Why Is There So Few People For Juve Matches ?

Discussion in 'Juventus' started by Ballon d'or, Mar 10, 2004.

  1. Ballon d'or

    Ballon d'or New Member

    Jan 30, 2004
    I watched the highlights of juve-depor yesterday night, and something struck me, something that had struck me before but i had never asked :

    How come one of the most regular, powerful club in europe has so many empty seats during serie A matches and CL ties.
    I mean, yesterday was one of the most important match for juve, but still amybe 25,000 people turned up.

    Is there an explanation to such a low intendance every week ?
     
  2. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
  3. canzano55

    canzano55 Member+

    Jun 23, 2003
    Toronto
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Here's a theory:

    Juve is an unattractive squad with stuck up/indifferent fans.

    That and its unpleasent to sit in that crappy stadium...and its really cold.
     
  4. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Binghamton, NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The biggest factor is the stadium. The fans have complained since day one that the Del Alpi is not fan friendly to watch a game in. Thankfully it's going to be remolded into a more fan friendly stadium. IF the stadium were like the Meazza you'd be seeing a different picture, it would look more full.

    Secondly, Turin has a population of only 400,000. Unlike Milan and Rome which have populations in the millions.
     
  5. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    Is there any way you can try to stop being such an @$$hole?
     
  6. Sardinia

    Sardinia New Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Sardinia, Italy, EU
    ehm...

    http://www.comune.torino.it/torinoaz/a.htm

    900.990
    Abitanti al 31 dicembre 2000

    It was more than 1 million in 1961

    p.s. btw the majority are fans of Torino.
     
  7. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Binghamton, NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well that was a bit off...

    Still, Juve draws better than Torino.
     
  8. Carletto Mazzone

    Carletto Mazzone New Member

    Feb 13, 2004
    Torino fans have not have much to cheer about since the mid 70's........that might have something to do with small turnouts.
     
  9. canzano55

    canzano55 Member+

    Jun 23, 2003
    Toronto
    Club:
    AC Milan
    A little sensitive to rivalry are we?
     
  10. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    If you wanna talk smack, there is a "Rivalry" board just for that.
     
  11. canzano55

    canzano55 Member+

    Jun 23, 2003
    Toronto
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Chill out Sue...I got a soft spot for ya. You are an excellent Italian soccer patriot and that makes you a great gal.

    The thing that makes me mad about teams like Juve and Inter is that they think they can win solely on the advantages of prepared tactics and not on the influence of dynamic players. These teams need players who can create and impress and require that certain freedom to do so. Otherwise the performances turn bland and eventually hurt results. In a way I was kind of dissapointed Juve exited so easily (more ashamed than dissapointed). But like ManU Juve just likes to sit on piles of cash and creep through the player market and picking up obedient/tameable players.

    Anyways lets hope their youth system works out well and maybe we'll see some 'real' Juve talent and restore some excitement back to that club.
     
  12. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    Believe it or not, I really don't mind Milan. It's some of their fans (like you) who strut about lecturing other teams about how they should or shouldn't play or build their clubs. All on the basis of winning a PK shootout in the CL final last season over a team that was missing its best player.

    But yes, I know that's a lot like saying Al Gore should be president of the US right now. Milan won the cup, and there's no argument that they are the best team in Italy right NOW. Given THAT, I hope they can prove to be the best team in Europe as well.

    Just enjoy the success of your team and stop the pontificating - that's all I ask.
     
  13. aguss

    aguss New Member

    Apr 9, 2004
    Seattle
    That has always been the case with Juve all this time specially when match played at Delle Alpi (people dont really like the stadium) and when the games has no BIG meaning anymore....
    Its good that Juve is going to have a new stadium though... more like an english style stadium where audience is very close to the field (although I must say this is a very brave move for Italian soccer).
     
  14. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    Welcome, Aguss. I guess I didn't realize plans for a new stadium were confirmed, and that it would be an "English-style" stadium. Do you have links to this? This would be great. In fact, yesterday, Fabio Capello a couple of days ago was bemoaning the state of Italian stadiums, which alone among most of the big leagues still have unseated sections and barriers around the fans. It'll be quite an interesting experiment to see what happens if Juve moves away from that.
     
  15. aguss

    aguss New Member

    Apr 9, 2004
    Seattle
  16. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    Thanks. So, it's not 100% clear to me - is this project to revamp Delle Alpi beginning this summer? Will Juve be playing at another venue next season?
     
  17. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    About time some other leagues got a clue and realized that, you must cater to the fans. English stlye stadiums are fantastic. Also the intimacy increases the noise and passion.....anything to help the sport in any league...I'm all for it.

    I have been surprised that the few Juve matches that I have seen this season, their stadium was quite empty. It is almost a crime in my eyes...such a famous club.
     
  18. soccer_stallion32

    soccer_stallion32 New Member

    Apr 3, 2004
    Juve will not be playing in a different venue next year they only recently built the Delli Alpi and selling it or moving would be foolish.

    In fact the Delli Alpi was voted one of the best stadiums in Europe. This was based on it's exterior appearence which is one of the best in the world.

    The interior however is the problem the seats are too far away from the field and the seats themselves are like benches, not encouraging fans to come see the games. So what the owners have decided is to take out a big lot of thos bench type seats and put in more executive seats this however will make the capacity of the staduim slightly smaller but will encourage fans to come because of the better seating arrangement

    One other detracting factor from the stadium is that it is on one end of the city where as their older stadium (shared with Torino) was in the center of the city and sold out almost every game like the Meazza
     
  19. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    So, will this renovation be completed over the summer then? Some of the posts/articles from Aguss above implied that it would take longer than that, and during that time, Juve would play somewhere else - that's what I was asking, not whether they were leaving Delle Alpi.
     
  20. soccer_stallion32

    soccer_stallion32 New Member

    Apr 3, 2004
    I cant say for sure but from what I have read is that they will (or should) begin this summer and even if they are not complete by the start of next season I would assume they would return to sharing the Communale with Torino for a while until all the renovations were complete
     

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