Will Memo get traded to Chivas?

Discussion in 'LA Galaxy' started by Emile, Nov 26, 2004.

  1. Emile

    Emile Member

    Oct 24, 2001
    dead in a ditch
    I doubt Chivas has much interest in high college draft picks, and there are probably only two players in the league that they are drooling over - Memo and Jose Burciaga. I don't think KC will move Burciaga, so I'm wondering what the feeling is with Memo in LA.

    Would people be satisfied if they traded him for the #2 pick overall and Matt Taylor? That's a pretty decent return on the investment of a #8 pick, although I'd imagine people would hate to see him blow up for Chivas.
     
  2. The Cadaver

    The Cadaver It's very quiet here.

    Oct 24, 2000
    La Cañada, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. That trade is no good for LAG. The talent pool for the draft is not strong so the #2 pick is of marginal value. As to Matt Taylow - who's to say he is an upgrade over the other mediocre strikers already on the roster?

    2. Besides, I would NEVER trade with Chivas - its too easy for fans of a particular player to defect to another team in the same building. Its like Mets-Yankees, Cubs-White Sox, etc. - they almost never do deals for fear of helping a team in the same market and losing fans of a particular player.

    So I would let Chivas drool, if that's what they're doing. Which probably means Dougie Executive of the Year would bite at this.
     
  3. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That would be a great trade Matt Taylor is way better then Memo and its just his first year
     
  4. ChrisE

    ChrisE Member

    Jul 1, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    I have trouble imagining any time in the future of the league, provided a draft exists, that the #2 pick is not hugely valuable. Previous #2 picks have been Chad Marshall, Ricardo Clark, Taylor Twellman, Ali Curtis, and Nick Garcia. Memo isn't nearly worth the #2 pick, but I can't imagine the Galaxy not being interested in that trade.

    Also, I dare say this year's draft will be at least as strong as last years.
     
  5. aaron90025

    aaron90025 New Member

    May 1, 2003
    W.Los Angeles
    memo for taylor and ez.
     
  6. SoulflyTribeFC

    SoulflyTribeFC New Member

    Mar 24, 2002
    First, there's no guarantee what Chivas is interested in. General consensus was they'd take Jonny Walker because he's bilingual and he's used to playing with Hispanic players but they avoided him like the plague on draft day.

    Second, I don't understand why everybody is so quick to give up on Memo. The guy is what 18, 19? He's still young. He still has to develop and he needs time to do so. He played like crap this year most of the time he stepped on the field but a lot of it had to do with training. He wasn't taking it very seriously at the beginning of the year.

    Let's not send him out of LA like we did Chris Armas or DMB who went on to become big stars and national team players because that's the potential i think Memo has.

    And Matt Taylor??? We already have Alan Gordon, Ngwenya and Moreno as young forward prospects and got rid of Torres because there was no more room up front and y'all want Matt Taylor????
     
  7. 562nation

    562nation Member

    May 10, 2004
    (562)areacode LA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    agreed memo is young and just needs to be developed into a better player, kids still young
     
  8. dashiel

    dashiel Member+

    Jul 15, 2000
    orange county
    memo only being 18 isn't an excuse. beasley, donovan, covney, olsen, gaven, adu, et al, are/were young players who contributed from an early age in MLS. even when their physical development or ability to read the game wasn't great, they hustled and added something to the team.

    every time memo gets on the field, he looks lazy, untalented and uninterested. he believes his own hype, and hasn't done anything in MLS to show he warrants it. if what you say about him not taking training seriously is true, that in itself shows his not an MLS caliber player.

    i suspect, once an MLS team has to pay for him, he'll last no more than a season before being shipped off to the a-leaague or indoor soccer.
     
  9. SoulflyTribeFC

    SoulflyTribeFC New Member

    Mar 24, 2002
    Well, we traded away DMB, we tried hard for Landon but the league wouldn't give him to us, it's debatable how much Freddy Adu helped DC this season, but Gaven is a stud.

    I'm not using age as an excuse for anything. But just because someone has shined before their 20th birthday doesn't mean they won't eventually. I don't know how old Carlos Bocanegra was before he joined MLS but he went from an unknown to a national team starter in his 20s. Memo is being brought along well, and if he continues to have opportunities with the Galaxy and the under 20s, he will develop.

    IIRC the perception with Clint Mathis when he was here was kinda the same, older player should be playing a lot better than he was and pretty much right after he parted ways with the Galaxy (after he was robbed from us more like it) his career took off and I think he was older than 20.
     
  10. cl_hanley

    cl_hanley New Member

    Sep 3, 2001
    Costa Mesa
    All the players you mention have shown varying degrees of qualities that Memo shows a startling lack of, namely: intensity and motivation. I would add in commitment, and Mathis is appropriate as a comparison to Memo in this respect. They are both bench sitters and while Mathis has certainly shown flashes of brilliance, I wouldn't say that his career has taken off. At this point, can we say he has had a successful career in Germany?

    Intensity, motivation, and commitment are not things that get suddenly handed out one day. You have them or you don't. What we're seeing in Memo is a kid whose natural abilities and talents lifted him head and shoulders above many other youth players, but when he got to higher levels (he was overrated in the u-17s every time I saw him) where skill had to mold with a "go get 'em" attitude, he began to fall back.

    Memo will be a bust. He won't be the first or last.
     
  11. SoulflyTribeFC

    SoulflyTribeFC New Member

    Mar 24, 2002
    Clint Mathis was a vital member of the US during their qualifying run in 2001. Without him, the US might not have made the World Cup at all. So when I say his career took off, I mean that he made a strong impact on the national team.

    Do I think Memo is a future national team player? Who knows? I think if he does well for the U-20s he could put himself in the national team pool. But he must develop his intensity and professionalism. I don't think he'll be a DMB or Landon, but I don't think he'll be a bust.

    Look at Chris Albright. This guy was supposed to be a stud but he didn't take his career seriously until a year or two ago. He got moved to right back and he's regained his focus, that's for sure. He's put himself back into the national team picture (however bleak it may be) because he's worked hard. if he can do it in his mid-20s, Memo can do it at 18.

    A year from now, if he hasn't developed, then I might think differently. But let's give him the chance now instead of getting rid of him and watch him kick ass for someone else.
     
  12. cl_hanley

    cl_hanley New Member

    Sep 3, 2001
    Costa Mesa
    We'll just have to wait and see, won't we? But you've heard it here first from dashiel and myself. Memo ain't got it.
     
  13. blackhawk

    blackhawk New Member

    Sep 19, 2004
    Riverside, CA
    And lets not forget that fellow Riverside Chad Marshall was traded away by the G only to shine in Columbus and nearly capture the Rookie of the Year title. The team has brought some great talent into the organization over the years but unless they gel as a team, they will remain individual talents. I still believe that Marshall over Suarez would have done us better. Then again Suarez might have been more attractive to the U-18 female fans.
     
  14. SoulflyTribeFC

    SoulflyTribeFC New Member

    Mar 24, 2002
    Columbus had the second pick in this year's draft and took Chad Marshall. The Galaxy took Ngwenya. The pick was never theirs to trade.
     
  15. blackhawk

    blackhawk New Member

    Sep 19, 2004
    Riverside, CA
    I stand corrected.
     
  16. ZiggyGalaxy

    ZiggyGalaxy New Member

    Sep 22, 2004
    I think people think that just because Memo is of Mexican decent and supposedly a very talented youth player (I don't really buy it...he performed well in the U-20 WC, but that's not MLS, now is it? He's nothing more than a false messiah in my book), but he has a SHITE work rate. That much is evident and the fact that he never seems to be match fit and have the pace to break through the defensive lines. I would take the #2 pick and Matt Taylor, who was a FANTASTIC striker at UCLA (sucked it up in the MLS Cup, but most of his PT was well earned and he did very well in it).

    Though the draft isn't as deep as in the past, there are still some great players and there is no doubt in my mind that a #2 pick is a great opportunity for us. Anybody heard of Ryan Pore, from Tulsa, I believe? I haven't heard his name going around that much, but he seems kinda talented. Don't know much about him...anyone, anyone? Bueller...
     
  17. DLite

    DLite New Member

    Nov 10, 2000
    Santa Ana ,CA
    I think some of you are comparing Memo to the wrong players in your arguments. I don't believe that he was ever touted as being the same caliber as Donovan, Beasley, Convey, or Adu. These players were seen as can't miss prospects when they signed with the league.

    I think a more favorable comparison would be someone like Kyle Beckerman. He was an intregal part of his U-17 squad and was seen as a solid MLS prospect, like Memo, but it took him 3 1/2 years and a position change to pan out as a starter on an MLS team.

    I would not give up on him yet. Some people take longer than others to develop. Give him 2 more seasons, then pass judgement. He'll only be 20 years old at the end of the 2006 season. Look at what Eddie Johnson did this year at 20 years of age and with 4 MLS seasons under his belt. We'll just have to wait and see.
     
  18. rokstedy

    rokstedy Member+

    I love commieball
    Apr 20, 2001
    Northwest Orange County
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good post DLite. Hopefully you're right, but some of us LA fans can be a finicky and impatient bunch. Everytime Memo steps on to the pitch, I always hope for something good out of him, but his work ethic & motivation seem to be lacking.
     
  19. SoulflyTribeFC

    SoulflyTribeFC New Member

    Mar 24, 2002
    Don't know how this earned me a neg rep from some scrub newbie, but whatever.

    I had some more thoughts on Memo. Next year, actually, the next couple of months will be critical in his development. He's going to get the chance to play for the U-20s and help them qualify for the WYC. He's playing for his former coach, the man who brought him into the Galaxy, and someone who's very familiar with his style of play. If we don't see a drastic improvement early in the season, then maybe I'll change my tune.

    I hope, and all Galaxy fans should too, that Memo hits his stride with the U-20s, helps them get to the WYC and carries over his newfound success to MLS.
     
  20. aaron90025

    aaron90025 New Member

    May 1, 2003
    W.Los Angeles
    no matter how good this kid is now or becomes, my gut still tells me he'll be wearing the red and white stripes next year.


    i hope not.
     

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