Why should I upgrade to Grade 7?

Discussion in 'Referee' started by Ref Flunkie, Dec 1, 2003.

  1. Ref Flunkie

    Ref Flunkie Member

    Oct 3, 2003
    New Hudson, MI
    Ok so it is that time of year again, recert time. I think I need to decide now if I want to upgrade from an 8 to a 7. I find myself debating if I really want to go to a 7. I enjoy refereeing and I always want to better myself, so naturally I think if I can I should upgrade. However, I am even more unsure if I want to continue to be a Grade 6 State Referee. If I never move on to a Grade 6, is there even a reason to move to a 7? Just curious if people have debated doing this as well.
     
  2. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Montgomery Vlg, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess it depends on what you want to do. It may be different in Michigan, but around here you don't get a sniff at senior men's amateur or even u-19 games unless you're a 7 or a "rising" 8.

    That's not to say that there aren't a bunch of 8's who could ref circles around some 6's I've seen.
     
  3. Statesman

    Statesman New Member

    Sep 16, 2001
    The name says it all
    Grade 7 is a stepstone to Grade 6, but other than that there isn't much to it. About the only thing I can think of is it guarantees you U17+ games at a youth tournament where the assignor doesn't know you.
     
  4. Ref Flunkie

    Ref Flunkie Member

    Oct 3, 2003
    New Hudson, MI
    I mean right now all I do is youth matches (U12-19) and adult league (O-30, O-40, O-50 local teams) matches in the summer time. To be honest, it keeps me busy enough, pays me enough to make it worth while, and is still enjoyable to do. I guess I am just fighting the whole "if you can, why don't you upgrade" mentallity. I like to think I am a pretty good referee, but what other way is there to show others that than to upgrade? (This is MY thinking)

    Ok here is a somewhat related question. I have never been evaluated, EVER. How does one know if they are good enough to even make it to grade 6 or above, other than applying for a 7 upgrade? I mean most of my evaluations have come from parents/coaches, and we know how those are! I guess I am just at a point where I need to decide if I want to work toward upper level matches and higher grade levels. Maybe I'll bug someone at the recert clinic.
     
  5. But Referee

    But Referee New Member

    Jun 16, 2003
    As the French say .."au contraire". You get evaluated for EVERY game that you do. You may have yet to receive a formal assessment, but you can't walk onto the field without being evaluated.

    If you have lingering doubts, or seek some sort of validation, take the bull by the horns and request an assessment.
     
  6. Ref Flunkie

    Ref Flunkie Member

    Oct 3, 2003
    New Hudson, MI
    Oh you know what I mean! :D Personally I do not consider "Hey ref, that was a foul!" a worthwhile evaluation. Lets just say I have never had a higher level referee or an assessor see a game of mine and just casually tell me if I did a good job or not.

    As far as just going for it, that is probably what I will do just so I can at least be told "You are really bad, stick with being an 8". At least I will know then :).
     
  7. But Referee

    But Referee New Member

    Jun 16, 2003



    Your assignor "tells" you every week. You wouldnt be doing all of those Over (whatever) games if he/she didnt feel comfortable placing you for those matches. Your most important evaluator, regardless of grade, is your assignor. Barring a shrtage of referees to do these games, you wouldnt be doing them unless you had the confidence of the person that put you on the match.

    On a side note, tournaments are generally a good place to be seen. Sometimes by assessors, and usually by referees that are more senior than yourself. Take advantage of what's out there. Sounds like you have a bright future.
     
  8. jc508

    jc508 New Member

    Jan 3, 2000
    Columbus, Ohio area
    Around here, being a 7 or 8 does not necessarily mean that you will get the U-19 or amateur adult games. But being a 7 does have its benefits, including the following:

    If no one knows you, as soon as they find out that you are a Grade 7, you get the benefit of the doubt and presumed to be an experienced and better referee. Some Grade 7's dispell this presumption shortly after taking the field.

    If you are a Grade 7, assignors will be more prone to award better games to you. You may get that final at the tournament. Once you are a Grade 6, you may get some low level professional games, and these are great experiences. However, you have to be a 7 to be a 6.

    If you are a Grade 7, many will give greater credibility to what you may opine. Others will believe that you are trying to blow smoke somewhere.

    If you are a Grade 7, you will have had to pass an assessment to be upgraded. This is an outside evaluation of you as a referee on a challenging game. You may think that you are a better ref now (and you probably are), but an outside evaluation would confirm that.

    But the most important of becoming a Grade 7 is the sense of accomplishment and the confidence it engenders. You had to have the required experience, the ability to pass the fitness test, to pass the written test, and to pass an assessment. Once you become a 7, you have accomplished that and you should be proud of meeting those national standards.

    I say, go for it.
     
  9. GKbenji

    GKbenji Member+

    Jan 24, 2003
    Fort Collins CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Ref Flunkie

    Ref Flunkie Member

    Oct 3, 2003
    New Hudson, MI
    I think jc508 hit most of the reasons I am interested in upgrading. Thanks for the input all, I'll probably put in for the upgrade during our recert.
     
  11. nsa

    nsa Member+

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Feb 22, 1999
    Notboston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wasn't going for an upgrade until Mass. began restricting invitation and attendance to advanced clinics based upon grade.

    Now I'd like to get my State badge to lend further cred to my instructor and assessor activities.

    $$$ may be a reason for some folks to upgrade. I am aware of some tournaments that pay based upon grade.
     
  12. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are also some tournaments that you won't even get into as a referee unless you are at least a grade 7 -- like many of the college showcase level tournaments. And some of those, even though they REQUIRE a grade 7, you really better be a 6 in order to get any decent assignments.

    So if you are interested in travelling and doing some high level tournaments, that'd be another reason to upgrade.
     
  13. Gary V

    Gary V Member+

    Feb 4, 2003
    SE Mich.
    Ummm, you're too late ...

    Recert in Michigan is almost over - only one or two more weekend clinics available. There may be latecomer clinics in the new year, but they will charge excess fees for those.

    You would have already had to complete your fitness test and passed an assessment at a game rated as sufficient for the grade, in addition to passing the test, in order to be eligible to upgrade this year.

    In Livonia, you probably know who Jeff C is. I'm sure he can give you specifics for who to contact for upgrading next year. Because it is almost a year-long process. The Michigan Ref Committee promotes upgrading, but that doesn't mean it's an easy process. Google for their website, if you don't already have it.
     
  14. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Gary is right about your recert clinics, remember that you can always upgrade mid-year (except to national, of course) if you are willing to pay the fee to register a second time. If you complete all your requirements in March or April, you don't have to wait until next Fall to upgrade.
     
  15. Ref Flunkie

    Ref Flunkie Member

    Oct 3, 2003
    New Hudson, MI
    I'm going to recert this weekend or next weekend (plenty of time left!!), depending which day I want to waste away in an auditorium. I wasn't planning on getting assessed, etc. until next year, but I thought I had to make it known I wanted to do so at the recert clinic (am I wrong?). Actually I don't know JeffC (maybe I do but I just dont know it!). Again I'll probably just ask those at the recert clinic about it, I'm sure they can point me in the right direction. I'm not in THAT big of a rush.
     

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