Wolyniec

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by ricd, Apr 27, 2003.

  1. ricd

    ricd New Member

    Apr 26, 2003
    Saratoga Springs
    I've seen enough of Wolyniec. He'll do OK for the A-League. No way should he be playing with MLS. Absolutely no vision when he has the ball. Pulling Magee instead of Wolyniec was a mistake. At least Magee would track back to help his team, especially when they were up 1-0.
     
  2. soccerfan220

    soccerfan220 New Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    USA
  3. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's really cheap against the cap.
    He's a reserve most games -- called into service on Saturday because of Guevara's absence and a switch by Bradley to keep Magee (our striker of the future) on the bench.
    He did a nice job holding the ball late in the match.

    What else do you want out of him?
     
  4. sccrhound

    sccrhound Member

    Oct 8, 2002
    CT
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's doing what he is supposed to. Last week the post complained about Magee being knocked off the ball.

    Wolyniec didn't when he and Clint were playing keep away. Remember, he is the 4th striker when all is said and done.

    Don't you think he is better than Klinger?

    All things considered he is doing fine.
     
  5. Section113

    Section113 New Member

    Feb 26, 1999
    Boonton
    Start Woly.

    The "18 yr old kid" gets knocked around too much.
     
  6. Jacen McCullough

    Nov 23, 1998
    Maryland
    Wolyniec looked dangerous a few times in the game, but he was left in due to experience. When you are trying to protect a 1-0 lead, who would you rather have: a 26 year old veteran or an 18 year old playing in his 3rd professional game? It turned out to be the right choice, as Wolyniec held the ball well, taking it to the corner flag more than once to take important seconds off the clock. Wolyniec is a role player, and he plays that role well.
     
  7. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    How about taking a stab at Dante Washington?

    The former Colombus Crew forward now plays for Virginia Beach in the A-League. He knocked in 2 goals in their season opener.

    "Wooley's" okay as a 4th forward, but the problem is there will be games such as Saturday where he all of a sudden becomes the "1st forward".

    With Clint missing games occasionally for USMNT duty (and for his annual assortment of injuries), Moreno having his share of injuries the past few seasons and Magee's inexperience, Wolyniec is going to playing a lot more this season than we think.

    He'll improve with each passing game....but hopefully it's sooner than later.
     
  8. deedougie

    deedougie Member

    Jul 5, 2000
    OAK,CA
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thats exactly what I was thinking. Wolyniec looks like he can actually hold his own out there, especially compared to Klinger
     
  9. Michael K.

    Michael K. Member

    Mar 3, 1999
    There or Thereabouts
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even while living with the 'rents, Wolyniec's probably making just barely enough to keep his E-Z Pass topped off for his daily trips back and forth over the Goethals.

    Do you really think Dante is making less than 24k as a starter in Virginia, or that he would come for anything close to that number just to be back in the same situation he was in, in Columbus?
     
  10. Vistula

    Vistula New Member

    Jul 2, 2001
    Garfield
    I've come to the conclusion that about 90 percent of the Metro fans on this board have neve kicked a soccer ball, much less played even a youth game. The line about Magee "was lucky because he almost missed" is precious. Anywhere else in the world, Magee's goal is called a "great finish" but here, we wonder why he didn't hit a better part of the net. Unreal.

    As for Wolyniec, he kept the Columbus defense occupied the entire match. When balls were played to him, he was either gathering them or making the Columbus defenders pay a price for going for the ball. He should've had an assist, when he stole the ball and laid off to Mathis. He checked back and played nice balls off to runners on a number of occasions. He's faster than any of you seem to realize. I thought he had a very, very good game. But with those of you who throw out the "creative" and "vision" and "skillful" line of crap all the time, you'd be happier with a guy who takes a zillion touches and can do a step-over dribble before he backheels to no one.

    "Oooh, skill."

    Me, I prefer steak to sizzle.

    I can guarantee you Brian Dunseth and Mike Clark thought Wolyniec had a good game. They had their hands full with him.
     
  11. patrickdavila

    patrickdavila Member

    Jan 13, 1999
    Easton, PA
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vistula, good points made.
    Magee's goal was nice. He one timed it to the back of the net. We got 3 pts on the road vs one of the most complete teams in the league. Be happy :)
    As for Wolyniec, he's our 4th forward and probably gets paid accordingly. If he scores 5-10 goals this year I'd consider him a success. It can't hurt having a big forward off the bench especially with what Moreno and Mathis have been showing in the first 3 games. Granted it's early in the season and the offense should pickup with Guevera in the middle.
     
  12. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Wolyniec sounds alot like Wynalda, so I am expecting him to be a national team caliber player who is capable of playing in the Bundesliga. Oh wait, he's a role player who does his job well and hasn't been with the team very long. Oh, and he's had success under Bradley before? Damn, lets cut him now.......bring back Comas!
     
  13. Wabbit67

    Wabbit67 Member

    May 19, 2002
    Avon-by-the-Sea, NJ
    Wolyniec is a more than competent player who is a good third or fourth forward. He may not be Ruiz or Kreis but he also certainly isn't Alvarez or Klinger! He will do a good job. I would be much more concerned about the fact that our first forward (Moreno) is starting to remind me of Diego Serna (and not in the Miami years).
     
  14. Section113

    Section113 New Member

    Feb 26, 1999
    Boonton
    Hell Yeah! He would have doubled Mathis goal tally for last year. Ill take that any day.

    Plus he has Metro-Spirit! Heres a shot of him with Metro the dog.

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  15. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    trade Magee and Wolyniec for Dante
     
  16. Richie

    Richie Red Card

    May 6, 1999
    Brooklyn, NY, United
    I agree he did ok for a small role player.
     
  17. Richie

    Richie Red Card

    May 6, 1999
    Brooklyn, NY, United
    Now your talking that is a great idea. Has to be a better striker comming off the bench then we have now. I also would see if he wanted to become an outside back to stay up with the team. He very strong can move at least he could at one time. Just have to teach him to defend. Then turn him loose into the attack when we have the ball he has attacking skills.

    Richie
     
  18. sccrhound

    sccrhound Member

    Oct 8, 2002
    CT
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow I'm scared. Soemone is actually agreeing with me and being positive.

    Thanks
     
  19. Vistula

    Vistula New Member

    Jul 2, 2001
    Garfield
    Earth to Everyone. The reason Dante Washington is not playing in Columbus is because he wants to make decent money, something Metro cannot offer. Can we please try to pay attention once in a while?
     
  20. Richie

    Richie Red Card

    May 6, 1999
    Brooklyn, NY, United
    Vistula said "Earth to Everyone. The reason Dante Washington is not playing in Columbus is because he wants to make decent money, something Metro cannot offer"

    How much money is Dante making now with Virginia Beach in the A-League? I am relatively sure we can offer more then what they are paying him there, and still stay in the Salary cap. We can always cut some of our dead wood to make room for him no?

    He does well with us this year. He can always move to another MLS club next year if he wants to for more money. He can't be doing that well with that A-league team.

    Got an answer for that?

    Richie
     
  21. Metrosuccess

    Metrosuccess Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I aggree with Richie 100% on this issue as he makes sense. Goodbye Joe addo and /or Wolyniak and hello Dante.
     
  22. Vistula

    Vistula New Member

    Jul 2, 2001
    Garfield
    Yes, you may be relatively sure, but you're wrong. Top A-League players make anywhere from $50-75k. Eric Wynalda was making about $80k, with housing, to play for Charleston a year ago.

    Metro can offer about $30k. See, the problem is you have to fill every roster spot. Richie, we've been down this road before, there are threads out there that detail the MetroStars salary cap situation pre-Guevara. There's nothing left to give.

    Columbus wanted to keep Dante, but he had his "price" and they couldn't come up with it, and neither could nine other MLS teams.

    The A-League can get more creative with player contracts than MLS, offering free housing (a common tactic in Rochester where players like Lenin Steenkamp and Doug Miller always said they couldn't afford the MLS paycut) and "easy money" youth coaching opportunities. These guys need to earn a living, and MLS backup-money doesn't cut it. Remember Jason Farrell? There's a long list of guys who've gone for the "money" of the A-League.

    I know so many of you are anxious to prove that you are so much smarter than the Metro and could pick a better team, etc. But you really have to "try" to pay attention to league rules and regulations. It may take a little time and effort, but things may start to make a little better sense.

    See, even if Dante wanted to play for Metro...say he agreed to play for 30k...well, he still belongs to Columbus. So, once he agrees to 30k, it's back to the Crew.
     
  23. Vistula

    Vistula New Member

    Jul 2, 2001
    Garfield
    See above. Maybe if you could combine the Addo-Woyniec money, you'd be in the Dante ballpark. But, much as some MLS teams would like to cut their roster down by a player or two so they could pool the money on one player, it's not allowed. Remember the Ledger article a while back on Addo, where he said, "I've made my money in the game, now I just want to stay put in my house in New Jersey and try to help the club." I can pretty much assure you he's playing for league minimum. Same goes for Wolyniec, who's living with his folks on Staten Island.

    Sometimes I wonder why I even try to explain this stuff.
     
  24. jack921

    jack921 New Member

    Jul 10, 2000
    This reminds me of the stadium threads where there's always someone insisting that the MetroStars could already have their own stadium if they would just forget the Harrison development project and instead build a cheap stadium like Crew Stadium. It doesn't matter how many times people explain that this is not the middle of Ohio and you can't get the land and the road access for just a Crew-like stadium here.
     
  25. eric d

    eric d Member

    Sep 9, 1998

    I think you posted this in the wrong thread.

    Vistula, as much as I hate too admit, you are 100% dead on. Too many people here have no clue how an MLS team operates, yet they pretend they are the greatest armchair GM in the history of the world. It's a shame most of the posters here who had half a brain have been chased by this new breed of nitwits.

    Soccerfan is exhbit A,B, and C. He wants to trade a promising 18 year old and our 4th striker for a player that is not even playing in MLS. That says it all right there.
     

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