Why NASL keeps fighting MLS?

Because they are delusional.

 

Well their goal is to challenge MLS and obviously they think they can compete in certain cities like Miami and Chicago. We'll see if they can. The NASL is reportedly looking at some of the cities you mentioned though such as San Francisco and Orange County. There were some Detroit rumors floating around but haven't seen anything recently.

 

The NASL can't add teams anywhere without owners. The NASL didn't pick Puerto Rico or Miami, those places have owners that picked the NASL. The NASL was supposed to tell the potential owners in those places, No, you can't join our league unless you start your team in Baltimore or New Orleans?

 

They can only go where the owners want to go, If Carmelo wants PR then the only choises are PR or no team for Carmelo. I am sure NASL would have prefered Carmelo bought the Atlanta team, but that did not happen. Reality has a way of getting in the way of peoples fantacies.

 

When talking about US/Canadian soccer you would do well to forget how soccer is run where you are from. Forget pro/rel, forget a soccer pyramid, forget everything you know about soccer as a business. These leagues are not part of a superstructure of leagues, they are independent businesses that have no real connection to each other. D1, D2, and D3 are essentially meaningless.

 

I don't know why people keeps whining for Puerto Rico team, that is the best PR campaign that NASL could have. Easy access to concacaf champions league... If the other teams were doing better in the US Open Cup this might not be as great as it should but, that not the case.

 

Why?

 

WHY?

 

How silly I am, I though that playing better was the solution...

Ten years of PR Islanders proof you wrong...

 

The Strikers started in Miami as Miami FC. As Miami FC they did marginally better in Ft Lauderdale's Lockhart Stadium. When they rebranded that team as the Ft Lauderdale Strikers and began playing in Lockhart Stadium as the Ft Lauderdale Strikers their season tickets went from under 50 to nearly 1,000. Their attendance rose from 1,200 per game to near 3,500.

There is a built in fan base for the Strikers in Ft Lauderdale and Broward County, along with Palm Beach County, that is quite loyal. The nice Brazilians that own the Strikers understand this and feel that they will support the team no matter another teams arrival in SoFl. That make the owners feel that the team will survive as the Ft Lauderdale Strikers with another NASL team in Miami-Dade, in fact they welcome it since it may actually draw a few folks from M-D to Lockhart when the 2 teams play here. They also think that these loyal Ft Lauderdale Striker fans will allow the Strikers to survive even when Becks team arrives and is in M-D.

Finally, many of the Strikers loyal, built in fan base in the 2 northern counties have stated emphatically that they will only support a team called the Ft Lauderdale Strikers. Any other name and they are gone. Which is to say
that a name change is a very bad idea that borders on suicide. Consequently, please, forgetabout it!

See above. There will be no division. Most Strikers fans are from Broward County & Palm Beach County and will not support the Miami NASL team. The fans from M-D have not supported the Strikers since they moved to Lockhart and became the Strikers. M-D is not at all the home of the Strikers fan base. The Miami NASL team will only be competing with Beckham's MLS team for fans. Not the Strikers.

 

Even if, Carmelo and his FO had not association with the Islanders and its connection with the internal politics of the island, the stigma of economic failure is there. But the club lasted 10 years with limited finances. This isn't them this is a man with much deeper pockets than all the past Islanders owner put together. A man that has no visible political biases on the island, like the owners of the Islanders and a man who has the respect of most of the sport community, locally and nationally. All the stapes his taking till now have show a greater understanding of how to set up a club than what the Islanders administration ever showed. He chose a coach that has the respect of local players and armature teams which is key for real support in the soccer community on the island. He picked a president that understand how to build a brand and has already done more to connect to fans that the las three Islanders presidents did. Nothing that Carmelo and his new FO has done have showed me any need for concern and similarities to the Islanders other than going with a similar color scheme, and that was one f the best things about the islanders.

 

Can we please have every one of these asinine threads about planting teams in cities with no regard for owners or stadiums locked and/or deleted?

 

Well, New Orleans is totally getting an MLS team, remember? Book it.

No, not really.

In terms of movement between them like, you know, the rest of the world (which you told the guy to forget about). But not in terms of a rough-hewn hierarchy.

Division 1 teams spend lots of money, draw 20k a game, have nice stadiums, have players that actually play for big national teams and are on actual television.

Division 2 teams spend less money, draw 6k a game, have lesser stadiums, have players that play for Guam's national team and are on ESPN3.

Division 3 teams spend even less money than that, draw 3500 a game, play in whatever municipal stadium happens to be around, have players that were until recently in the PDL and are on YouTube.

They don't contain the component that teams at those levels in other countries do - that of results-based promotion and relegation - but in terms of money and organization and player skill and fan interest, they are similarly stacked. And given the American sporting landscape is, in most sports, conditioned to figure out that AAA is better than AA and that's better than A and what was once called Division IA was better than what was once called Division IAA in terms of all those things, no, they're not "meaningless." The meaning is slightly different. But that doesn't make it meaningless.

 

Well, never say never, but given ( a ) the personalities involved and ( b ) the sport's history on these shores of non-cooperation between various factions, I would take the under.

Cue the lawyers.

Leagues get to determine their membership. If Sacramento's ownership met MLS approval and D1 requirements, telling them they "must be in NASL" would result in nothing but a bunch of billable hours.

What, and miss out on that lucrative partnership with the NPSL?

There is a lot about American soccer - and about America - that SHOULD make sense, but does not.

 

And as a bonus, by having 18 teams, you would be guaranteeing that they wouldn't all get knocked out in the Round of 16. This idea keeps looking better and better.

I guess. Travel between two cities 3,500 miles apart, like Edmonton and San Juan are, is usually pretty cheap.

 

Delta can get you from Edmonton to San Juan Jan 8-10 for $574 per person next month and it only takes two stops and 19 1/2 hours to do it! That's only $11,480 for a traveling party of 20, plus extra baggage fees for the gear and a couple days of hotels. Call it a $20k road trip? And maybe you get to do that in both halves of the season, depending on how the schedule goes.

Distance isn't the entire equation when it comes to the cost of air travel, obviously, but Edmonton's closest NASL port of call is Minnesota at the moment, and that's going to be going away. Meanwhile, the Carmelos can puddle jump to Florida four to seven times a year.

 

Edmonton has become the Bermuda of the NASL.