WORLD CUP 1958 - Retconned

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  1. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    @Perú FC sent me his XI
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  2. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    @Perú FC sent me his team
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  3. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Now votes in MatchDay1 are open for everybody
     
  4. TerjeC

    TerjeC Member

    None
    Norway
    Nov 19, 2023
    Norway
    I would predict:
    G1: W.GER vs BRA 0-2
    G1: ENG vs PER 3-1
    G2: HUN vs SWE 1-1
    G2: ARG vs ITA 2-1
     
  5. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Sorry, I'll apreciate, voting as follow:
    - Result
    - Goalscorers
    - Man of the Match
    Thanks
     
  6. moodiomemo

    moodiomemo Member

    sao paulo fc
    Jul 15, 2007
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Wger 1 bra 3
    Motm - garrincha
    Eng 3 per 0
    Motm- johnny haynes
    Swe 3 Hung 2
    Motm- liedholm
    Ital 1 arg 1
    Motm- sivori
     
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  7. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Matchday 1:
    G1:
    G1: ENG vs PER. 2-0
    Goals: Taylor
    MOTM: Taylor

    G2: HUN vs SWE 2-2
    Goals: Puskas, Selmonsson, Skoglund, Albert.
    MOTM: Lennart Skoglund

    G2: ARG vs ITA 2-1
    Goals: Costa, Sivori, Sivori
    MOTM: Sivori
     
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  8. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Matchday 1:
    Group 1:
    ENG 2-2 PER
    Goals: Edwards, Finney, Seminario 2g
    MotM: Seminario

    Group 2:
    ARG 3-1 ITA
    Goals: Sívori 2g, Angelillo, Ghiggia
    MotM: Sívori

    I can't vote in my own matches (Bra-WGer and Hun-Swe)
     
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  9. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Matchday 1 votes:

    England 4 (Edwards 37, Finney 52, Douglas 65, Taylor 80) Peru 2 (Terry 43, Joya 73)
    MOTM: Edwards

    Brazil 4 (Mazzola 22, Pele 35 & 58, Didi 84) W.Germany 2 (Seeler 61, Rahn 89)
    MOTM: Didi

    Argentina 3 (Sivori 33, Angelillo 76, Corbatta 81) Italy 3 (Pascutti 23, Da Costa 58, Schiaffino 70)
    MOTM: Boniperti
     
  10. TerjeC

    TerjeC Member

    None
    Norway
    Nov 19, 2023
    Norway
    W.GER vs BRA 0-2
    Goals: Juskowiak (og), Pelé.
    MoM: Pelé

    ENG 3-1 PER
    Goals: Edwards, Haynes, Finney; Joya.
    MoM: Edwards

    SWE vs HUN 1-1
    Goals: Gren; Puskás.
    MoM: Hamrin

    ARG 2-1 ITA
    Goals: Angelillo x2; Schiaffino.
    MoM: Angelillo
     
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  11. La-Máquina

    La-Máquina BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 5, 2013
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I will vote later this evening :thumbsup:
     
  12. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
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    Peru 4-1 England (17-05-59)

    To be honest, I'd believe that Peru team couldn't only face that England team, but surpass it. They had a very typical style of South American skill that could wreak havoc against an English team not so used to facing that type of rivals. In that friendly match media report that between Joya, Seminario, Terry and Loayza ran over Wright at ground level.

    I also think they were very solid in defense.
     
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  13. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    Brazil 2-1 Germany
    Pepe x2 (Brazil)
    MOTM: Didi (Brazil)

    Sweden 3-2 Hungary
    Hamrin x2, Liedholm (Sweden)
    Puskás x2 (Hungary)
    MOTM: Gustavsson (Sweden)
     
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  14. La-Máquina

    La-Máquina BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 5, 2013
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Matchday 1:

    G1: W.GER 1-2 BRA (Seeler; Pele, Mazzola) MOTM: Garrincha

    G1: ENG 2-1 PER (Taylor, Haynes; Joya) MOTM: Edwards

    G2: HUN 2-2 SWE (Puskas, Czibor; Hamrin, Liedholm) MOTM: Liedholm

    G2: ARG 1-1 ITA (Angelillo; Da Costa) MOTM: Boniperti
     
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  15. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I guess on the flip side England had won against Brazil at Wembley in 1956 for example (and in West Germany the same year), and Sweden has a cooler climate and is in Europe, but yeah as you can see I did feel like Peru might be able to score vs England (and I had it as a 1-1 draw at half-time).

    I guess I could put forwards the Hungary-Sweden games of 1955 (2 years before the consideration period though, more in the magyar prime period albeit without Florian Albert of course, with no Liedholm and Gren or Skoglund and not on the stage of a home World Cup - the actual World Cup game was 2-1 to Sweden of course, but without Puskas and Czibor, or Kocsis who perhaps I could have played....but let's say he is honing his post-1956 fitness levels in training ready for the next game!)
    Sweden - Hungary, May 11, 1955 - International Friendlies - Match sheet | Transfermarkt
    Hungary - Sweden, Nov 13, 1955 - International Friendlies - Match sheet | Transfermarkt

     
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  16. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #66 msioux75, Jan 12, 2025 at 10:14 AM
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2025 at 10:21 AM
    BRAZIL 3 - 1 W.GERMANY

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    Goalscorers: Pelé 2g, Mazzola, Rahn
    Man of the Match: Didi
     
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  17. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    ENGLAND 3 - 1 PERÚ

    [​IMG]
    Goalscorers: Finney, Taylor, Edwards, Joya
    Man of the Match: Edwards
     
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  18. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    HUNGARY 2 - 2 SWEDEN

    [​IMG]
    Goalscorers: Hamrin, Liedholm, Puskas 2g
    Man of the Match: Liedholm
     
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  19. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    ARGENTINA 2 - 1 ITALY

    [​IMG]
    Goalscorers: Angelillo, Sívori, Schiaffino
    Man of the Match: Sívori
     
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  20. moodiomemo

    moodiomemo Member

    sao paulo fc
    Jul 15, 2007
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    when the second round start? id like put the results here
     
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  21. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #71 msioux75, Jan 12, 2025 at 10:56 AM
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2025 at 11:25 AM
    MATCHDAY 1:

    Group 1
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    Group 2
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    Goalscorers:

    2 goals - Pelé, Puskas
    1 goal - Mazzola, Rahn, Edwards, Taylor, Finey, Joya, Hamrin, Angelillo, Sívori, Schiaffino

    Best players:
    6 stars - Sívori, Edwards
    5 stars - Didi, Garrincha, Liedholm, Boniperti
    4 stars - Pelé, Taylor, Haynes, Seminario, Skoglund, Gustavsson, Hamrin, Angelillo
     
  22. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Games for Matchday 2 are open to post their teams.
     
  23. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    The Hungarians and French have kindly decided to announce their line-ups for Matchday 2, so that fans and TV stations (who can prepare diagrams/captions pre-match) will know in plenty of time who is playing for them (i.e I'm announcing them just in case after I log off today the other guys all get their line-ups decided too!)....

    Following posts will reveal them....
     
  24. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Hungary will field a line-up of squad numbers 1-11 for this game with Spain (if the Spaniards want to wear red then Hungary will probably play in white, but provisionally they are set to wear their classic red kit again).

    So Sandor Kocsis makes his debut, hoping to add to his tally of goals from 1954, and Berendi comes in to play the role of the more defensively-minded half back, expecting potentially more forward players in the Spanish line-up (and Sweden having scored 2 goals also).

    The other change is that Bozsik hands the captain's armband now to his long-time friend Puskas.

    HungaryvsSpain.png
     
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  25. moodiomemo

    moodiomemo Member

    sao paulo fc
    Jul 15, 2007
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #75 moodiomemo, Jan 12, 2025 at 11:14 AM
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2025 at 11:27 AM
    round 2
    wger 0 peru 1
    motm - joya
    goal - juan joya
    bra 3 fra 2
    motm - garrincha
    goals - pele (2) and garrincha for brazil - piantonni and fontaine for france
    hung 1 spa 2
    motm - kubala
    goals - czibor and kubala(2)
    swe 3 ital 0
    motm - gunnar green
    goals - skoglund and liedholm(2)
    Liedholm goalscorer 4 goals(2 against hungary and 2 against italy)
     

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