Will we see Capano/Thorrington play for the Fire in '07?

Discussion in 'Chicago Fire' started by Der Stich, Jan 12, 2007.

  1. Der Stich

    Der Stich Member+

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Will Craig Capano and/or John Thorrington play for the Fire in 2007? Does Capano have anything left to offer after seemingly being on the shelf forever? Has anyone ever seen John Thorrington and John O'Brien in the same place at the same time? What are the contract situations for each player?
     
  2. Wolves1935

    Wolves1935 New Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Prospect Heights
    According to today's Sun Times - see News 1/12 link - Thorrington will not be back.
     
  3. Der Stich

    Der Stich Member+

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Thanks for the info. That link wasn't included in the news list.
     
  4. Wolves1935

    Wolves1935 New Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Prospect Heights
  5. ciudadcentral

    ciudadcentral New Member

    May 27, 2005
    Chi - ca - go!
    Re: Will we see Capano/Thorrington play for the Fire in '07?
    Maybe in the U11 half-time game.

    Just kidding! I wish them the best. JT was one hell of a good sport - showing up at The Globe w/ the fans to watch games when he was rehabbing an injury. May you regain your top form, only to lose it when playing the Fire.
     
  6. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    We now have John Thorrington version 2.0: Ryan Coiner.
     
  7. kebzach

    kebzach Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    Greenfield, WI
  8. bing1985

    bing1985 Member

    Jun 14, 2004
    Near West ChiSuburbs
    The only chance we'll see JT face the fire is in the early rounds of the open cup. I really don't see him getting a ride with another MLS club.
     
  9. alf

    alf Member+

    Jun 29, 1999
    Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    I'm sure the only chance you'll see Thornington is if you take your car to JiffyLube.
     
  10. PhantomTollbooth

    PhantomTollbooth New Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Appleton, WI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Will anyone anywhere see either of these two play soccer anywhere again?
     
  11. chimac4u

    chimac4u Red Card

    Aug 9, 2006
    Capano could be a real sleeper for somebody this coming season. He's been hurt a few times, but he's one of the most talented guys in the league.
     
  12. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Wow. I can't believe someone actually posted this. That is, unless this poster is either:

    a) High,

    or

    b) Kidding.
     
  13. chimac4u

    chimac4u Red Card

    Aug 9, 2006
    How about:

    c)serious

    or

    d)correct

    I never said Capano is one of the best players in the league, I said one of the most talented. From purely a talent perspective, how can you deny that? The guy has been considered one of the top young Americans since he was in diapers. However, he's been hurt numerous times over the past few years and has never been able to show any of that talent. At the end of the 2005 season he was starting to get some serious playing time and often appeared to be one of the team's best players. Then, he got hurt early in 2006 unfortunately.

    So yes, Capano has to be considered one of the most talented young players in the league. He's been a star at bradenton academy, USA U-17 team and USA U-20 team. Also, I could be mistaken, but I could've sworn that he was like the youngest player ever drafted into the MLS b/c he had such an amazing reputation already early in high school.

    So please tell me where I'm wrong in my statement from the earlier post.
     
  14. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    IF [and this is a MASSIVE "IF] your opinion had any truth, FCT would've selected "one of the most talented players" in their expansion draft. [How could ANYONE pass up all this talent, right?] But they didn't. In addition, he's never done anything of note throughout his professional career. [1 goal, ZERO assists in 654 career minutes]

    Moreover, IF he were one of the most talented players, he would've already emerged as a viable professional player, injuries or no. He's had HALF A DECADE to accomplish anything of note in this league. But he hasn't. [Again: 1 Goal, ZERO assists in 654 career minutes]

    Or, more likely, he never HAD any of this purported "talent."

    Why? There are dozens of young players, both past and present, that have accomplished more than he. We could list them, chapter and verse, but you apparently have "Cripple" Capano's zipper in your face.

    And he got cut from the U-21s, in favor of then-college students. Think about that for a moment: A professional player in "Cripple" Capano being beaten out for an age group national team in favor of amateurs. That should NEVER HAPPEN, if he has all this "talent." But it did.

    Taken another way, that was akin to a high level corporate executive for a Fortune 500 company being fired in favor of an intern or a temp. Or a General in the Army being replaced by a low-ranking NCO. It just shouldn't happen to Capano, IF he was indeed as talented as you claim. But it did.

    Actually this says more about the poor state of MLS scouting than it does about his ability.

    In so many ways, you're sadly mistaken. But feel free to continue to polesmoke a guy who can't even get himself [and keep himself] healthy. And feel free to celebrate the promise of never-fulfilled potential.

    Look for Capano to be making an appearance for the Des Moines Menace or Rochester Rhinos soon. That is, if Ellinger can keep himself from adding Capano to his club's roster. [Hey, maybe the FIRE can dupe that dope Ellinger into trading us something of value, if we dangle "Cripple" Capano as bait...]
     
  15. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. That was a bit much to go through just to slag Craig Capano, wasn't it?
     
  16. Never underestimate Khan's ability to foist his own inadequacies off on someone else.
     
  17. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    Perhaps. But the other poster's bizarre polesmoking of Capano is an irritant to me. I'd like to think that we're not like many DCU fans that idolize each and every player on our team, whether said player is good or not. I'd like to think that we as a fandom are smarter than that. I suppose I was slagging the other poster moreso than Capano himself.

    Personally, I think Capano needs a new address if he's ever going to make a living as a professional soccer player. And I hope he does well in the future. But up to this point, he's done little to nothing in his career.
     
  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Evidently. Though you may be taking it to an extreme.

    Maybe. FWIW, you seem to go too far the other way often, proving once again that there's balance in nature, I guess.

    He was a talented kid at one point, I don't think there was any question about that. One of the brightest lights ever? No, I don't think so. I think he was under-utilized back in 2004 or 2005, whenever it was that he got a chance to play in a game at SF, played well (I think he had a goal or something) and then we didn't see him again.

    There was a point at which Chris Doran and I had an argument because I said that I'd seen enough of at least a couple of players to know that they weren't the solution, but that I would like to see more of Capano.

    Then he got hurt and hurt again and he probably got hurt clicking his mouse just now reading this. But he's a good kid and was a talented player. Maybe one of those kids who was really good at a young age but who didn't continue along the development curve as he aged. Now we may never know what might have been.

    But I agree, a new address would probably be best for him.
     
  19. nick

    nick Member+

    Nov 23, 1998
    Potomac Falls, Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  20. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    I disagree:

    1. When Sir Dave the short was f********ing up royally last season, I criticized him. But when he got the team to play better, I credited him for bringing in a trophy and getting the team to climb the table.

    2. When Justin Mapp looked lost for much of his first two seasons here, I criticized him. But when he has his [now-annual] post-July renaissance(sp.), I laud him for his ability.

    3. When "Big Cash" $anneh was perpetually injured and handcuffed the team salary cap-wise for all of 2005 and the first part of 2006, I criticized him. But when he started playing well, I credited him for his play, and for his part in turning the season around.


    I consider myself more balanced than anything else. When a player/coach/FO person deserves critique, he should get it, inasmuch as he should be lauded when he does well. This is my right and responsibility as a fan of this club.
     
  21. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What I meant was, your critiques get a bit too scathing and personal sometimes. Not to mention over the top.
     
  22. Es Brennt

    Es Brennt Member+

    Feb 25, 2003
    Shermer, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Oh brother.:rolleyes:
     
  23. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    :D Indeed.

    But for the one or two threads one can see on BS that touches on any of the above topics, there are many, many more of:

    "Bruce Arena is the greatest coach ever in US history [Even after his childish behavior, his failed roster contruction, and his flawed strategery in Germany],"

    "Jeff Agoos was a great defender for the US [Even after his giveaway to Jamaica @ RFK, him getting torched by Moreno in a friendly, him getting sent off @ Azteca, his getting torched and scoring own goal in 2K2, etc...] ,"

    "Eddie Pope should still start for the US [even after his form noticably dropped after 2K2],"

    "Esky [and his measly career 20 goals and myriad of injuries] should be in the national team,"

    and so on.

    Without providing numbers, I'd confidently predict that you'd find more posts/threads that contain examples of the topics I posted than any of yours. Which, in turn elucidates a pattern of DCU fanboyism and polesmoking.
     
  24. chimac4u

    chimac4u Red Card

    Aug 9, 2006
    Once again, when you speak purely of accomplishment you're talking about best player or most accomplished player. Talent is not always the same thing. I've acknowledged that he hasn't translated the talent into production yet, but you don't seem to understand that there is a big difference between the two.
     
  25. alf

    alf Member+

    Jun 29, 1999
    Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    And you don't understand that you are an idiot and wrong.
     

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