Women's League in Italy

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by bzygo, Aug 23, 2008.

  1. blissett

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    #3126 blissett, Dec 3, 2024
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    At least a dozen tries, but I finally managed to understand how to embed a screenshot here!!! :x3:

    Here you have it: Sofia Cangoals. What do you say? :coffee:

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    Of course, as @Lohmann's screenshot shows, they ended up correcting it to Sofia Cantore before it was too late, but the Cangoals version was anyway up for several seconds! :p
     
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  2. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
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    Feb 24, 2020
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    This is at 56:59 while on German TV the insertion of this substitution started at 57:09.

    56:59 on German TV

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  3. blissett

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    Oh, wow, so, despite the captions being from German TV, they had been obviously changed for the international broadcast (not specifically for the Italian broadcast, since the YouTube full video I had found, for instance, had the comment in English)! :eek:

    They probably had set an automatic traslation of the captions from German to English, but something went wrong when the program mistook the second part of the name Cantore for a legitimate traslation target! :laugh:

    Anyway, even in this international version, the mistake was corrected and in the end the real name of Cantore did appear, but only after some long awkward seconds of Cangoals. :p

    As a bonus, some longer highlights (although with no "Cangoals" captions and with no PK-actions for Germany :p) from Italian RAI-TV YouTube Channel (so probably geo-blocked for all of you, guys? :unsure:):

     
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  4. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
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    Yes, geo-blocked.
     
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  5. Lechus7

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    Aug 31, 2011
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    Milan derby at San Siro this Sunday. Any chance for 20k+ in attendance?
     
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  6. blissett

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    Not sure: Juve-Roma at the Allianz has recently been a success, but Milan don't use to have so many supporters (especially in a bad season like the one they're currently playing). Of course, if San Siro has been given, it's because quite some supporters are expected (especially because this week-end the city of Milan will celebrate their Patron Saint, Ambrogio); on the other hand, the Civic Arena had been more than enough for the derby that was played in the 1st Round, when Inter was the home team: in this Sunday's case, instead, it's been said that the Vismara stadium (home of Milan AC) had a problem of safety standards of the grandstandings. So it's possible that San Siro was only given because the Vismara stadium was too much small for the expected attendance, but it's not a given that this necessarily means that 20.000 supporters are expected.

    By the way, it's very difficult, even for me in Italy, to find data about attendences of Serie A Femminile, apart from the lonely and occasional record-attendances. :unsure:
     
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  7. blissett

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    A first match of the twelve match-day of Serie A Femminile was inusually played yesterday in the evening.

    Roma managed to beat Como, as they had to do to keep alive the race for the title or anyway for a Champions' League spot, but it sure wasn't an easy task and the visitor team confirmed being worthy the title pool where they are currently sitting. They scored first, at 10' already, with always dependable Swedish MF Julia Karlernäs (from a ball that was awkwardly spilt by Roma's GK Camelia Ceasar) and Roma only managed to equalize at the hour mark, with a Lucia di Giglielmo's header from a CK action. Roma's 2nd Half was very good, but it also showed their recurring finishing problems: they scored a beautiful goal with Valentina Giacinti, but they also hit the crossbar twice and missed a PK that was brillantly saved by Astrid Gilardi (an Italian GK! :ninja:). Of course, Manuela Giugliano hadn't taken it perfectly and it wasn't the only questionable shot of her evening (that included some quite weak efforts in the 1st Half, when, as the captain, she was understandably trying to encourage her team-mates to shot more): she had both assists, including the awesome one for Roma's 2nd goal, but probably the team anyway needs more continuity along the whole game from her star-player (she's undisputedly the beacon of the team ad this, of course, implies greater responsibilities).
    Roma momentarily lift themselves at 2nd place, but they could easily be passed again by Fiorentina (if they win their away game vs last-placed Sampdoria, later today) and by Inter (if they win the derby on Sunday). Inter-Milan will also decide if Como will keep their current 5th place or not: Milan could pass them by winning the derby (but I won't hold my breath... :cautious:).

    Yesterday's score:
    Roma 2-1 Como

    Highlights of yesterday's match:

     
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  8. blissett

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    Very important win today in the relegation battle: with their 2-1 score from today, not only Sassuolo go 3 points ahead of their rivals, but they also get even in the direct clash (they had lost by 0-1 in the first round), a piece of stat that could become relevant should they be level with Napol at the end of the league. Once again, Gina Chmielinski was key to her team's result: not only she scored the first goal early in the game (her 7th of the season), but she also conquered a PK (by forcing Tecla Pettenuzzo to foul her), that was subsequently converted by Daniela Sabatino. 20 yo Bosnian FW Maja Jelčić (on loan to Napoli from Inter) tried to close the gap at 68' by scoring her first goal of the season, but it was too little too late and the home team kept control of the game in the last minutes of it. :coffee:

    The final score of Sampdoria-Fiorentina could be misleading, since it seems to suggest that defeating the last-placed team of the league was an wasy task: Sampdoria went ahead first instead, with Tori Della Peruta, could have scored another in the 1st Half if it wasn't for a pair good saves by Francesca Durante (who was unusually starting today, in an all-Italian GKs' duel vs Amanda Tampieri) and kept the lead until 64', when Emma Severini equalized with a "shross". Fiorentina actually only took the lead at 84' with late sub Alexandra Jóhannsdóttir, while their third goal happened at the 6th minute of additional time with Vero Boquete. So, basically Fiorentina avoided the upset and grabbed the 2nd place in the rankings, but you can't really say that it was a flawless performance. :cautious:

    Tosay's recap:
    Sassuolo 2-1 Napoli
    Sampdoria
    1-3 Fiorentina

    Today's Highlights:


     
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  9. blissett

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    In the 1st Half of the match, Juventus wasted a lot of good chances vs Lazio (some of them well saved by Sara Cetinja), in particular with Chiara Beccari. It was her, though, who assisted Sofia Cantore for Juventus' first goal at the beginning of the 2nd Half; when, 10 minutes later, the usual header from CK by Cristiana Girelli made it 2-0, it seemed like the job was done. Lazio managed to come back instead with two goals by Clarisse Le Bihan and Noemi Visentin in about 5 minutes between 71' and 76'. So a last effort was needed by veteran super-sub Barbara Bonansea (an awesome season for her so far), who scored at 90' from an assist by Amalie Vangsgaard.
    Juventus keep the distance from their pursuers; Lazio are stuck at 7 points and at the 8th place. :coffee:


    The attendance of Milan's derby was actually not much more than 2400 :unsure:: it anyway almost doubled the attendance from the first round, but it's way lower than @Lechus7 had suggested: after all, I had said that San Siro had been basically given to the women's team for a technical reason only. Also, it was a holiday week-end in Milan and it was a cold day to boot, not really encouraging to fill the standings. Finally, the fact that the game was going to be played in San Siro was disclosed too late to have a real impact on the supporters' decisions.

    Oh, the final score, are you asking? The same as in the first round, an 1-1 draw. And Inter went ahead first this time also, with the difference that in this case it was against the run of play, because Milan had basically dominated th 1st Half, but it was Elisa Bartoli (back from her injury) opening the score at 45'. Milan managed to equalize early in the 2nd Half with Nadia Nadim from an assist by Monica Renzotti (good game from Milan's 18 yo striker, who had also hit the crossbar in the 1st Half), but Cecilía Rúnarsdóttir kept up with her excellent game and stopped all the subsequent attempts. It was Milan who actually risked being punished towards the end of the game, but Laura Giuliani was good at saving a dangerous shot by Marie Detruyer. :ninja:
    So, in the end it's a draw that keeps Milan at the 6th place behind Como and allows Inter to join Roma at the 3rd place (I've got the impression that the Champions' League's places will be contended until the last match-day :coffee:).

    Today's recap:
    Juventus 3-2 Lazio
    Milan
    1-1 Inter

    Today's Highlights:


     
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  10. dravde

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    Mar 19, 2024
    Totally agree, incredible revitalization! A lot of oldies seems a few years younger since Canzi arrived.
    Bakker at Milan is starting to make sense! At Ajax she had a young talented squad, that I think she had built for years. Milan has been really good in the youth version of Seria A fem for some time, winning the last one ,and it makes perfect sense that she is the one trying to grow the youngsters into the squad , which she is doing atm! In the last games the youngsters Renzotti, Sorelli, Ceasarini and Arrigoni has gotten a lot of play time-all these are 20y and younger! Things are starting to look optimistic for Milan again, in two seasons they could be dangerous, if they can keep this back bone. :D
     
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  11. blissett

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    Yes, probably Suzanne Bakker was signed with this exact plan in mind. It basically involves "wasting" at least one or two seasons (this one included) before the youngsters can actually be up to the task of challenging the best teams in Serie A Femminile, but it's a strategy that makes sense, when you've invested for so long on a good youth team: it sounds like less of a gamble than scouting markets overseas for players that wouldn't be much more of game changers than the domestic ones, unless you aim for the elite-level, that couldn't anyway be economically nor technically lured to Milan. Some highly motivated young domestic players, like the ones Bakker had at Ajax, look like the correct choice, although it of course takes time. :coffee:
     
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  12. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
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    Feb 24, 2020
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    1.Juventus 32 35-12
    2.Fiorentina 26 23-14
    3.Inter 25* 22-7
    4.Roma 25* 24-13
    5.Como 16 18-21
    6.Milan 15 11-14
    7.Sassuolo 9 18-26
    8.Lazio 7 14-20
    9.Napoli 6 4-18
    10.Sampdoria 4 4-28

    *Inter - Roma 1:1

    Next Sunday Fiorentina vs Juve (Juve should rest players in Champions League)
     
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  13. dravde

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    Mar 19, 2024
    Yea, could be interesting, looks like Bakker have a better hand than it looked based on the names. Renzotti in particular I think will be a NT-player very soon, she's very athletic. Agree what you seems to imply it's probably easier to motivate and mold young players also. Funny and ironic in all of this that Bakker so stubbornly starts Nadim all the time, but maybe she feels there needs to be a mama out there to take care of the kids:laugh:
     
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  14. dravde

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    Hehe, not sure Juve dares that against Fiorentina:rolleyes:
     
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  15. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
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    Feb 24, 2020
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  16. blissett

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    Aug 20, 2011
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    Official line-ups of Wolfsburg-Roma, starting in about an hour:

    WOLFSBURG (4-4-2): Frohms; Wilms, Minge Hegering, Linder; Beerensteyn, Huth, Lattwein, Brand; Blomqvist, Popp.

    ROMA (4-3-3): Ceasar; Minami, Cissoko, Linari, Di Guglielmo; Troelsgaard, Kumagai, Giugliano; Greggi, Giacinti, Thøgersen

    Some quite odd choices: Thøgersen as an advanced winger? Troelsgaard and Cissoko starting? :cautious: I would have preferred Minami as a CB than as a FB. I see Haavi and Viens are not even on the bench, so I assume they are injured (not aware about the disciplinary record, though).

    I hate to admit it but I have a bad feeling about this game. :x3:

    Anyway, I should be able to watch it almost entirely (although I could be less motivated to do it should Wolfsburg be ahead early by 3 goals and should the score somehow look similar to the OL game. :unsure:
     
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  17. blissett

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    Thanks for the Saki Kumagai avatar: is it because she's going to face Jule Brand in the midfield? :sneaky:
     
  18. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
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    Kumagai will be needed in defence.
     
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  19. blissett

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    It's confirmed that Evelyne Viens and Emilie Haavi didn't even leave to Wolfsburg because they're injured. :coffee:
     
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  20. blissett

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    2 crossbars hit by Wolfsburg in less than 2 minutes!!!! :x3:

    It will be a long long night... :unsure::unsure::unsure:
     
  21. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
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    Roma very lucky!
     
  22. Lohmann

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    Arminia Bielefeld
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  23. blissett

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    Ok, 1-0 Wolfsburg at 5'.

    This is going to be another Fiorentina-like debacle. :unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure:
     
  24. Lechus7

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    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Cissoko :speechless:... honestly I don't get why Roma singed her, also - and its what I said some time ago - Roma has little chance fighting against top teams in later rounds with Caesar in goal - she lacks reach. :coffee:
     
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  25. blissett

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    I had said earlier that I had a bad feeling about Cissoko and Troelsgaard starting... :cautious:
     
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