World´s legendary teams

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by neovox, Nov 21, 2003.

  1. neovox

    neovox Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    Sul do Brasil
    World´s legendary teams:

    1940´s River Plate (Moreno, Di Stéfano, Pedernera, Labruna...) They were called La Máquina (The Machine)

    1940´s Torino FC (Mazzola, Bacigalupo, Castigliano, Romeo Menti...) -the whole team died in a plane accident in 1949.

    1950´s Honved (Army) (Puskas, Bozskic, Kocsis, Czibor...) The "Army" side was the main source for the Hungarian National Team in the 1954 WC.

    1950´s Real Madrid (Puskas, Di Stefano, Didi, Kopa, Gento, Santamaria...)

    1958 WC´s Brazil (Gilmar, Djalma Santos, Bellini e Nilton Santos, Orlando e Zito, Garrincha, Didi, Vavá, Pelé e Zagallo)

    1960´s Santos Futebol Clube (Pelé, Mengálvio, Coutinho, Pepe, Dorval...)

    1960´s/1970´s Ajax (Johan Cruyff, Neeskens, Rep, Krol, Haan, Suurbier...)

    1960s Celtic (Bobby Murdoch, Bobbie Lennox, John Clark, Bertie Auld, Kenny Dalglish.....)

    1970 WC´s Brazil (Félix, Carlos Alberto, Brito, Piazza, Everaldo, Clodoaldo, Rivelino, Gerson, Jairzinho, Pelé, Tostão)

    1970´s Bayern Munich (Sepp Maier, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Paul Breitner...)

    1970´s Liverpool FC (Bob Paisley´s squad...)

    1980´s Juventus (Zoff, Gentile, Sirea, Cabrini, Platini, Paolo Rossi, Boniek...)

    1990´s São Paulo (Zétti, Toninho Cerezo, Raí, Cafu, Müller...)

    Any sugestion?
     
  2. tippy

    tippy New Member

    Nov 21, 2003
    London
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    1980s france with the platini,tigana,giresse etc.

    late 80s early 90s milan (with gullit,rijkaard,van basten, baresi, maldini, costacurta etc)
     
  3. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The jury's still out, but when all's said and done a few years down the line I think the present-day Real Madrid squad might be up there. Another Champions League trophy and two or three more domestic championships would cement it.
     
  4. Luther_Gabriel

    Luther_Gabriel New Member

    Sep 3, 2002
    Certainly Manchester United of the '90s - Present needs to be included. 8 out of 11 EPL championships. Several domestic cups and they won the Treble in 1999.
     
  5. soccerfreak #1

    soccerfreak #1 New Member

    Oct 6, 2003
    Cologne
    1950´s Hungarian NT(Puskas, Hidekuti, Boszik, Koscis, Czibor)

    1970´s Borussia M´gladbach(Netzer, Heynkes, Vogts, Bonhof, Stielike, Simonsen)

    1978-83 Hamburger SV(Keagan, Magath, Hrubesch, Stein, Kaltz, Hartwig)
     
  6. MIGkiller

    MIGkiller Member+

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    May 9, 2003
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    How could you miss Flamengo? (Zico, Júnior, Leandro, Mozer, Aldair, Jorginho...)
     
  7. Gunners11

    Gunners11 Member

    Jul 22, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Brazil of the 90's. They have won 2 of the last 3 World Cups.
     
  8. the_striker710

    the_striker710 New Member

    Nov 22, 2003
    England
    The best teams ever in my opinion are the 5 times winning european cup real madrid team

    The Brazil team of 1982 which is the greatest team to never win the world cup with zico,soccreties,falco,junior and the rest...

    And The A.C milan team of the 1980's which included the great marco van bastern,ruud gullet,frank rikard,baresi,maldini,papin,desially and the rest of the great players.

    Nottingham Forest also had a great team in 78-79 holding the world record for competitive matches unbeaten which is around 42 games.

    OUTSTANDING....
     
  9. Scipio Gothicus

    Aug 6, 2001
    Cabo San Lucas
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    42 is correct, Striker, and that Forest team certainly deserves a mention with two Champions Cups and a Super Cup. Also might be the oldest club on this list.

    Another team that I would mention, in the same years the Champions Cups were being brought to the Council House in Nottingham, is Club America out of Mexico City. There are probably more than a few objections to this, and if they had met Forest in Tokyo, they would get thrashed. But the first Mexican team to win the Liberators Cup deserves recognition.
     
  10. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Er, I think the 54 Magic Magyars and the 74 Dutch would have a quibble with that statement...

    That the Total Football of Cruyff and co. of '74 hasn't been mentioned yet is quite surprising.
     
  11. Danks81

    Danks81 Member

    May 18, 2003
    Philadelphia
    What about the shockingly young Ajax squad of the mid 90's?
     
  12. BadReligion

    BadReligion New Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Washington, DC
    Current Real Madrid squad, just on name-notoriety alone.

    Early-mid 90's Ajax
    50's Real w/ Puskas, Di Stefano, Kopa
    Mid-late 90's Juventus, won the CL, could've won 4
    Late 70's-Early 80's Liverpool
     
  13. BadReligion

    BadReligion New Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Washington, DC
    Re: Re: World´s legendary teams

    Seriously. As much as I love seeing my favorite team get noticed, I have to agree. That Flamengo squad was unreal.
     
  14. neovox

    neovox Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    Sul do Brasil
    Re: Re: World´s legendary teams

    I did not. I knew someone would remember. And I´m old enough to say that I saw them playing. And don´t forget Cantarelli, Rondineli, Adílio, Raul, Nunes, Andrade and so many others. Pure magic!
     
  15. Random

    Random New Member

    May 20, 2002
    N4 again
    A lot of the teams mentioned are very good, some less good, but most don't qualify as "legendary" in my book. To be legendary, they have to have had something special - as in individual, magical - about them. So my picks.

    National teams.
    50's Hungarians. The Mighty Magyars, smashed the facade of English invincibility at football, beating them 6-3 at Wembley - the first time anyone had beaten them there. The Russian invasion of Hungary in '56 meant the dissolution of the team as members sought sanctuary in the West, and that they would never achieve the honours they deserved.

    '58 Brazilians. The team that made the myth of Brazilian football, that has left the world in awe of them ever since - sometimes later Brazil teams live up to them, sometimes they crumble trying to.

    '70s Holland. Great football, and only the brittle Dutch footballing temperament could stop them getting what their play deserved. It did, aided by German toughness. Thirty years later the Dutch still punch above their weight at football - but still fail to win anything.

    Club teams.
    Mid 20th century Real Madrid. The multiple European Cup-winning team of Puskas and Di Stefano. They were simply the best team in the world, and for years. Current Real Madrid are a misguided attempt to recreate them, made by men who don't understand football. Sorry.

    '70s-'80s Liverpool. Dominated both in England and Europe, no current team creates the aura of inevitable victory like they did.
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    Don't get me wrong, there have been lots of great teams (many Italian ones, Barcelona, Man U, '30s Arsenal even), but they don't get onto the "legendary" level for me. There can only be so many legendary sides.

    Also, I'd like to apologise and plead ignorance of Latin American club football - I may have missed one there, simply because I've never learnt of it.

    Just my opinion. Feel free to disagree.
     
  16. Ender

    Ender Member

    Sep 5, 2003
    Radnor
    Crvena Zvezda

    I was doing a little research on some of these teams as there are admittedly some that I am not so versed on. I thought that adding Red Star from the early 90's. Who knows what this club could have been had civil unrest and political comflict? I would give them a nod too, even if they are not on the level with these other clubs.
     
  17. tippy

    tippy New Member

    Nov 21, 2003
    London
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    yeah. most of the great yugoslavia team of the mid ninties played for them.

    can you imagine what would have happened had yugoslavia (s & m now) not broken up.
     
  18. tpmazembe

    tpmazembe Member

    Jun 13, 2002
    The Midfield (S.Fla)
    Nice.
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    Here are two unmentioned club sides for consideration:

    Late 50'-Mid 60's Botafogo
    Didi, Amarildo, Garrincha, Zagallo, N.Santos....backbone of '58 & '62 Brasilian Selecao, and legendary confrontations with Pele’s Santos


    1960 Benfica
    Featuring Eusebio......5 European Cup finals (winning two) in 8 years (including a stretch of 4 in 5 year span); team that defeated Real Madrid in comprehensive fashion in 1962. Backbone of Portuguese national team finishing 3rd in WC’66.

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    Though they may not meet Random's screen, an acknowledgement to 1980 - 1990 W. German National squad .........two overlapping generations of stars that went to 3 consecutive WC finals (winning one), a European championship, and many never-say-die performances.....Rumenigge, Stielike, Breitner, Augenthaler, Schumacher, Fischer, Magath, Kaltz, Voeller, Klinsman, Matteus, Littbarski, and on and on.
     
  19. Liverpool of the 80's
     
  20. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Become the Tea Pot!!
    Hey t! Long time no speak :) i'm surprised you have named 44 players for a decade in any of the the 4 threads for the different decades.

    Not in the mood for it? :( It would be great to get your insight and particpation ^__^
     
  21. Spurs74

    Spurs74 Member

    Nov 10, 2003

    Uruguay 1920's

    Jose Andrade, Pedro Cea, Hector Scarone, Jose
    Nasazzi. Proved that South Americans picked up the game quickly as they won 2 Olympic Gold and the First World Cup!!!

    Leeds United 1960's-70's
    Billy Bremner, Johnny Giles, Eddie Gray, Peter Lorimer, etc. they were not as skillfull, but they were gritty enough to go toe-to-toe with the Manchester Uniteds and the Liverpools and give them a run for their money.
     
  22. Scipio Gothicus

    Aug 6, 2001
    Cabo San Lucas
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even after this summer's disgrace against Germany, where Hugh Dallas was not there to make sure Germany won, I think the United States Women's National Team might have been the most doiminat team ever.

    16 years. Two World Cups. Two third places, both after injruires to vital players. Olympic Gold and Silver medals.

    The USWNT often beat teams by ten goals or more. Mia Hamm scored 50 more gaols than Pele in international play. I tned to doubt this kind of dominance will be ever seen again.
     
  23. Bauser

    Bauser Member+

    Dec 23, 2000
    Norway
    Club:
    Fredrikstad FK
    ..except they don't have a winning record against Norway's Women's team who have won the World Cup and Olympics without homefield advantage. The huge US dominance is created in US media. The US women might have been overall the best team, but has never dominated in a league of their own.
     
  24. Scipio Gothicus

    Aug 6, 2001
    Cabo San Lucas
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    USWNT also won a World Cup away. And never gave up after an early goal by China.
     
  25. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    The AC Milan team of the late 80's and 90's is the onky team missing.

    I had trouble putting the current Real Madrid team in the same catagory. The 2000 CL winning team is very different from their current squad. You cannot group them together. The 2002 CL winning squad is close to this team, but one CL trophy means nothing comparing to Liverpool of the late 70's, Bayern Munich of the eraly 1970's and the early Real madrid teams. The problem with modern day club football..... they do not keep an intact team for long. Real Madrid won three CLs in 5 years, but they won them with two different teams.
     

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