Why MLS will never grow

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by MattWoodworth, Aug 2, 2012.

  1. MattWoodworth

    MattWoodworth New Member

    May 20, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's put it simple:Selling American talent to Europe will get this league no where.

    I could write a book on this,but let's just discuss this one topic at a time.
     
  2. Bucky-O'Hare

    Bucky-O'Hare Member

    Feb 14, 2007
    Ireland
    Club:
    Derry City
    MLS has been growing at a steady rate since the annoucement of RSL and Chivas as expansion teams. Both in terms of standard of play and people in the stands. I see no reason why this won't continue.
     
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  3. Jewelz510

    Jewelz510 Member+

    Feb 19, 2011
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    You think that's all MLS is aiming for?
     
  4. The Artist

    The Artist Member+

    Mar 22, 1999
    Illinois
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You could say that selling the best American talent will keep MLS from competing with mainstream sports leagues in the US. In order to be hugely popular in America it will have to keep the best talent and some of that talent will have to be American.

    It obviously will not keep MLS from growing since MLS is growing. Gradually you sell fewer and fewer players. We already have seen the return of fringe national team players such as Convey, Adu, Feilhaber, maybe Clark. There's not a whole lot of American talent beyond that level currently.

    It'd be silly to impose some sort of blanket strategy of never selling American players. Right now the main avenue for growth is improving the on field product and the stadium experience. Once the soccer fans are watching, then they can worry about creating American stars to sway the casual viewers into tuning in.
     
  5. Twix1138

    Twix1138 Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Selling players helps legitimize the league. So in a way, you have to sell players to keep them, in the long term.

    If we start to produce a lot of talent (meaning other leagues want to buy the talent), that will give more reason for top American players to stay since it is a legitimate league.
     
  6. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is about the money (well not all but most of it), Brazilian players are not going back to Brazil because the league is now "legitimate" they are going back because pay is about the same or close to the same they would get in Europe.

    Selling players makes sense if you do not want to lose them for nothing at the end, if the player is good he will demand more money (even demand better competition) so players will move to better leagues when their contracts are done. Selling them just gives the MLS teams a little money in exchange.
     
  7. Es Brennt

    Es Brennt Member+

    Feb 25, 2003
    Shermer, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    You should probably go ahead and write your book.
     
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  8. looknohands

    looknohands Member+

    Apr 23, 2009
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I somehow doubt that the poster would make it past the first paragraph.
     
  9. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You apparently have been living under a rock for the past 10 or so years it seems.
     
  10. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Welcome to 2001?
     
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  11. Felixx219

    Felixx219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 8, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A lot of business owners would sell their soul to the devil to experience the type of growth for their business as MLS has experienced over the past decade. Not sure how you account for all the SSS, attendance, sponsorship, revenue and everything else if the league isnt growing.
     
  12. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually this is a good model for growth at this stage of the league's development. If MLS can develop a reputation as a feeder league 1) Better players and new fans will be drawn to MLS, 2) teams in bigger leagues will compete for MLS prospects, driving the prices of players up 3) teams can use that money to focus on development and create even better prospects etc
     
  13. C-Bus20

    C-Bus20 Member

    Mar 1, 2009
    Everywhere
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ya youre right becuase showing the world that players from MLS who can play in the best leagues is awful for the sport.....Put your parents computer away.
     
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  14. NC Soccer United

    NC Soccer United BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jan 25, 2011
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
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  15. Arsenalkid700

    Arsenalkid700 Member

    Aug 9, 2011
    New York City
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Make me a novel. It better be good.
     
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  16. MattWoodworth

    MattWoodworth New Member

    May 20, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rather then sell great talent,MLS should loan players.Most of them get loaned out anyways at their European clubs.

    Would you rather loan them or just completely give them away?
     
  17. MattWoodworth

    MattWoodworth New Member

    May 20, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    giving it a second thought,I second that.

    it will deliver.
     
  18. Arsenalkid700

    Arsenalkid700 Member

    Aug 9, 2011
    New York City
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depends on the price. However unlikely it is, if a club comes with the money than we have no choice.
     
  19. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    Get a good editor for your thesis, or at least use MS Word Spellcheck.
     
  20. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS has been steadily growing over the last 6-7 years, so your premise is already wrong.

    Plus, if we refuse to let players leave to Europe, it will discourage players who want to play in Europe someday from signing here, which will hurt the product. In addition, we'd lose out on a bunch of income.

    Growing the league and becoming on par with soccer in England, Spain, Germany, and Italy is not the same thing. We may be a long way from the latter, but MLS is most definitely growing. And, there are great opportunities for soccer to continue to grow, though I think it may be in the lower levels of the pyramid.
     
  21. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Calling @Don Garbage!
     
  22. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  23. Green and BLue

    Green and BLue Member+

    Seattle Sounders FC
    Nov 3, 2003
    Republic of Cascadia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Judging by the level of intelligence demonstrated in the opening post of this thread, I'm guessing that the book will involve many simple words in large fonts and lots of pretty pictures.
     
  24. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i don't know whats worse... the original post or people taking the time to retaliate....

    oh damn, I just did too didn't I?
     
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  25. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    Going back the last ten years, how many MLS players actually get cherry picked by Europe per season? Maybe 5 at most?

    Transfers to Europe is a phenomenon that only affects the top .001% of players in the league. I'd hardly call that a major factor for the league growth.

    You could actually argue that more players need to be transferred in and out of the league. The league would be better served in being more integrated in the international market. If you can sell a player to the premiership for $10,000,000, you can maybe use that money to buy 3 quality players from 2nd tier leagues like Holland or Portugal.
     
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