Wolyniec fined, suspended

I happen to see McCardme last night and the man looked a-okay! I mean he looked pissed but he always does. Oh well Wolyniec got what he got.

 

When a player is suspended is he suspended without pay? Wolyniec gets fined $500 for drawing blood, knocking a tooth through a lip and causing a concussion. Garcia, from Kansas City, gets $1,000 for simulation which, as far as I know, caused no physical injury. I understand why MLS fined Garcia so much, but man.

 

McCarty should have been carded for his reclass challenge on Howard and for his scissor tackle on Wolyniec. He got what he deserved - the guy is a hack.

The Crew would be better off if he couldn't play this weekend.

 

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McCarty deserved a red for his foul on Howard.

 

Yeah, I saw these highlights, this punishment isnt fair at all.

MLS seriously has their head up their asses this year. Sure, fine Wolyniec and Garcia if you like, but make the punishment fit the crime for god's sake.

 

I'd be willing to be the Metros pitch in to cover Wolywhatever's fine. Hell, Howard's about to come into some money, he'll probably pay it by himself.

 

If McCarty would have been issued the Red Card for his stupid foul first, then the whole elbow incident would never have happened in the Golden Goal period.

You live by the sword, you die by the sword.

McCarty got his. Nothing more.

But Both men should have been fined regardless that there was a yellow card on McCarty & if there was no card on Wolyniec.

Bad job by MLS.

 

I wonder if the player's salary is a factor when deciding how lmuch to fine him? Woly's probably pretty close to a minimum salary guy, so that $500 will hurt him as much, if not more, than Garcia's $1000 fine.

Anyway, it was worth every penny.

 

I hate these whining pathetic losers. Half of you were not even calling for McCarty to get a red card for the foul on Wollyniec after the game, you were pissed off about his contact with Howard. Now that Wollyniec is suspended you come here singing a different tune and say that McCarty shoulda been red carded for his challenge on him. Get a life.

You know what, the contact on Howard was not a red card offense and the tackle on Wollyniec sure as hell wasn't either. Wollyniec's punishment is an absolutely fair punishment for a young player who wasn't smart enough lost his cool in a physical game. Hopefully it sends him a message, and the rest of the league a message. Most importantly hopefully it sends Bob Bradley a message that his teams can't get away with that shit anymore.

 

Well I for one have no bias in this exact situation, so I was singing no "tune" after the game. I saw the replays, and if one is going to get fined, the other should have. Just like Ruiz should have been fined for swinging at Garcia and Garcia should have been fined for simulation.
The point is that MLS needs to start being fair, and not just fine one dirty player in each game.

 

You've got it all wrong -- Woly didn't lose his cool, if he did he would have retaliated immediately, when the ref's attention was focused on him, and probably would have been red carded. He actually did the smart thing, which is to let some time pass and then get revenge when the ref's attention is elsewhere. He avoids an immediate red card and the Metros don't have to play shorthanded. If the game hadn't been televised, he would have escaped punishment altogether. As it is, the Metros lose their 4th forward, whose role seems to be to come in late in the game and run hard. Like I said earlier, his suspension for sticking up for both himself and one of the team's stars is worth it.

McCarty's "tackles" on Howard and Woly were cheap and dangerous. I don't care whether they were red card offenses or yellow card offenses. If you're going to play it that way, you better be able to take some payback.

 

First off, I don't think anyone can say any action is "smart" that leads to a two game suspension. Second What games this season aren't televised? You are reaching for straws there, buddy.
Third, McCarty was able to "take some payback" he was back on the field befiore the game ended.
Lastly, his McCarty's tackle on Wooly may have been dangerous but was by no means cheap. He's going at the ball and gets their late. What is cheap is winding up and elbowing someone in the face when you are nowhere near the ball. Justify it all you want, Wooly's hack in retaliation to McCarty was an example of a player who lost his cool, it was cheap, it was dangerous, and it shouldn't be accepted. And that is why MLS suspended him two games.

 

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the ref in this game looked baffled the entire game, both ways. it's a cliche to say he lost basic control of the game, but that's what he did. i mean, he didn't even call a foul when wolyniec nailed mccarty. seems that either the refs are incompetent (possible) or the league has way too many no-talent hatchet men (also possible).

 

hnag is about 150% correct here.

A "red card" is not just whatever you don't like to see happen to a player you like. A "red card" is issued for SPECIFIC VIOLATIONS.

As for the tackle on Wolyniec, excuse the hell out of me but have you ever watched the EPL or Serie A? There are ten tackles like that per game.

McCarty got there late, ended up taking the guy down (the clown who called it a "scissors" is just stupid) and got a caution from the game official. His team got a close range DFK as well.

But that wasn't enough for Wolyniec. Apparently he feels that referee game sanctions are not enough and that whenever you are fouled in a match it's a good diea to violently assault the offending player in a manner which would get you six months in jail anywhere else.

Ridiculous to even whine about it. He got exactly what he deserved.

 

Sorry hang, but 1)bullsh|t an d2)bullsh|t

 

Jesus Hang, watch the frickin tape. He comes in with his trailing leg and scissors the guy. He could have snapped him in two. WTF league do you play in where that wasn't a red?

 

I left the bright red nose and floppy shoes at home today, but I guess this is me.

Front leg gets him, trail leg gets him in the back of the knees. McCarty rolls forward bringing the guy down.

Bill, you were one of the ones that was going absolutely apeshit on the Kovalenko tackle. McCarty's tackle was at least as bad.

 

Is it worth it to lose your 4th forward, a guy who gets ten minutes a game, for 2 games in exchange for something that (1) shows a lot of team cohesiveness and probably adds to team chemistry and (2) may make Mr. McCarty a little less aggressive (and I'm being kind here) the next time the Metros play the Crew?

I'm not arguing that Woly should not be punished -- he did something against the rules, got caught, and he'll pay the price. That's life. I guess my point is that, here , maybe the price is worth it for the message he delivered.

I also really couldn't care less that McCarty didn't get a red. It doesn't matter to me whether the ref saw his "tackles" or not. But that doesn't change the fact that grabbing Howard and pulling him when Howard is off his feet was cheap (and something you don't see in Serie A or the EPL). You can "justify" his tackle on Woly as just getting there a little late, to me there was no way he was getting the ball, he was trying to get the man, and could have very easily injured Woly in the process. Just because the ref missed it doesn't mean those fouls go unpunished.

 

dds: You weren't the first guy who used the word "scissors" so at the time I wasn't referring to you. I DID look at the tape and I didn't see it this way at all. It was a sloppy, late and reckless tackle and he got a caution for it, as was appropriate, IMO.

As for the dope now trying to say that what Wolyniec did was a positive thing and will help "team cohesveness", add to "team chemistry", make McCarty "less aggressive" and is overall a great thing to have done because of the "message" it relayed, you're just insane.

And your theory about a foul receiving a whistle, a DFK and a yellow not being "punished" is just short of absurd. Not as absurd as your theory about how a reckless tackle deserves a punch in the mouth, but close.

If your team or any team needs some punk off the bench to cold-cock another player in order to be "cohesive" then they're just the cheapass punks we knew they'd become the day Bradley took over.

But one only needed to see a formerly promising young talent like Ziadie writhing on the ground holding his face and shrieking in agony over being barely touched by that well-known thug Brian McBride to know what's become of the Metros.

Sad indeed.

 

Why are all the mutt fans coming over here with their tirades? Heck, it was MLS that made (or didn't make) the fine/suspension on a mutt player - go sob over in the MLS forum.

I was unable to attend but someone at work stated the blow to Chad reminded him of the clubbing Jaime Moreno put on Matt Chulis years ago (which went unpunished and led to a game winning goal if memory serves me). If that was the case, then a fine and suspension was warranted.

Chad is a thug, but evidently MLS believed he wasn't worth fining.

 

PS: If you MetroFire fans think that an elbow in the mouth from a coward who didn't have the man-stones to look him in the eye will "scare" McCarty, or make him back down "next time the Crew plays the Metros" dream on.

Whatever else he is, McCarty isn't a little pussyboy like Wolyniec. He'd better pray to God almighty and all the saints that he NEVER sets foot on a pitch with McCarty again.

 

There is less than no chance that a cheap shot to the mouth by a 140lb punk will make McCarty less aggressive next time he plays the Metros. I hope he gets the start and goes the full 90 just so I can laugh at the righteous anger coming from the metros as he does the exact same thing.

 

Unfortunately, that isn't really the first time "Wolly Bully" has shown his colors. I've watched a number of Metro games on Shootout and his actions against McCarty were just 2 steps above his normal level of play. I can't cite specific instances, but even on TV's limted frame he was big on shoves and elbows as a methodology.

I was at the game and I didn't like McCarty's play on Howard, but it didn't appear he tried to injure him as much as it was sloppy late action ON THE BALL. The foul on 'Wolly Bully" was late and hard, but I didn't get any of the rolling scissors idea DDs talks about. He got a deserved and STUPID card - which is one of his weak points. We don't call him McCardme without reason - but his foul was within reason vs. play ON THE BALL.

If "Wooly Bully" gets away with a blatant foul, designed to injure, AWAY FROM PLAY to avoid detection - he deserves everything he gets. WHat comes after the Crap he pulled - Kidney punches with metal gloves, baseball spikes for the enforcers, steel toed boots for forwards?

Wolyniec's foul was just plain cowardly and a pure cheap shot. There was no ball or play to hinder him and he had McCardme lined up against the goal and back line. If he had a problem he could take it to the parking lot vs. the Chicken Shat way he tried to hide behind "the game". This coward would have recieved a major league penalty/suspension in Hockey, much less Soccer.