Why is Support for Bush Higher Among College Students?

Wow, Do you really believe this nonsense?

 

I'm not with you here.
The genius of humanity, indeed our saving grace, is that we've discovered how to prosper via non-zero sum relationships.
Life is not a strict zero-sum proposition. "If I win then you must lose" is a false dichotomy - and ironically for you, one that many conservatives might find a lot of sympathy for.

 

In my experience, it was the students paying their own way and working part time jobs who were often the most politically active. This probably had to do with their tending to be from lower-income and non-white backgrounds.

Frankly, I find this conservative trend in colleges shocking. I thought universities were supposed to be hotbeds of progressive thinking. Then again, I went to Berkeley, so my perception of such things might be a bit skewed...

 

And you think forcing someone to vote is democratic? Some of the biggest despots forced everyone to vote.

The act of voting may only take a short amount of time, but preperation to make and educated decision between candidates can take a good deal of time. If I do not wish to take the time to educate myself, and do not believe that either of the candidates are drastically different (which is probably as much the case in this country today as it ever has been) then why do you feel the need to force me to vote?

 

Among most of the college students I know (both at BC and at other schools), how conservative they are is directly proportional to the amount of financial aid they are getting and/or hours they are working to put themselves thru school.

 

Taking classes itself is not selfish, but taking classes in order to exploit others is selfish.

You stop killing strawmen.

 

You must be from Harvard by saying so. I admire you.

Life is a zero-sum proposition 99% of the time.

 

Another reason college republicans are so angry is that they resent the school charging them too much for tuition. They feel like duped and stupid and they want to take it out to the little hapless people. Bush made them feel better, powerful and pumped.

 

Are you like the last living Marxist?

 

...and of course we know that the "hapless people" are always Democrats and Republicans are always the rich and powerfull. I suppose when you shovel enough of it you start to believe it. Do some research on your Democratic politicians and say this again.

 

Pay attention. The hapless people are you and I, and the rich and powerful are people who run Halliburton or hold political office. You are fighting for the wrong team, mate.

 

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Why millions of Americans are buying drugs from Canada, the socialist country? The medicine industry is fleecing America.

House18, at least the millionaire Teddy Kennedy is fighting for the little people.

Actually, America is turning to socialism gradually, and college republicans are resentful about it. They want Bush to stop it.

 

Of course and you just keep believing that. The Democrats are for the little man. The Democrats are for themselves first and whoever gives them the most money second...just like the Republicans. Debate it all you want but it's true.

 

The funniest thing about your ramblings is how opposite my political transition has been. I started out going to school very much a Republican. However, as my studies have progressed, the more open my mind has become. Now, I don't consider myself anything except struggling to keep my family's collective head above water.

But I would love to meet the soul that laid waste to you. You obviously started out with a lot of hope for life, and have since been so blazenly jaded that you seem to think that no one can get ahead without fcuking someone else over. How sad.

 

That didn't escape my attention.

If I didn't know any better, I would think he's JoPa's evil twin.

 

Look at the poll itself...

Harvard = Larger amount of privilege, wether you like it or not that is going to equate to more of a conservative lean.

The Poll doesn't even mention wether these students are even "likely voters"! This demographic doesn't turnout historically.

The Poll itself is garbage, it doesn't tell us a friggin' thing...

As a Colorado State student, I can tell you that most of the kids who support Bush, and consider themselves Republican, don't even know why (usually because that's what daddy's affiliation is) they aren't going to be anywhere near a voting booth in Nov. 2004. A Republican friend, and myself were discussing this today, and it pisses both of us off to no end. Both Liberals and Conservatives that don't have a f***ing clue why they associate themselves the way they do.

Having said all that, I'm still looking for a poor Republican to start screaming "class warfare"

I think a lot of people are sick of the English language being co-opted. Words like Freedom, Socialism, Liberal, are being tossed around without proper definition... I'd like someone in this thread to tell me the last time we had a truly free market system in America, and to enlighten us as to why we no longer have it... Also to define whose Freedoms they are talking about when they speak of them.

 

"The poll of 1,202 college students nationwide was taken Oct. 3-12 and it has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points."


You're correct, but that wasn't the way Chris Mathews of MSNBC worded it...

It also stated that 17% more students (compared to 2000) think political involvement shows benefits... Did they ask those 17% who they were likely to vote for? FVCK NO! because they want the # they can manipulate...

Polls can be useful, but they need to be straight-forward, and cover all angles... otherwise they're useless, and all the quibbling is for not.

 

Re: Re: Why is Support for Bush Higher Among College Students?

I will ignore the shoddy sentence structure and ask if reading books/articles is the first step in an understanding of politics, how do you explain Bush?

 

You are exactly the reason I'm glad we don't have 100% voter turnout. We already have enough morons showing up on election day, I'm glad most of you stay home.

 

Rack him.