Based on copa libertadores and CCL results, Chile, Colombia, Mexico, Uruguay, Paraguay are very close to each other, so MLS would probably do as well vs top Colombian/Uruguay teams as MLS does vs Mexican teams. Mexico is the 2nd or 3rd best paid league in CL. But recently Mexico has not been the 3rd best league. So money is important but is not all.
There is a thread here that does this. You may not like it but is the best we have over a 5 year span. It is not perfect, specifically since it does not change the number of teams from year to year.
Well based on results, Canada should get more, so take 1 from the USA and giving it to Canada you would still end up with 5 MLS (Technically 2 non mls can/usa teams could win the spots).
@MK3owner @CBusAlex Here are some numbers for you 2 to continue your dick measuring contest. Mexico ranks 10, argentina 14, usa 23, chile 31; in average payrol. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-England-earning-average-2-3million-year.html
So Costa Rica and USA are pretty equal. Based on CCL results is hard to make a good argument that one is better than the other IMO. Not much difference in coefficients after last year. http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/concacaf-champions-league-coefficient.1187575/page-21
Sometimes a Bolivian/Peruvian/Venezuelan team does make it out of the group, making the quarterfinals is more difficult, so would a MLS/Costa Rican team, just not very often. (I think only Bolivia makes quarters once in a while). MLS#3/CR#3 would have a hard time making the group just like Peru and Venezuela #3.
Based on Copa Libertadores results that past three seasons, Liga MX is better than everyone but Argentina and Brazil. Only in Brazil do players make more money. The past three season (2013, 2014, 2015) points per game for each league: Argentina 1.63 Brazil 1.59 Mexico 1.57 Colombia 1.47 Paraguay 1.40 Bolivia 1.33 Ecuardor 1.29 Uruguay 1.24 Chile 1.24 Peru 0.93 Venezuela 0.64 In the CONCACAF Champions League here are numbers: Liga MX 2.29 MLS 2.03 (includes Canadian teams) Costa Rica 1.84 Guatemala 1.50 Honduras 1.21 Panama 0.67 El Salvador 0.64 Carib 0.39 Nicaragua 0.33 Belize hasn't played any games I would rank the leagues in the Americas as follows: Argentina Brazil Liga MX MLS Colombia Paraguay Bolivia Ecuador Costa Rica Uruguay Chile Guatemala Peru Honduras Venezuela Panama El Salvador Carib Nicaragua Belize From top to bottom only Argentina, Brazil, and Liga MX are better than MLS. Overall quality of a league should be based on more than the top teams in the league. There are not many leagues around the world that are as competitive as they are in Argentina, Brazil, Mexico and MLS. Most are top heavy with 2-3 clubs dominating league play. The bottom third in Liga MX and MLS are better than the bottom third in, say, Colombia. I would probably take the bottom half of Liga MX over the bottom half of the Argentine league (if it had 18 teams). But to keep the thread somewhat on topic, I'll say again...the thread needs to be renamed "Will a Liga MX club win Copa Libertadores before a club from any CONCACAF league wins the CONCACAF Champions League?"
MLS teams will get eaten alive if they ever played Libertadores. Its just a whole new beast compared to playing to playing teams in Central America and so on.
Though i dont think well ever see a MLS team in Libertadores unless they start winning CCL titles left and right and surpass Mexican teams.
Any rank that has Argentina ahead of Brazil is wrong. As I said over 5 years Colombia, Paraguay, Mexico, Chile, Uruguay are practically identical, so MLS/Costa Rica would not do as well as those leagues. MLS/CR would fall somewhere between Ecuador/Bolivia and Peru/Venezuela. http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads...n-la-libertadores.526674/page-5#post-32175938
I think MLS and Costa Rica are close enough together that there can't be four CONMEBOL leagues in between them. Assuming the CONMEBOL leagues are in the correct order relative to each other, I might move MLS down three spots so it went MLS, Ecuador, Costa Rica.
I hope you watch Wednesday's game to see if another step is taken towards that. It's gonna be pretty piff. Also, people here need to keep in mind the fact that Mexico are not allowed to send their best teams to the Liberators of America Cup. So it's pretty much a wash in trying to compare it appropriately to the rest of South America. The Ferrari was disallowed from participating in this edition, and the next and previous, simply for being too good. Imagine if they did participate, who knows what would happen.
I don't think MLS and the Costa Rican league are close to each other. Alajuela, Herediano, and on their day Saprissa can win MLS. But, from top to bottom, a MLS team can win the Costa Rican league.
I've already said Liga MX doesn't send their best teams to Copa Libertadores. Well, that's if you think the league (with playoffs like MLS) consistently/actually sends their best team into the CONCACAF Champions League. But like you imply, at best, the 5-7th best teams in Liga MX do very well against the top 1-3 (in the case of ARG/BRA 1-5/6) teams from the CONMENBOL nations. Y0u've actually helped my case that Liga MX is easily the 3rd best league in the Americas. Imagine if teams 1-4 got in the CL!?! I would rather put money on a Liga MX winning Copa Libertadores before any team from a CONCACAF league winning the CCL. I did watch the games the from this past week. Guarani looked horrible against River Plate. Tigres, definitely not the better side, looked better against Internacional. I probably won't watch the River Plate game, but will most likely watch Tigres lose to Inter (goes against the Gold Cup semifinal that should/will have Mexico vs TnT). Lastly, I'm assuming you're thinking Club America is a Ferrari. Seriously? Well, then I'm Ryan Reynolds. If you said Audi, I'd let you slide.
5 Years?!? Most people change careers every five years. How much has a professional soccer team changed in five years? How long is a career in soccer (not five years)? Oh, wait. You're one of those that will say the Costa Rican league is better than MLS because they won CCL a decade ago. Well Uruguay has a better national team than Costa Rica because they've won two World Cups. How do I make the face with the smirk and rolling eyes?
Link to where i said that. The coefficient in this forum is what says CR and USA are very close to each other. The difference between CR and The USA is much smaller than the difference between the USA and Mexico. 5 years is used to smooth out how countries do well some years and bad some others. FIFA uses 4 years for NTs
We be talking club football son. Mexico clubs do make the CWC, because of concacaf. Put a Colombian club or Chilean club in the CCL and they would have a great chance on making the CWC. * Mexico does have a handicap of sending the liguilla finalists to the CCL.
We discussed those numbers already, holmes. That list is an even bigger joke than the current FIFA rankings? I literally LOLed when I read this. Its pretty evident you dont watch much Futbol outside of the MLS. The MLS is clearly inferior to alot more than those 3 leagues. If its your opinion, thats fine, as absurd as it is. But you should state it as such. Always talking about your "bottom third" like its your saving grace. Truth is, your top dogs, cant win anything internationally, how are your minnows better than other leagues minnows? Even if they're on par with the your best, that still means they're not that good. Its nothing but wild assumptions by you. I think its a tossup between the Argentine leagues, bottom half and Liga MX. I might even say they're better, but that would just be an assumption. You keep on harping on about , when will a Liga MX win a Copa Libertadores, as a subtle dig at Liga MX. If you're really that interested then start a thread.