World Cup 2022 and politics (R)

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by superdave, Nov 4, 2022.

  1. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Any country that criminalizes my existence should be on a blacklist. And no, religious excuses are not justifiable, given all deities and religious laws are human constructs.

    Period.
     
  2. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Well they didn't make the bottom 10 :thumbsup:

    Top 10 Countries with the Lowest Human Freedom Indexes (2021):
    1. Syria — 3.66
    2. Venezuela — 4.03
    3. Yemen — 4.08
    4. Sudan — 4.48
    5. Egypt — 4.49
    6. Iran — 4.53
    7. Somalia — 4.93
    8. Burundi — 5.02 (tie)
    9. Iraq — 5.02 (tie)
    10. Libya — 5.05
    https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-index-by-country
     
  3. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Not the bottom 10 but 128th (out of 165)
    Country Freedom Rank Personal Freedom Economic Freedom
    Qatar ... 6.15 ..... 128 ..... 5.48 ..... 7.09
    Between Angola and Azerbaijan and Russia

    By the way, US is 15th between UK and Japan.
     
  4. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Poland
    Jun 27, 2000
    Club:
    OSP Lechia Gdansk
  5. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Poland
    Jun 27, 2000
    Club:
    OSP Lechia Gdansk
  6. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

    Paris Saint Germain
    United States
    Apr 8, 2002
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FIFA - and the national associations, and many entities that make up them - are made up on absolutely corruptible "leaders," many white, many not white at all, due to wholly undemocratic institutions and totally opaque processes. You cannot get the cockroaches and criminals out - as we did - change no institutional system, plug new people in and get a different result. You will get what we've gotten, and the most vulnerable remain so. RIP Andrew Jennings, and we continue to need A Better FIFA (https://thesoccerapprentice.wordpress.com/2014/06/11/a-better-fifa/)
     
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  7. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kazakhstan, Malaysia, and Kyrgyzstan all rank higher than Qatar.
     
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  8. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Argentina is 74th. Ahead of Brazil and Mexico, but behind Chile and Uruguay.

    Freakin' Peronists!
     
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  9. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    On the point of the money spent, it was questionable domestically in Brazil and Russia because of its domestic socio-economic issues. Qatar, being the unique tiny oil / gas rich country it is, doesn't seem to have a problem taking care of the needs of its tiny population of less than 400k citizens (as far as I know). The foreign workers is obviously another story.
     
  10. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A friend of mine wrote:

    "The US can still make the quarterfinals of the World Cup if Mike Pence has the courage to do the Right Thing"
     
  11. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's funny because it's so ********ing dark
     
  12. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    He didn't. Ghanaians have had chances in CAF and WC qualifying and didn't.
     
  13. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    USA is 137th in the world (out of 196) when it comes to homicide rates. Trailed slightly by Afghanistan in 140th. Obviously USA should be stripped of WC 2026 - too dangerous.

    By the way Qatar is 15th

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    See how easy that was?
     
  14. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    And?


    Nobody here, least of all me as based on my posting history here, is happy about the "homicide rate," or the violence in general, in the US.


    What the hell is your actual point?
     
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  15. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    “Nobody here” is irrelevant, as is being happy about it or not. It’s a comparison of two countries. I’m aware that you’re not the President of the USA.

    It’s whether you as a society have the ability to change the situation. Apparently you have a lot of freedoms and the government is for the people. So if public safety is a priority for the people, it should be fairly simple democratic exercise to change things.

    There’s a very simple thing the US government can do to reduce homicide rates. Restrict gun ownership like most civilised countries. It won’t do it.

    So obviously either all those people who are not happy about the death rates are being oppressed by their government and forced to keep the unpopular second amendment, in which case the logical consequence is that you all should be calling for boycotting the 2026 World Cup.

    Or, the US population likes having a society that prioritises “God given rights” over public safety. In which case the logical consequence is that you all should be calling for boycotting the 2026 World Cup on the basis that the country is too dangerous.
     
  16. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Seeing your posts here you sound like the Russian apologists who justify every bad action Russia does

    Between it didn't happen(fake), Nazis and very bad whataboutism this is the the same shit you use for Qatar

    But I am glad this WC happened because it ensure the world cup never happens in these parts of the world over again.

    And you are hilarious with your Muslims see Qatar as a win because all I saw is Qatar promised to not do this and that only to take it back with 2 days to go. That means you agree with lying

    Imagine saying all 32 countries fans are welcomed here followed by the screeching "muh rulez" the second those fans arrive. FIFA in all of their corruption still know advertisers and fans are very important so they will not let this sham happen again because believe or not the World Cup is driven by the West.
     
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  17. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    Good lad. At least you’re honest about it.
     
  18. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    You know which club you are fan of right? And the country of the club

    Speaking of being honest

    Can you explain how can a person live in the west and able to practice all kinds of beliefs for them to find excuses for the home country or like minded countries to have all kinds of backwards laws like you know....modern slavery
     
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  19. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
  20. waitforit

    waitforit Member+

    Dec 3, 2010
    Valcea
    Club:
    FC Steaua Bucuresti
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    #2195 waitforit, Dec 4, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2022
    HAHA you are precious. The most amazing being you think to got me with the link that says "recent-reforms"

    First that is a lie in practice.



    at 14:45 and 21:57


    Irrelevant. You attitude towards Qatar is still you go girl. Muslims are proud of Qatar. And you go on the defensive the minute Qatar is attacked for those reasons and say shit like "but what about USA"

    I don't care about your home country. My point was the people who enjoy 3425454 freedoms in western countries are defensive of Muslim majority countries like Qatar.

    Imagine if Muslims were treated in [insert western countries] like atheists (like me) are treated in [insert 45454 Muslim majority countries]

    Heck a live in a backwards Christian country and no one has told me I deserve to go to jail. Called satanist 2 times but who cares as I never feared for my life
     
  21. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Bothsidesistan?
     
  22. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Poland
    Jun 27, 2000
    Club:
    OSP Lechia Gdansk
    Thundera?
     
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  23. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    News chyron "US Leaves WC with Heads High" Those plucky youngsters!
     
  24. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    High Fidelity rep underrated top 10 movie.
     
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  25. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Adams thought Musah and Dest would sort out the extra man because USA had one man extra. So he is coming back in supportive role not a somebody has to take the open man role. But Musah and Dest don't sort it out until it's too late. Second Goal again Dest stays on his wing defending space. LVG, the Dutch coach who looked like a coach and not some dad at his kids soccer game, said "the USA didn't adjust to their game plan so it was easy to keep doing what worked".
     
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