Why the Republicans shouldn't use new media

taosjohn · Jun 7, 2020

Cascarino's Pizzeria said: ↑

BRAKING-- sumone get Grandpa uway from the Fox Newz
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But first get him away from the fireplace...

sitruc · Jun 8, 2020

I hope understanding why this happened unravels a lot of things.

realDonaldTrump liked this tweet: https://t.co/xXzqz0hjR5
— Trump Alert (@TrumpsAlert) June 8, 2020

The account only had 46 tweets and 3 followers and 2 were private accounts. The first looks like it was a Brazilian BTS account/potential bot that went inactive a few times yet links to a George Floyd change.org petition in recent days.

The Devil's Architect · Jun 8, 2020

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She's spending all her cash on the rural props to drive around in front of
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Update: Her news signs say "Protect Trump"...

Sweet Jesus Lady - If Trumpy need some backwater right wing post menopausal Karen to protect him - he's ********ed

xtomx · Jun 13, 2020

Anybody "enjoy" watching Tom "send out the military against US citizens" Cotton DEFEND Alexander Katai in the Senate yesterday?

Of course, Cotton managed to get his facts wrong.

I am/was one of the biggest Katai fan in MLS but, really, he and his wife can f*ck off back to Serbia at this point.

bostonsoccermdl · Jun 13, 2020

xtomx said: ↑

I am/was one of the biggest Katai fan in MLS but, really, he and his wife can f*ck off back to Serbia at this point.
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I don't even know if firing someone over a wife's action is legal.

I am clearly not a lawyer, but the Galaxy dropped the ball and took the cowardly way out on this one.
They simply didn't to deal with irrational fans on road games holding up nonsensical "Galaxy= racists" signs. Katai doesn't have control over the wife's instagram, nor is he responsible for it. End of story.

He denounced his wifes actions, and now CJ is complaining he didn't get the ball enough when Katai was on the field.

Its downright silly.

yossarian · Jun 13, 2020

bostonsoccermdl said: ↑

I don't even know if firing someone over a wife's action is legal.
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If he was a normal at-will employee like most people are, he could be fired for pretty much any reason not relating to race, religion, or sex. Given that he's a professional athlete, his employment was contractual, so it just depends on what the contract said as to whether it was legal to terminate him.

bostonsoccermdl · Jun 13, 2020

Interesting. I was always under the impression firing people was difficult (and a pain in the ass) for legal reasons, as a valid reason needed to be given. Not just a "you aren't a good fit." Again, I don't know these things from a legal perspective, so thanks.

ceezmad · Jun 13, 2020

bostonsoccermdl said: ↑

Interesting. I was always under the impression firing people was difficult (and a pain in the ass) for legal reasons, as a valid reason needed to be given. Not just a "you aren't a good fit." Again, I don't know these things from a legal perspective, so thanks.
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He is probably getting paid for the season, but future options will be declined.

xtomx · Jun 13, 2020

bostonsoccermdl said: ↑

I don't even know if firing someone over a wife's action is legal.

I am clearly not a lawyer, but the Galaxy dropped the ball and took the cowardly way out on this one.
They simply didn't to deal with irrational fans on road games holding up nonsensical "Galaxy= racists" signs. Katai doesn't have control over the wife's instagram, nor is he responsible for it. End of story.

He denounced his wifes actions, and now CJ is complaining he didn't get the ball enough when Katai was on the field.

Its downright silly.
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He was NOT fired. His contract was terminated by mutual consent.

That means he agreed to leave.

His situation would have been untenable once the season started up again.

Far from cowardly, it made sense to both parties.

yossarian · Jun 13, 2020

bostonsoccermdl said: ↑

Interesting. I was always under the impression firing people was difficult (and a pain in the ass) for legal reasons, as a valid reason needed to be given. Not just a "you aren't a good fit." Again, I don't know these things from a legal perspective, so thanks.
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It most states, it's quite easy -- again, as long as the firing wasn't related to race, sex, religion, and age or disability are two others I neglected to mention in my initial response which have some federal protection. I'm fairly certain most states are now considered (ironically) right-to-work states, where you can be fired for almost any reason as long as your employment isn't contractual in some way, e.g., a union contract, etc.

JohnR · Jun 21, 2020

I had to bump, because last night.

superdave · Jul 3, 2020

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The problem, tho, is that New Media formats allow people to see the unfiltered or semi-filtered thoughts of Republican officials. And that's a negative, because Republicans, deep down inside, are evil racists.
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https://www.hattiesburgamerican.com...er-accused-making-racist-comments/3280055001/

"A social media comment with racial undertones made by a Mississippi election commissioner sparked outrage across the state on the same weekend state legislators voted to retire the flag and its Confederate emblem.

"I'm concerned about voter registration in Mississippi," the commissioner wrote. "The blacks are having lots (of) events for voter registration. People in Mississippi have to get involved, too.""

Undertones, huh?

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"It's those kind of things that people say until somebody brings it to their attention and then it's not what they said or it's not what they meant," said Sen. Juan Barnett, whose district includes part of Jones County.

"I don't know if she is racist or not. But it's the just undertone and stuff of what people say that gives the illusion that that's what you are, based on what was said."
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You may not know, Senator. But I do.

Facebook reactions

https://www.facebook.com/discoverstory/posts/10220941543984261

russ · Jul 3, 2020

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Unfortunately, Republican stupidity isn't limited to just one state.
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It's not stupidity.It's racism and belief in white supremacy.It's bad but not stupid.

SetPeace · Jul 3, 2020

russ said: ↑

It's not stupidity.It's racism and belief in white supremacy.It's bad but not stupid.
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Yeah, but you ask any Republican point-blank, and they'll tell you they aren't racist at all (but they do say they are proud of their white heritage).

superdave · Jul 10, 2020

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The problem, tho, is that New Media formats allow people to see the unfiltered or semi-filtered thoughts of Republican officials. And that's a negative, because Republicans, deep down inside, are evil racists.
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/media/tucker-carlson-writer-blake-neff/index.html

"The top writer for Fox News host Tucker Carlson has for years been using a pseudonym to post bigoted remarks on an online forum that is a hotbed for racist, sexist, and other offensive content, CNN Business learned this week."

Q*bert Jones III · Jul 11, 2020

World RIvalries?

usscouse · Jul 11, 2020

superdave said: ↑

https://www.hattiesburgamerican.com...er-accused-making-racist-comments/3280055001/

"A social media comment with racial undertones made by a Mississippi election commissioner sparked outrage across the state on the same weekend state legislators voted to retire the flag and its Confederate emblem.

"I'm concerned about voter registration in Mississippi," the commissioner wrote. "The blacks are having lots (of) events for voter registration. People in Mississippi have to get involved, too.""

Undertones, huh?

More from the article.

You may not know, Senator. But I do.

Facebook reactions

https://www.facebook.com/discoverstory/posts/10220941543984261
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“I’m concerned about voter registration in Mississippi," the commissioner wrote. "The blacks are having lots (of) events for voter registration. People in Mississippi have to get involved, too.""

Did he just say blacks aren’t people? Or is that just the way they talk there?

russ · Jul 12, 2020

Yes and yes.

JohnR · Jul 12, 2020

I didn't put this in the BLM thread because it's merely an example. The real issue is the state of social-media discussions -

If I see someone bring up “black-on-black crime” in response to an article about racist policing, I know how almost every step of the interaction will go should I choose to engage. Rather than learn from these exchanges, people of all persuasions on Twitter mostly enjoy the style of whichever “dunk” we happen to agree with. This isn’t universal, of course. One can try to engage in good faith, and some people do. But given that the reward for all that effort is likely to be mockery or contempt, one learns not to bother. “Black-on-black crime” becomes a cue to sign off.
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Things were much better when political discussions were face to face. There are of course jerks, but most people will make an effort to listen under such a situation. Talking isn't necessarily a waste of time. But man, it's tough to have good-faith disagreements on social media. It's better here than with Twitter, to be sure, but we still struggle to do so here.

russ · Jul 12, 2020

But the people who talk on social media the most would never dare to say what they say to a real persons face.

Unless they were planning violence and attempting to provoke a response.

ToMhIlL · Jul 13, 2020

russ said: ↑

But the people who talk on social media the most would never dare to say what they say to a real persons face.
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That should always be the rule of thumb on the internet--never say something online that you wouldn't say in person.

I always tell my 13-year-old daughter that when she and some of her friends get embroiled in online drama and someone says something out of line... Somehow, that doesn't always work.

Kazuma · Jul 13, 2020

russ said: ↑

But the people who talk on social media the most would never dare to say what they say to a real persons face.

Unless they were planning violence and attempting to provoke a response.
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I think of a clip of the UK House of Commons Speaker, John Bercow chewing out a colleague for similar behavior, pointing out that at their kids school he's on his best behavior.

superdave · Jul 13, 2020

The RNC rapid response director posted then deleted this

JohnR · Jul 13, 2020

Boy, if there were ever a picture to get Joe Biden elected, that would be it.

SamScouse · Jul 13, 2020

Has anyone ever seen Trump displaying any kind of affection for his kids?

I remember he was interviewed by Howard Stern a few years back (pre campaigning). Ivanka was there too. Stern asked "What interests do you two have in common?" In a flash Trump says "Sex" to the obvious embarrassment of his daughter. Father of The Year candidate, right there.