Will CONCACAF & CONMEBOL ever combine the Gold Cup & Copa America

It should be an equal partnership or nothing. We don't want CONCACAF teams participating as guests in a CONMEBOL tournament. If it isn't a combined tournament with both confeds as partners then it isn't worth doing. That means split numbers of teams 8 and 8 or 10 and 10 if CONMEBOL doesn't want to do qualifying. Equal hosting responsiblities with CONCACAF getting to host every other tournament. They probably need to ditch the Caribbean as well.

 

The Copa America is the oldest soccer tournament in the world. Older than the World Cup. It has a lot of history and tradition and means a lot for Latin Americans. Do we have any incentive to make it in to a mickey mouse tournament with gimmick teams like Barbados and Jamaica?

Its like saying that the MLB should merge with the Mexican Baseball League because it has been the dream of many Mexican fans for many years

 

I have honestly never met a fan of a CONMEBOL nation who would even consider this as an option. it is purely a creation of media/ wishful thiknig fans from CONCACAF countires, mainly here in the US.

It is not the American market CONMEBOL care about or covet, as crazy as it is for Americans to absorb - it is Mexico and THEIR fans, that is the hot chick at the bart CONMEBOL wants a piece of.

They can and will continue to invite Mexico, and Mexico will continue to go.

I can't speak for Mexican or Mexican-Amercian Tri fans, but i'll bet you if Mexico had an open invite to ditch CONCACAF and join CONMEBOL, where most of them think they should be anyway, they would have moved with Texas A&M-to-the-SEC speed.

 

well boca forced the AFA to create the short tournament system because you couldn't win in the long tournament and hadn't won a championship for 10 years....

yet you ignorant, poor boca fans claim they changed the relegation system to accomodate us, when in reality it was done for san lorenzo... (not even to get into the fact that the promotion system changed the year boca ascended to primera division.... who knows, if they hadn't done that boca may never have joined primera)

i say we kick bolivia out of conmebol and invite mexico, just my thoughts

 

by the way atomicbloke, congrats on winningt the apertura and congrats on winning more fans...

villa miserias (shantytowns) in the buenos aires metropolitan area are growing every year and they are almost all boca fans... (if you are a tourist and robbed/mugged in our country it was probably a boca fan)... do not go to la boca

(this is where boca fans live)
http://www.eltribuno.info/salta/81360-Hay-90-villas-nuevas-en-el-Gran-Buenos-Aires.note.aspx

 

Coveting the Mexican market is the same thing as coveting the American market. You can't have one without the other. They are too intertwined.
And the business relationship between the two feds and their corporate partners is so tight that Mexico could never leave for CONMEBOL separately.

The climate among European clubs is also such that the guest teams in the Copa America is pretty much dead. It killed Japan's participation almost as much as the earthquake did. Clubs will simply no longer release their players for unofficial tournaments. And Copa America for a non-CONMEBOL team is an unofficial tournament. The stand of the leadership of CONCACAF was silly anyway. Mexico was never getting their best players for Copa America even if they had been allowed by CONCACAF. Copa America is now the only confederation tournament worldwide with guest teams, and FIFA headquarters in Zurich has only encouraged their elimination. With quality Mexican players going to Europe younger and younger the problem isn't going to go away with guest team status either. CONMEBOL either has to turn the tournament into a 10 team affair and say goodbye to Mexico or negotiate a full partnership with all of CONCACAF. There is no middle ground in FIFA's rules on guest teams in this.

 

I agree. That's a better format. The 2 invited teams is a horrible way to go.

 

Agreed. Its almost like getting points for free. Only Mexico sometimes shows up for the tournament.

 

Agree with most of this post, but the oldest soccer tournament in the world is the English FA Cup, started in 1872.

 

Should have specified "oldest continental tournament".

 

Copa America 2015 Brazil

Group A---Brasil ---4th Gold Cup----Colombia---Bolivia
Group B---Argentina----3rd Gold Cup---Chile---Peru
Group C---Uruguay---2nd Gold Cup----Ecuador----5th Gold Cup
Group D---1st Gold Cup---Venezuela----Paraguay----6th Gold Cup

(Peru and Bolivia are Concacacaf tier, a joke)

Brazil have too many big nice stadiums after WC2014, need use it to something, also FIFA Women World Cup 2023 Brazil, the 1st in South America.

 

Can't see the point of a tournament like this unless CONMEBOL and CONCACAF were to combine. This would be of no benefit to CONMEBOL as even if their nations were confident of pinching some World Cup spots from their northern naighbours in a fair contest, the vast numbers of small nations in CONCACAF would then have control of football in the western hemisphere.

 

Never going to happen. I'd rather go back to either the 2 groups of 5 teams or 3 groups of 3 teams and holders join in the second round/semi's format than continue with the guests nonsense.
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The main problem I see here is that CONCACAF stands to benefit nothing from such a connection. In the current format North American second tier teams at least can be competitive, the new format would deegate them to being irreevant.

 

If combined, Copa will become close to Euro championship in qualification stages - with extra many minnow teams as road pavement ... LOL

 

CONCACAF should worry about CONCACAF itself and should look for ways to improve this confederation ASAP...

 

Agreed, and I'm American.