Why the US Open Cup is Important

Discussion in 'Soccer in the USA' started by Max F., Aug 8, 2012.

  1. Max F.

    Max F. Member

    May 25, 2012
    Syracuse, New York
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    I find it hard to explain to people why the Lamar Hunt US Open Cup is important. Even after explaining the new CONCACAF Champions League and the FIFA Club World Cup stuff. I wrote it out in an email once and it worked out pretty good.

    So I wrote this post and thought maybe some of yous may have had a similar experience talking about this stuff to non-soccer fans or those who are EPL snobs and what have you... feel free to pass the link along- I think it does a decent job of explaining. If not, feel free to post a comment and make it better....

    http://www.examiner.com/article/2012-us-open-cup-championship?cid=db_articles
     
  2. Whitecaps10

    Whitecaps10 Member

    Jul 11, 2010
    Long Island,NY
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You explained it well. The beginning of the article doesn't make sense though, it shows up as random words.
     
  3. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would help if the USSF actually promoted the event. One wouldn't even know this is happening without checking mlssoccer.com Getting the semis and final on ESPN or something would help. I know FSC has had the final in years past but more people get ESPN.
     
  4. nicklaino

    nicklaino Member+

    Feb 14, 2012
    Brooklyn, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    You might tell non soccer people it is a historic part of US soccer history. Tell them when it started and that most other countries have the same tournament of the best club team in the country.also that leagues come and go. But this tournament will always be here. How about that
     
  5. troutseth

    troutseth Member+

    Feb 1, 2006
    Houston, TX
    Yeah you html tag is off.

    The article itself is solid. I do have an underlying challenge to your premise. I don't think it is all that coveted outside of a few clubs (fans aside). I have opinions as to why, but I will leave that aside for now. Suffice it to say the prestige, format/scheduling, and coverage make it difficult for most clubs to prioritize over league games.
     
  6. Max F.

    Max F. Member

    May 25, 2012
    Syracuse, New York
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Well, given CCL changes and lack of true history in FIFA's club worldcup I think the explination to EPL snobs may actually help them root for MLS in this kind of a format, or against given their preference. Although from the CONCACAF releases the terms of revenue it doesn't seem as if it has much revenue potential outside of- as you mentioned- few clubs.

    That being said, working on getting the formatting fixed so it looks better. thanks for the input!
     
  7. Max F.

    Max F. Member

    May 25, 2012
    Syracuse, New York
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    I've stopped watching ESPN due to lack of MLS coverage. In my view, it is just bad. Plain and simple. Although more people do watch ESPN- sports fans at that- I'm not sure their 'coverage' would give it the needed 'umph'
     
  8. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To me, the main reason why the U.S. Open Cup is important is that it is a link to the American soccer of nearly 100 years ago, and those links are getting fewer and fewer. The leagues from back then are gone, the top teams are gone, the players are gone. The main links still remaining are the USSF, the U.S. men's national team, a few amateur clubs and the U.S. Open Cup.
     
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  9. Cosmo_Kid

    Cosmo_Kid Member

    Jul 17, 2012
    whats an EPL snob?
     
  10. CCinGermany

    CCinGermany Member

    May 3, 2006
    Chicagoland
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clearly, it is not important at all to the USSF. If it were, they would have done something about allowing a meaningless European friendly to go on at the same time on a much more widely viewed network. I really see this as a bit of a slap in the face of the two clubs who played in KC last night.
     
  11. Cosmo_Kid

    Cosmo_Kid Member

    Jul 17, 2012
    Gulati has a conflict of interest. He works for the New England Revs still doesnt he?
     
  12. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. It gives non MLS teams a chance to compete with MLS teams.
    2. It's for a champions league birth
    3. It gives an MLS a chance at a trophy outside the MLS Cup.
    4. It's just a very historic tournament.
     
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  13. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you think they felt it was a slap in the face? Do you think you make more of this than the people who are actually involved? If it's a meaningless European friendly, what the ******** are you concerned about?
     
  14. CCinGermany

    CCinGermany Member

    May 3, 2006
    Chicagoland
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My concern is that the national cup final had to compete for the soccer audience, and lost badly. I don't see this state of affairs as being in any way helpful toward trying to build the sport in this country. I suspect the clubs were too focused on playing the game to care about the TV situation. Any other questions?
     
  15. sikesy7

    sikesy7 Member

    Bayern München
    United States
    Aug 6, 2012
    Ellicott City, Maryland
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The best way to explain is that its just another way to gain entry into the concacaf champions league. America gets 4 slots. 1. for supporters shield 2. for mls cup winner 3. mls cup runner up 4. us open cup winner. So if your a team that doesn't have a chance to finish 1st in the league or go to the mls championship game this is just another way to get into the champions league. It gives every team a little hope even amateur clubs.
     
  16. DCUdiplomat96

    DCUdiplomat96 Member

    Mar 19, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. It gives non MLS teams a chance to compete with MLS teams.- pretty much benefits the lower division teams, i think it needs to be later in the season like your tradional american postseason playoffs
    2. It's for a champions league birth- MLS Cup decides the league Championship, eurosnob american socccer fans need to understand that. doesnt help that the CCL schedule doesnt benefit MLS... neither does the USOC
    3. It gives an MLS a chance at a trophy outside the MLS Cup.- Consolation at best, Need a better reason
    4. It's just a very historic tournament. - Not a Good enough reason the USSF still needs to do a better Job marketing it and Soccer better
     

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