Will Conte win Coach of the year?

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  1. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
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    Overall in Europe? Is there such an award? lol

    he def. deserves it...being first year coach and going undefeated and winning the league
     
  2. DaveyGorgeous

    DaveyGorgeous Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    NYC
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    Hopefully that will soon read "and winning the double"
     
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  3. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2005
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    In Italy for sure, europe i don't think so only cause no CL, if not then for sure
     
  4. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
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    going undefeated in any league, especially in your first year as coach is something very special and extra ordinary....i doubt we'll see anyone do that in ages. that alone deserves coach of the year.

    besides the other good teams all failed, except maybe bayern. matteo did good but he's only been around half a season and chelsea is finishing like 5th in the league
     
  5. juventino13

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    if it was up to us of course, but you know how the football world works, CL will be made a big deal regardless of us not losing a game
     
  6. ArtemioD

    ArtemioD Member+

    Jun 2, 2006
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    If Di Matteo wins the champions league I dont know how you cant give it to him because Chelsea was in freefall and nobody expected this.
     
  7. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
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    yea but di matteo has been coach for like 2 months...it should go to someone who has been around all year. Regarding other teams in CL...like i said no one really did anything...all the big teams lost.
     
  8. DaveyGorgeous

    DaveyGorgeous Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
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    Yea, and? Di Matteo has been at the helm for only 5 CL games. 1 against Napoli, and the two legs against Benefica and Barcelona. Granted, he's done well for them, but they haven't improved much, if at all, in the league. Chelsea currently sit in 6th place!

    Plus, the CL is a tournament and as it has been evidenced in the past, any team can get hot, get some lucky calls or breaks, a favorable path to the final, etc. and wind up winning it. Even if Chelsea do wind up winning it, that would mean Di Matteo had coached the team successfully in 6 matches.

    I think it takes a lot more for a coach to win the league by guiding their team through 38 matches, and remaining unbeaten, as Conte has done. Much, much more. And, nobody expected a Juventus team which has finished in 7th place two years in a row, to win the league and possibly even the domestic double.

    If Conte doesn't win, it's a travesty.
     
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  9. scirea6

    scirea6 Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
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    If we're talking about Serie A, then Conte should walk it. But the whole of Europe is another matter.

    As much as I adore Il Mister, I think Rene Girard, who has Montpellier at the cusp of the Ligue 1 title, would probably be the most deserving. The difference being that they finished 14th last season and they're hardly a powerhouse, which Juve is no matter where we finished the year before.
     
  10. Daei_10

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    Aug 22, 2007
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    and add coppa italia to it...beating the likes of milan and roma


    there are so many impressive things about conte this season:
    - UNBEATEN
    - FIRST YEAR COACH
    - SERIE A TITLE (possibly coppa)
    - Won all the major teams
    - Didnt have any real "world class" players
    (except pirlo and buffon you can say - sorry ADP is not in his prime)
    - Didnt have a top striker scoring 25-30 goals
    - Conceded only 19 goals (if im not mistaken)


    Am I missing something else?
     
  11. ArtemioD

    ArtemioD Member+

    Jun 2, 2006
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    Well looking into this a little it seems that Uefa and Fifa both have an award and Uefa tends to select the winning coach of the champions league.
     
  12. DaveyGorgeous

    DaveyGorgeous Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
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    Now, that's an argument. But, it's kind of crazy to give it to Di Matteo just because of 6 games if he even wins the CL.
     
  13. scirea6

    scirea6 Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
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    I completely agree.

    Not to diminish what Di Matteo has achieved with Chelsea so far, but even Avram Grant was able to get to the CL final with the Blues. You could argue that Grant's was a superior team, but this really is the last chance for the core of that club. The psychological motivation they've had since AVB's sacking can't be underestimated, regardless of whom was appointed to replace the Portuguese. It could just be that Di Matteo was simply at the right place at the right time.

    Even if he wins the CL, I don't think that is comparable to the achievements of Rene Girard (mentioned above). Or Lucien Favre, who's gotten Gladbach into the CL after several seasons of flirting with relegation after they were promoted. Juergen Klopp has to be in contention as well, especially if he wins the domestic double this weekend (it would be the first in Dortmund's history). Other standouts have to be Alan Pardew (if Newcastle end the season with CL football) and Ivan Jovanovic at APOEL. The fact that a Cypriot club actually got to the CL quarter-finals is amazing, regardless of how they finished or who was in their group. And, of course, Antonio Conte.

    All of these are domestic achievements, with the exception of Jovanovic. But to me they are on another level of amazing/extraordinary than Di Matteo's accomplishments with Chelsea thus far, even if they do win the final.
     
  14. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
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    ^ those are all valid but with the exception of gladbach, you can argue those other leagues are inferior.....and gladbach and newcastle did not win the league, nor the coaches had their first season, and the list of what i gave.......also keep in mind conte can still with the DOUBLE with the coppa which is something those other coaches havent achieved



    Its one thing to have a GREAT season vs. a CHAMPIONSHIP season with a coppa cherry on top
    especially UNDEFEATED in a tactical league like Serie A where the teams figure you out in the 2nd half vs. first half
     
  15. OldLady

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    Sep 8, 2011
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    If Bayern win tomorrow against Dortmund(German Cup) and against Chelsea in CL final,it is very likely Heynckes will win coach of the year.
     
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  16. juventino13

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    Rhe people who vote dont give two shits about how tactical serie a is. None of that matters. I think Heynckes will win
     
  17. ArtemioD

    ArtemioD Member+

    Jun 2, 2006
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    How many of those coaches were in a European competition though? Its not domestic coach of the year and judging by who won this award in the past the voters usually tend to lean towards the champions league winner. Fifa has only started giving out this award two years ago and so far Mourinho and Guardiola were the winners and they were the last two CL winning coaches. Uefa has been giving it out since 2001. There have been some winners who didnt win the champions league but the last few years they tend to go that way also. Link below shows the past winners and also you guys might find it interesting that the year Juve played Milan in the final neither Lippi nor Ancelotti got the award.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Team_of_the_Year
     
  18. Daei_10

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    Aug 22, 2007
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    well they got killed today, so maybe if he wins CL
    they actually had a chance at the treble and they messed it up
     
  19. 1251alex

    1251alex Member+

    Oct 3, 2010
    La Mirada, CA
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    Well one things for sure, Conte won Scudetto-winning manager of the year award and thats all that matters.

    I was just thinking about that earlier, Bayern had a potential treble winning season on their hands and messed it up. haha. Maybe if they had gotten a player like Vidal? ;)
     
  20. Borussia

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    Jun 5, 2006
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    That's a HUGE accomplishment, indeed! :thumbsup:

    Mille grazie, Antonio!!!

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