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  1. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
  2. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He’d likely be an improvement over Berhalter, but he hasn’t exactly established the best track record so far. From what I’ve seen Leeds fans thought he was very tactically limited, which sounds a lot like complaints from US fans about GB.
     
  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    IOW a perfect fit by US Soccer standards! :D
     
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  4. I wonder how tactically astute USMNT players are compared to the top countries. In other words will it have any effect if you put a tactical genius in front of them.
     
  5. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, that sounds like something you would wonder.
     
  6. I would think Gio, Pulisic and Dest are tactically matching players from the top countries because they were in such an environment from kid on, but how about the rest?
     
  7. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
  8. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
    Bethesda, Md
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tangentially related, I watched last night on Apple TV a documentary called " Super League, The war for football". It is about the Super League creation and crashing down. It is pretty well done albeit with a strong pro UEFA bias.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24587530/
     
  9. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
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  10. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  11. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well to start with I wasn’t really referring to some super secret tactics concocted in a Dutch lab, more the basic ability to adjust a formation and tactics depending on the players available that’s essential to national team play, and to further modify those tactics and formation before or during a match to counter what your opponent is doing.

    But beyond that the fact that the core players of our national team play in top European leagues these days suggests that they don’t fall short in the areas you’re suggesting. And these days most of our best domestic academies and youth clubs have high quality coaches that are either from more established soccer nations themselves or learned from such coaches. The gap is still there but it isn’t what it used to be.
     
  12. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I heard a very depressing interview on NPR with a very well informed NY TImes reporter about the Middle Easterning of the World Cup. The wealthy Middle East oil bloc and FIFA both regard Qatar 2022 as a huge success, because working together they effectively squashed dissent. Qatar feels as if it got more than its money's worth in promotion, and FIFA loved the fact that Qatar paid it $$$$ and was willing to let FIFA do whatever it wanted, as long as that was apolitical.

    This reporter thinks there is a legit chance that the Saudis will get the next available Men's World Cup.
     
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  13. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
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  14. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    It depends. What is more important...human rights or $$$? :unsure:
     
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  15. luftmensch

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    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    $$$ are people too!
     
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  16. NORML

    NORML Member+

    Aug 9, 2002
    Lake Wobegon, MN
    Club:
    NSC Minnesota Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Speaking about boycotting the women's national team to our north were planning to skip the SheBelieves Cup as a protest against Federation cut backs and pay inequality but backed down after the fed threatened to sue the players.
     
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  17. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lake Irony of F1 sits in the middle of the Arabia Peninsula. F1 is pushing hybrid/electric/sustainable fuels, yet has long term deals (10 years or more) to run in the petrochemical tyrannical monarchies of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, and Qatar.
     
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  18. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was my first thought when I read that article.
     
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  19. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Their choice to boycott or not boycott will answer the question totally.
     
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  20. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    The Australian and New Zealand organizing committee should tell FIFA to shove their World Cup if Saudi Arabia is a sponsor.
     
  21. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I doubt anybody really cares who hosts the WWC. But the USWNT might be able to threaten to stay home and then make it clear that whoever DOES win is a paper champion. The USWNT has more clout with the public than the given Fed. New Zealand doesn't go to the World Cup enough on their own for the Fed brass to opt out. Hosting means qualification. The team players need to be the ones to say they're not going...
     
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  22. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Besides, holding World Cups and Olympics in autocratic countries equals
    TRADITION
     
  23. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In absolutist terms, definitely. But rarely is life like that. Though it would be interesting to see what would happen if they start putting that message out there as a thought.
     
  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    $ is speech ergo human beans
     
  25. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Your DC United jokes won't make a dent with these barbarians.
     
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