Will Bojan ever become a World Class player

Discussion in 'BigSoccer Polls' started by Afghan-Juventus, Jul 15, 2013.

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Will Bojan become a world class player

  1. Yes

    16.7%
  2. No

    83.3%
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  1. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Only if he moves to Brasileiro.
     
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  2. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yeah, but the World Cup is 10 months away so those 19 year olds you are thinking about (yet can't name them) are pretty useless in the context of 2014. Thiago would be useful for Brazil in a match against a team like Uruguay, where Brazil's counter-attack style doesn't work so well.
     
  3. Rana catesbeiana

    Mar 11, 2008
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    lol no

    He was a super promising kid, rushed into the first team, didn't deliver, got loaned away etc. He played in Barca's first team 4 seasons (lots of chances to deliver), of which three under Guardiola. 115 matches under Pep. No one took any rug from under him.
     
  4. puertorricane

    puertorricane Red Card

    Feb 4, 2012
    Carolina PR
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil

    No it wasnt, it was Rijkaard that gave him his first chance and played him a lot. Once Pep arrived he want bojan to play with the B team and didnt give him as many starts. His confidence went down from there and he hasnt recuperated again.



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  5. puertorricane

    puertorricane Red Card

    Feb 4, 2012
    Carolina PR
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil


    He played a lot before pep got there and he scored a lot as well. Once Rijkaard left and Pep came in they wanted him to go backwards. How do you expect a kid to go from playing 40 games with the main club to go back and start playing with the B team.

    If the management didnt feel he was ready why did they play him so much under rijkaard and then wanted him on the B team under Pep.



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  6. the one and only

    Jul 15, 2011
    But that's exactly what you implied, i mean why will any NT coach (especially Spain that is loaded with talent) call up a player who isn't performing for his club???
     
  7. puertorricane

    puertorricane Red Card

    Feb 4, 2012
    Carolina PR
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil

    To tied them up with spain before brasil or Serbia came calling simple... both thiago and bojan were called up just for that. They were youngsters at the time of their call ups and werent yet regulars with their clubs nor were established players performing at a high level.



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  8. puertorricane

    puertorricane Red Card

    Feb 4, 2012
    Carolina PR
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil

    He was delivering under rijkaard until pep came over and tried forcing him into the B team and took all his confidence away. Pep ruined the young kid who was headed in the right direction at the time pep took over.


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  9. the one and only

    Jul 15, 2011
    Different managements, Pep and Rijkaard are different people and have different ways of managing teams. Pep came in with his own exact ideas of how he wanted the team to play, with players he really wanted to use and other players he wanted out (Ronaldinho, Deco, etc). But still Bojan continued to play the replacement role he was already playing before Pep became the coach.

    And anyways, what does this have to do with the Spaninsh NT also???
     
  10. scytheavatar

    scytheavatar Member

    Jun 12, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Rijkaard was a failure while Pep brought the club to the next level.
     
  11. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    He still wouldn't be good enough to get a call up on the current squad. It's really that simple.
     
  12. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    back to the Bojan topic, youth success doesn't always translate into pro success because of the growth issue with individuals.
     
  13. wigglesworth

    wigglesworth Member

    Jun 9, 2013
    Club:
    AS Livorno Calcio
    I liked the kid. But honestly, he was given many chances at Roma and then Milan, and he just wasn't good enough.
     
  14. puertorricane

    puertorricane Red Card

    Feb 4, 2012
    Carolina PR
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    He wouldve been better off playing for Serbia where he wouldve had a lot more opportunities and maybe even start and resurrect his career the national team route. But Spain gave him an undeserved call up at 17 just to tied him up the same way they did with thiago. How many call ups have both gotten since their first game?


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  15. Rana catesbeiana

    Mar 11, 2008
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    He had 12 goals in 48 matches under Rijkaard (0,25 per match). Then, with the three seasons he played under Pep he scored 10 in 42, 12 in 36 and 7 in 37, which averages to 0,25 as well (or a little more if we're exact). I dunno how that translates to delivering under Rijkaard and Pep ruining him. I mean, "tried forcing him into B team" lol what?

    A coach has to think about the team's good before taking care of a single player: it was too bad that Bojan couldn't evolve enough under Pep, but Bojan was shown support continuously and he got lots of minutes. I'm not saying Pep wasn't a factor in reasoning why Bojan didn't fulfill the craziest hype, but to put so much blame on him as you do sounds, tbh, like someone speaking who didn't follow Barca intensively during the Bojan years (and who in general just doesn't like Pep anyways).
     
  16. Shevafan

    Shevafan Member

    Feb 1, 2011
    Toronto
    Club:
    FC Karpaty Lviv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Bojan is trash and overvalues himself. When he missed that sitter against Inter in the 2nd game I instantly knew he was never going to be good enough.
     
  17. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Ajax should do him good, and when he comes back he should stay in la liga and get out of Barca and play for a mid level la liga club. He should've played for Serbia for international play not Spain what a dummy.
     
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  18. ZvonmirBoban

    ZvonmirBoban New Member

    Aug 22, 2013
    I can't see Bojan developing beyond "a good player".

    His career thus far has been stop start stop, and he seems to take sideways steps.

    Who knows though, perhaps after a season at Ajax and scoring against some lesser opposition, his confidence will be restored.
     
  19. Afghan-Juventus

    Afghan-Juventus Member+

    Oct 14, 2012
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Afghanistan
    His career seemed to have been rejuvenated after his move to Stoke City.
     
  20. Benando_NFFC

    Benando_NFFC Member

    Jul 19, 2015
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I think as odd as it sounds, Stoke is a good club for him at the minute. Hughes has tried to get away from the 'rugby team' tag people labelled Stoke with to make them a side who play good, crisp football. This has seen fallen players like Bojan, Arnautovic become key to how they play with the system tweaked to suit their qualities.

    This season will be tough for Bojan as he'll become more of a target for other sides to neutralise Stoke - same as Kane will be at Spurs.

    Up to Bojan how he gets around this but if he continues where he left off, though he won't be world class he could become an Arteta and have a good, established career in the PL.
     
  21. The Potter

    The Potter Member+

    Aug 26, 2004
    England
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'm so excited to see him, Arnie, Afellay and maybe a marque player (Yarmelenko) synch up next season, a world away from what we've been used to. Bojan really is very talented, I was surprised how good he was given how his career had trailed off. He clearly has confidence issues so we need to treat him like the main man but after Eriksen he's my favourite playmaker in the league.
     

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