Wizards vs FC Dallas July 3 7:30pm p/i/p [R]

Discussion in 'Sporting Kansas City' started by Buzz Killington, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Back on the road after the stinker against New York. Espinoza should at least be back with the team, whether he plays or not is another question. Is Auvray back? Does he replace Arnaud if he is? Does Besler or Escobar get the start next to Jimmy after Hohlbein's howler? Do we get our asses kicked again down there?

    I'm not exactly feeling good about this game. Early prediction is 4-0 Dallas with Cunningham hitting the hattrick again, Ferreria getting the other and Hartman laughing at us as he does little for the shutout.
     
  2. boomersooner027

    May 13, 2004
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahamas
    Anyone coming down for this one?
     
  3. cjgwizard

    cjgwizard Member

    Apr 25, 2006
    LSP, section 129
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another road game, another suspension for Davy, another loss. We can only hope it isn't as ugly as last year's trip to Dallas. Moving on........

    I can honestly say I am glad the 4th of July weekend game is on the road. My dog + fireworks - me being at home for dog to climb on/drool all over = some torn up sh!t in the house. Somehow I don't think I will have this luck again after the new stadium opens....:(
     
  4. NorthbankHighbury

    Jan 25, 2009
    Liberty, MO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    At least if Davy doesn't play we have a chance of him not getting sent off again.

    HA HA HA!! Sam Pierron picked a shitty year to do 15 road trips ... him and maybe 3-4 others tops.
     
  5. Roush

    Roush Member

    Dec 19, 2001
    Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The wife and I were planning on it. At least, we WERE planning on it until the Wizards recent turn of shit form. Now we're hanging out here, and probably not even watching the match..
     
  6. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Well, if we forget about the last 30 minutes of the last game, we should be alright, right?
     
  7. kafka

    kafka New Member

    May 31, 2010
    Olathe
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't need to go that far to watch a bad team. I can go to a Royals or T-Bones game and what poor play.
     
  8. Ihateusernames

    May 16, 2007
    Merriam, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know some of you don't like mixing it up (other than our defensive revolving door - no pun intended), but as the current players aren't doing it, dare we try something new? I mean, it couldn't hurt.
     
  9. Abracadabra

    Abracadabra BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 11, 2006
    Olathe, Kansas
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Two that I know of. I thought about it, but I need a dead weekend once in a while; I don't know how Sam does it.
     
  10. cjgwizard

    cjgwizard Member

    Apr 25, 2006
    LSP, section 129
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Preaching to the choir.............

    I think we need a divine intervention. :(

    I'm thinking 3-0 loss or something close to it. I also predict I quit watching by halftime. That's the beauty of road games at least....simply change the channel if it gets too sickening to watch. I hope like hell they prove me wrong, but until something drastic changes, I just don't see it. The season isn't quite half over, so there is realistically time to turn it around, but the mental aspect has got to change in a hugetastic hurry.
     
  11. Moufwash

    Moufwash New Member

    May 26, 2009
    Prairie Village
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    -----Smith--------Karama-----
    ------------Wolff-------------
    -Espinoza--Auvray---Jewsbury-
    Harrington-Besler-Conrad-Myers
    ------------Puma-------------
     
  12. Felixx219

    Felixx219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 8, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is that your prediction or hope?

    I would like to see Bunbury in for Wolff.
     
  13. Moufwash

    Moufwash New Member

    May 26, 2009
    Prairie Village
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    hope...

    Bunbury is possible, you could really put Smith/Kamara/Bunbury/Wolff/Davy(when avalible) in any of those 3 advanced spots. I just think this would play to our strengths a bit more. Really, Espinoza could be an attacker as well, he has shown just as well in space as anyone else.
     
  14. Felixx219

    Felixx219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 8, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think at this point, we need to give Bunbury as many minutes as possible. I think he has the potential to be a good striker in this league if given the opportunity.

    I respect Wolff and his body of work over the course of his career with the team and with the Nats but I think it is time for him to hang up the cleats. Let him finish out the season as an attacking option off the bench because he doesnt have the gas to go the full 90 anymore. I have probably been more lenient on him than anyone but he is getting to the point where he is damn near a traffic cone on the field at times.

    Maintaining Wolff in the lineup reminds me of what Onalfo use to do with Morsink and others. I just dont understand the decision making process or what goes through their heads that playing certain players is the right decision. If the fans can see it, why cant the coaches?
     
  15. NorthbankHighbury

    Jan 25, 2009
    Liberty, MO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Let me just say this isn't just PV. Coaches is the perfect term here, I was at Swope on day and casually heard one of the coaches mention that 'Wolff was our best player' ...

    I do think Wolff is unfairly targetted, I know its a minority opinion. I don't think he is playing well but he is at the same level as the remainder of the team and is being scapegoated a bit. I would switch him out for Teal though ... we are playing for spoils right now, might as well give the lad some experience at center forward and NOT on the wing. This means Davy or Kei taking up that right wing slot ... not sure PV wants to give up Kei's goals, and Kei can't cross a ball anymore than I can grow a third nut.

    That right side needs some help. Smith can play right. Short of Claudio ... maybe time to give Beesley a run as well?
     
  16. kafka

    kafka New Member

    May 31, 2010
    Olathe
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would like to see the players with the highest work rate on the field. Wolff does exert the effort--his work rate is good. My problem with Wolff is that he is what he does--chase and pressure--is something that any player can do--I don't know that he is any better at that than _______________ (fill in the blank) at chasing and pressuring. Can Wollf do more than that? I don't know what Vermes has defined his role as....(if it is defined).
     
  17. j_m_t

    j_m_t Member

    Aug 27, 2005
    KC
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You've seen SMith shoot? right?

    he has no business up front, he needs to be back in midfield to pass the ball up front to someone (sometimes anyone) who can score.

    SMiths finishing is very lacking imo
     
  18. Moufwash

    Moufwash New Member

    May 26, 2009
    Prairie Village
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There to set up Kamara, as Kamaras pass might be worse that Smith's shot. In fairness to Smith, has actually had some good distace rips, a matter of inches or less on more than a few. I would argue everyones finishing is terrible, Karmara has 1 "finisher" goal (vs Philly). I will go out on a limb and say Smith would likely look a better finisher if he could set him self up like he has for the implied finishers.

    Pushing Smith up top forces the use of his speed, and gives him the option to drop into the midfield and float without having defensive responsiblity. Pairing him with Kamara up top will force movement off the ball as well which we arent getting right now. Putting him at midfield would be a defensive liability, which I dont think we can afford with the current squad. Maybe a christmas tree type look more than 2 forwards.

    Someone who "can" score? I would guess you mean Kamara, as Smith w/ A goal is the tied for 2nd leading scorer...
     
  19. NorthbankHighbury

    Jan 25, 2009
    Liberty, MO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    You put Smith up front and you have one isolated player because most of what we have going on starts or involves him -- guessing he is our assists leader on the season?

    His finishing is fine, in fact he really made a name for himself as a youth player as a devastating finisher -- but almost all his shots for the Wizards come from range and those tend not to score that often. We don't create enough chances within the penalty area for any forward to score many.

    Tis one of the things that pisses me off with Davy getting reds, he is one of the few others that can make a goal for a different player.
     
  20. YilmazOrhan

    YilmazOrhan Well Brian, I hit it first time...

    Jun 18, 2006
    Suburbia, Kansas
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nothing against him, but Josh Wolff is not our future, and we don't have much of a present. Might as well give Chhetri a runout, IMO.
     
  21. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Wolff is definitely not our future. He's peaked and he's on his decline, and his age is getting up there. He hasn't been in good form in awhile and his years are numbered.

    That being said, Wolff is still very talented. I'd like to see Chhetri or Bunbury start and then Wolff come in in the 65th or 70th. I think Wolff's skills would shine a bit more if he had fresh legs and the defense has already been running for over an hour. That way, Chhetri and Bunbury start getting some meaningful play time and Wolff can come in and hopefully be a little more effective.
     
  22. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    we certainly couldn't score any less.
     
  23. Hexenmeister

    Hexenmeister Member

    Aug 9, 2000
    Kearney, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    I've been a little behind on the injury status of players. Is Auvray supposed to be coming back? Where has Hirsig been? Still injured?

    I'd like to see us trying playing with two holding midfielders in Auvray and Hirsig. We obviously don't have a central playmaker on this team so why even bother? Our backline needs all the help it can get.

    Put Smith and Arnaud (or Wolff given Davy's suspension) on the wings and let Kamara and Chhetri or Kamara and Bunbury start up top. Let's play like Greece for a while, counter-attacking with 10 men behind the ball. Win a couple of games 1-0 just to build some freaking confidence.
     
  24. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Auvray's on his way back, I'd say in the next two weeks he'll be back. As for Hirsig, he's not injured, he's just not favored in Vermes mind it seems.


    Wolff is horrible on the wing.
     
  25. Hexenmeister

    Hexenmeister Member

    Aug 9, 2000
    Kearney, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Great, we have a #10 who can't even make it into the starting line-up. Another reason to love this team. :rolleyes:

    Unless his form dropped considerably, Hirsig was one of our few players last season who could actually maintain possession for any length of time.

    Yes, I know. That's why Arnaud was my first choice. I guess Zusi might be a better option in Davy's absence.
     

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