Women's League in Italy

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by bzygo, Aug 23, 2008.

  1. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Lockdown table: Same as the pre-lockdown table

    After 16th matchday (* = GAME IN HAND)
    Serie A
    Juve 44pts, Fiorentina +25GD 35pts*, AC Milan +20GD 35pts*, Roma 34, FLorentia 24, Sassuolo 23, Inter 19, Empoli 19, Verona 12, Bari 11, Tavagnacco 10, Orobica 1

    Serie B
    Napoli 36pts*, Lazio 34, San Marino 32*, Ravenna 22*, Chievo Fortitudo 20**, Riozesse 20**, Vittoria Veneto 18*, Lady Granata Citadella 17**, Cesena 15**, Roma CF 13*, Novese 9*, Perugia 7

    Fiorentina-Milan was one of the last games postponed. As I remember, the FIGC federation boss said that 30 July is the legal deadline to finish the season (or not finish). Some teams are applying to resume training. That seems over-optimistic from here.

    Don't think I posted the full video from January, one of the games of the season. And definitely the craziest Monday afternoon match

    Women's Serie A | AC Milan v AS Roma
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kLlV-Jco74
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    Some other news - in February the federation looked into making the women's Serie A fully professional in 2021/22. Of course current events will affect it, but it's a positive sign for the future. This week, Milan's captain voiced strong support for the idea.
    Valentina Giacinti: "We dedicate our life to sport, not being professional is absurd" - (Lfootball.it / Archive)

    The 2022 Champions League final, Lyon v ????, will be at the Juventus Stadium.
    Turin will stage the 2022 UEFA Women's Champions League finals - (Allaboutitaly.net)

     
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  2. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    #1102 sbahnhof, May 17, 2020
    Last edited: May 17, 2020
    Not sure if Italy's teams are closer to training together, or deciding to end the league season. The federation FIGC put a paper to the government but it's mostly about financial impacts of the lockdown.

    Juventus players are now training individually.
    (Edit!) Team training is allowed from Mon 18 May.
    Cecilia Salvai said, "We have been constantly monitored by the club and by the athletic trainer, we are lucky to have competent people who work for us. Video calls? Very funny video calls have been made, a senseless mess", so that's good.

    [​IMG] Juve's Linda Sembrant is back in Italy after 63 days in Sweden, but of course, she's in a 14-day quarantine.

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    Linda Sembrant - (img Anders Henrikson, cc-by)

    [​IMG] From before the World Cup, on the TV show A View from the Terrace, on BBC Scotland, Fiorentina's Lana Clelland made a video postcard about Florence

    Lana Clelland | Passporto Scozzese
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3O19RVAfWI
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    Dodgy territory

    Juventus Women at Home Ep. 1 | Never Have I Ever
    https://www.juventus.com/en/news/news/2020/women-at-home-ep--1---never-have-i-ever.php

    Also
    We were arguing in the other thread about "The North Pole and The South Pole: different or the same?", I say they're different, but then I remembered the 'Antipodes' website, and put in 'Italy', and now I regret it. This is too spooky to be a coincidence...

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    :eek:

    (Also, someone tell Katie Rood who played at Juve a few years ago, there might be a Bermuda triangle thing going on)
     
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  3. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Yes, as an Italian, I have always known about the "Antipodes/reversed boot" New Zealand thing.

    I always wondered if there could be any scientific way to explain the coincidence (don't know, some kind of waves going through the planet and shaping these opposite points for some reason), but I had to give up because anything I could think of was actually quickly turning to science-fiction, or to plain super-natural. :D
     
  4. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Either way, someone's getting sued for plagiarism.

    Just after my post, I saw some good news: Serie A teams can return to training together. The request has been granted by the govt Scientific/Technical group.
    Player limits aren't mentioned, but I wonder if there are some? In New Zealand (a.k.a. the real Italy), clubs will only be allowed groups of 10.

    Roma have renewed the contract for FW Agnese Bonfantini (until 2022).
    Still pending is Brazil's Andressa Alves who has 5 goals in 12 games this season.
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    Andressa (L) in her Barca days, in the UWCL final 2019
    (Steffen Prößdorf. cc-by-sa)
     
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  5. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    gaaaaah, foiled again

    Italia 3 - 0 Nuova Zelanda, 7 March 2020 (Algarve Cup)
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6WwjtU8494
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    News of the week ending 23 May:

    Serie B is over for season 2019/20 - but what to do about the incomplete results? A nervous wait for the top 3 Napoli, San Marino and Lazio.
    FIGC announcement / English autotranslated (Archive)

    And Serie C is finito - the 4 regional league tables to be decided later.
    Former national champions Brescia, who dropped 3 divisions when AC Milan bought their licence in 2018, were only 3pts behind the division leader, Vicenza.

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    Double-winners Brescia in 2015/16 (Umberto Favretto, cc-by-sa)

    The players' union wants answers:

    "In deliberating the end of the season for the LND championships, nothing has been said about possible solutions to the current difficulties, and in the coming months, which will face the almost 4,000 members who live on football." - (AIC, Calcio Femminile)
     
  6. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    Women's Serie A could still complete the season, but the mood isn't optimistic. If they play, they want the health and other protections to be the same as the men's divisions, says Juve captain and union rep Sara Gama.
    The male leagues are rushing back and some people are keen to finish by 20 August, despite a new delay and two Parma players testing positive this week. (Has any expert doctor said, "maybe don't play now because that's stupid"?)

    Nonetheless, the masked Rita Guarino was happy to be training again at Juve, the champions-elect. At Sassuolo, Daniela Sabatino is missing football and wants it back in her life. For the Orobica defender, Chiara Poeta, the hospitals' crisis has eased enough that she had her knee surgery, successfully, after a few months' delay.

    Serie-C-femminile.png

    Maybe Serie C isn't a deliberate conspiracy against one island, but Sardinia is... quite far south, isn't it? And none of its clubs are in the southern division? And they don't play each other? And two of them face relegation now? As nice as it is to have multiple away trips to Südtirol...
     
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  7. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Although we can admit it's a bit of a stretch, Sardinia is traditionally considered a "central" region in most contexts. Of course Lazio and Abruzzo use to be considered "center" also, but they probably needed to be added to the southern division because otherwise it wouldn't have had enough teams. It's a known fact that (in men's football also) southern Italy always historically had way less teams than northern Italy.
     
  8. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    ...I suppose, yes, if they go as the crow flies (or presumably they'd be on a plane)

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    Sardinia's champions: Torres in Serie A, 2006
    (Francesco Gasparetti, cc-by)

    AC Milan are back in training today (Tuesday) at Vismara, where players must divide into 2 groups. Milan's last game was on 15 Feb, the 4-0 at Tavagnacco. There's still no word on Serie A.

    Serie B leaders Napoli had a game in hand when matches stopped. Many would agree with their goalie Federica Russo when she says they deserve promotion. The 2nd promotion and relegation places were really close: maybe the answer could be bigger divisions or relegation playoffs.

    The word of the week is professionalism (or if you're learning Italian, "professionismo" :eek:), as it's being discussed a lot in the Italian women's game at the moment. Government minister Vincenzo Spadafora says the legal process will speed up towards a pro women's league.

    Also in favour is Amanda Tampieri of Fiorentina: "In recent years the level of women's football has grown exponentially in many ways."
    Now, I thought that sounded reasonable, but apparently, the newspaper says she's an extremist, an "estremo difensore", so, please, wise @blissett and other wise people, could you explain, what on earth is that? (It is a good phrase actually)
     
  9. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    LOL! :laugh:

    "Estremo difensore" is just a periphrasis (admittedly quite old-school and archaic-sounding, but anyway quite often used by sports media) to refer to a goalkeeper: "estremo" in the ethimological Latin-derived sense of "the farthest one", so basically "estremo difensore" means "the last-standing defender" (i.e. the last one you have to beat to score a goal).

    Italian writers in general, and especially Italian journalists are quite obsessed with the need to avoid excessive repetitions of the same word in a text (I guess in anglo-saxon languages this obsession is felt with way less urge), so we have all kind of strange synonyms and periphrastic expressions to replace the most common words.
     
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