World Cup 2014 Round of 16 - Netherlands vs Mexico, 29 June 18:00 CEST

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  1. Quackmore

    Quackmore Member

    Jun 5, 2011
    The Netherlands
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
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    29 June 2014
    18:00 CEST (13:00 local time)
    Estádio Castelão, Fortaleza
     
  2. Quackmore

    Quackmore Member

    Jun 5, 2011
    The Netherlands
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Mexico would have topped the group had it not been for some questionable refereeing, so they should not be underestimated, which unfortunately I've seen some people do already. I think they'll be a tougher opponent than Chile.
     
  3. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I'm going to have to watch this one on delay as we will be driving home from a holiday at the beach. Mexico are an interesting team in that they almost didn't even qualify for the WC. They needed the US to beat Panama in the final pool game and then had to win the play in match against New Zealand. Their keeper had the game of his life against Brazil but is not reliable and their back line likewise. They are quick up front and have some decent strikers. They didn't play particularly well against Cameroun in the first match, were good against Brazil thanks to their keeper, and ended up with a somewhat easy win over Croatia when things got stretched late in the match.

    Mexico are not on par with any of the teams that we have played so far but as noted no team in this competition should be underestimated. Because of their defensive issues, I expect the Dutch to score 2-3 goals but the issue will be whether we concede any.
     
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  4. CanadaHolland

    CanadaHolland Member

    Apr 20, 2009
    Toronto, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Well said Netherlands should be favored to win this match.

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  5. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    My family knows the drill - I do not exist from 11-1 CST on Sunday. 1:30 if extra time.
     
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  6. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member

    Jan 26, 2007
    I was very impressed with the fitness of Mexican players. They played in the 70+ minutes, and still looked very fresh (in stark contrast with the Croats who gassed out). It will be a great game... Both Mexico and Netherlands are good in absorbing pressure and rely on the individual's quickness to counter. Robben + RVP should be able to dominate the aging Rafa Marquez. Need De Jong to shut down Andres Guardado who looks very good on the ball.
     
  7. Antario2

    Antario2 Member

    Jan 29, 2012
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Is the high fitness level of the CONCACAF teams in general due to being only half way though the season in their leagues?

    Mexico has impressed me in the group stages and they only conceded one goal. That is pretty good defending for a team with a supposedly shaky back line.
     
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  8. NCCFBALL

    NCCFBALL Member+

    Apr 19, 2007
    INDIANA
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Only the MLS league is in middle season, everyone else is basically on the same schedule the rest of the world is. US league is only messed up one
     
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  9. LGRod

    LGRod Member+

    Mexico
    Aug 14, 2010
    Listenin to Los Bookies
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    subbed
     
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  10. Roofvogel

    Roofvogel Member

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    Netherlands
    Jun 17, 2014
    Club:
    FC Groningen
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    My predictions:

    1. Netherlands vs Mexico 1:0
    2. Another reactionary win, Mexico will have superior possession
    3. Van Gaal will insult everyone who criticizes his system (wil alleen maar ja-knikkers)
     
  11. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    I agree that Mexico looks very fit, as most Middle and South American sides in this tournament. Shouldn't be underestimated. Croatia and Brazil are fine opponents; Croatia unlucky to been placed in that group and not in the one of France, Colombia, Argentina or Belgium.
     
  12. JC-14

    JC-14 Member+

    Jan 28, 2010
    Amsterdam
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I'm glad we got Mexico and not Croatia. Mexico will go all out on the offense, they have no other modus. Let them wreck themselves on our cattenaccio!

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  13. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I hope the team is not looking ahead to this weak side of the bracket. Every match in this tournament has to be treated as a final. van Gaal knows this and I'm sure will do his level best to keep the team focused!!!
     
  14. Parel

    Parel Member

    Jun 16, 2010
    Club:
    NAC Breda
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    If it ends up being a normal day in Fortaleza then I guess conditions will be very difficult for Oranje. In fact this will be the first time a WC match in Fortaleza kicks off so early in the day. Kuyt seemed confident that the team have ways to deal with this. Hopefully he's right, and hopefully there will be some rain showers and/or clouds (as some weather reports seem to have implied). Otherwise it will clearly be advantage Mexico as far as the weather goes. Oranje arrive on Friday morning which only leaves a couple of days to acclimatize.

    Excluding Australia I presume?

    Mexico have had a good tournament so far, and they definitely shouldn't be underestimated. Will be a difficult opponent for Oranje. However, IMO as long as our defense performs up to the standard of the last game, then our quality up front should be enough to progress.
     
  15. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Well in fairness it's kinda hard to play football in Jan in Chicago or Boston. Yes I know they do in Russia but there's an established football culture and fan base there
     
  16. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I don't think they play during those months in Russia. Earliest I can remember is a late February EL match that Twente played 2-3 years ago and the temperature was brutally cold.
     
  17. BaritoPutra

    BaritoPutra Member

    Jan 26, 2007
    It's worth noting that Mexico has had difficulty scoring in this tourney. Against Croatia, I remembered the commentators were saying (when the game was still tied 0-0) that Mexico was on the verge of history qualifying to the knockout phase with only scoring a goal. But then, they scored the first goal from a free-kick, the flood gate opened up because Croatia came up gun blazing chasing for an equalizer and abandoned defense altogether.

    Hopefully the Dutch defense + Nigel De Jong can force a shutout. I am sure the rest will take care of itself, as I believe the quality of Oranje front players will be enough to see it through. Sneijer really needs to step up. Three mediocre games so far, very disappointing. I would keep Wijnaldum in the starting line up (vs. De Guzman), he will match the quickness of Mexican midfield. Depay as super-sub again.
     
  18. NCCFBALL

    NCCFBALL Member+

    Apr 19, 2007
    INDIANA
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    A world cup qualifier was played (USA vs Costa Rica) in a snow blizzard in the US and that was find and dandy.
     
  19. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #19 windycity, Jun 25, 2014
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    That was a bit of an unusual situation, I don't think running a league on that basis makes much sense. They could still align it better but again the sport is still young here and you won't get many fans going to games in mid December either. I won't go outside to watch hockey in the winter (playing is a different story), I'm certainly not going to watch (mediocre) football in the freeze.
     
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  20. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I think that's right actually, makes even more sense.
     
  21. Quackmore

    Quackmore Member

    Jun 5, 2011
    The Netherlands
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Kind of worried about this game considering our history - fantastic results in the group stage, playing an opponent we should theoretically beat, people already picturing us in the semi-finals...pretty ominous signs.
     
  22. sonicdream

    sonicdream Member

    Sep 27, 2002
    West of Suez canal
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Same here. Every reason to believe that this game could go 120 minutes, in the heat & humidity. That can be worrisome. Subs will play a huge role in this game
     
  23. Triangulito

    Triangulito Member+

    Jun 28, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    It only appears that way (Méxicos low scoring tally) because of referee decisions. México scored two more goals on the first game against Cameroon, but were wrongly called offside. Although I do believe we are having a bit more problems than we should considering that we are stacked on forwards this tournament.
     
  24. Mr.S

    Mr.S Member

    Oct 22, 2011
    Depay had nice things to say in general about the WC & Robben
     
  25. 2nd_striker

    2nd_striker Member

    May 21, 2008
    London
    im scared more beause of the way european teams have dropped like flies. our history against teams we should beat aint so bad
     

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