying in Qatar in June.

    Match in focus: Costa Rica-Panama
    Fifth meets fourth on 28 January in San Jose. Costa Rica and Panama shared the spoils when they last played in September 2021, but neither can afford to drop points here with third place in their crosshairs. Los Ticos have featured at five World Cups to date, but they are currently fifth in the table with just nine points. Los Canaleros, meanwhile, made their debut at the global showpiece at Russia 2018, and go into the match full of confidence after beating USA in October. Can Panama harness that momentum and earn a fourth victory in what will be their 18th World Cup qualifying game against Costa Rica?

    46
    The number of goals scored across the 17 World Cup qualifying matches between Costa Rica and Panama to date, at an average of almost three per game. Goals are all but guaranteed."

    Today is my birthday, and I don't have sports to watch. It will be very bad if USA doesn't beat El Salvador. The game in El Salvador was scoreless without many chances for either team.

    Here are my predictions made before the round started:

    USA 4-0 El Salvador
    Honduras 1-1 Canada
    Costa Rica 4-2 Panama
    Jamaica 1-2 Mexico

    Canada 0-0 USA
    Honduras 2-0 El Salvador
    Panama 2-1 Jamaica
    Mexico 4-0 Costa Rica

    USA 3-0 Honduras
    El Salvador 0-0 Canada
    Mexico 4-0 Panama
    Jamaica 2-1 Costa Rica
     
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  21. OurTimeNowEh

    OurTimeNowEh New Member

    Oct 13, 2021
    Canada has no depth and can’t win in Central America? Any more straws you guys want to grasp at?
     
  22. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Canada is clearly joining the US and Mexico at the top of concacaf. Any who says otherwise is just acting like others did with the US in the 00s.
     
  23. barnabyjonez

    barnabyjonez Member

    May 28, 2011
    The Valley, Saba
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Panama will play an angry Jamaica who'll need a win to stay hopeful. The Jamaicans lost points against US and Mexico at home that were attainable. The top three are separating a bit. As a Canadian, that is nice to see.
     
  24. Kamtedrejt

    Kamtedrejt Member+

    Internazionale Milano
    Albania
    Mar 14, 2017
    Hamburg
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Albania
    #774 Kamtedrejt, Jan 28, 2022 at 4:31 AM
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2022 at 4:36 AM
    The doubtets and haters run out of arguments. After yesterday it should be clear for everyone that Canada are one of three powerhouses in CONCACAF.
    Costa Rica has left. Canada has taken over.
     
  25. Douglas Campbell

    BVB
    United States
    Mar 2, 2018
    Yeah, I can't believe bookies had the US as favorites at their away match in Canada. I'm a US fan, of course, but so far this cycle: (1) Canada has more points, (2) a better goal differential, (3) They've played a much harder schedule, having already played away at Mexico and the US, and more away matches, and (4) The US historically plays much worse on the road than at home, and that is certainly the case this cycle. On the other hand, no Charlie Davies, and Canada's stadium will be at 50% capacity. But then, the US will be without Gio Reyna, and Berhalter will likely rotate players for the Canada match, to make sure the US gets 3 points at home vs. Honduras.
     

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