Why is soccer attendence is Brazil so bad

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by SportBoy333, Jun 23, 2004.

  1. SportBoy333

    SportBoy333 Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    http://geocities.com/worldfootballrankings2004/SouthAmericaTop122.html

    In the top 10 average attendences for clubs in South America Argentine clubs have 9 of the 10 spots. The best attendend Brazilian club only averages over 19,000. Brazil is a lot bigger than Argentina but the top Argentine clubs seem to have a lot more fans. Anyone know why this is ?

    http://geocities.com/worldfootballrankings2004/Top125Leagues.html

    According to that list the Japanese, Turkish, Algerian, Dutch, Indonesian and Russian leagues all get more people per game than the Brazilian league. Isn't that a little embarassing ?
     
  2. topcow

    topcow New Member

    Nov 23, 2000
    New York
    because they don't have soccer specific stadiums?
     
  3. denver_mugwamp

    denver_mugwamp New Member

    Feb 9, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    That's right--the stadiums are really built for use during carnival.
     
  4. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Serious answer here... my guess is that Brazil has a lot more competitive clubs splitting the allegiance of fans than any other country. A high enough standard of play to attract substantial numbers of fans is probably maintained all the way down into the second tier of the major state leagues.
     
  5. Thomas Flannigan

    Feb 26, 2001
    Chicago
    There are many factors but the biggest is crime. Many games are at night and many big cities in Brasil are not very safe at all after dark. With FIFA planning the 2014 World Cup there it should be interesting. Two debacles in a row after Soouth Africa.
    I have a friend down in Rio who is urging my wife and I to visit as soon as possible because pretty soon it will be too dangerous for us to contemplate a visit.
    I would be VERY CAREFUL about going to a soccer game in brasil.
     
  6. okcomputer

    okcomputer Member

    Jun 25, 2003
    dc
    The biggest factor is that none of their best players play in Brazil they all play in europe.
     
  7. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Is that not true in Argentina as well, or do Europeans only liek Brazilian players?
     
  8. Andre_Fla81

    Andre_Fla81 New Member

    Feb 28, 2004
    Brasil
    In one word: mismanagement. From both CBF and the clubs.

    Basically, the fans are treated like ***t.

    Just take my example: I've been boycotting (in the sense of buying merchandising, really tried to stop watching matches on TV but I couldn't,hehe) the NT for 9 years (purchased a jersey in 1995) and my club for over 7 years ( purchased a cap in early 1997) and can't foresee it ending in the near future.

    It's a pity, we could have one of the, if not THE greatest league on Earth. However, with the kind of people that have been in charge of our professional game in the last 2 or 3 decades that will NEVER, NEVER happen, unfortunatelly. Sad.
     
  9. TRICOLOR BRASIL

    Feb 5, 2004
    Brazil
    Ok, but all this sh!t you said doesnt make any sense. First, 90% of the games in brazil are in the afternoon. Second, the danger in brazil is exactly the same in the morning and in the night, and its not exagerated as you say. I live in Sao Paulo since I was born (Im 20) and Ive never been robbed in my life.
    About the argentinian clubs, I doubt Boca Juniors has half number of suporters that Sao Paulo, for example, has.

    The two main reasons for low attendance in brazil are:

    1- No confort at the stadiums (No parking places, no good food, dirtyness, difficulty to buy the tickets, etc...)

    2- Violence by some groups of supporters (like the hooligans) that use to punch whoever wears a jersey which is not his teams.

    And it also depends on the competition and the team moment. Sao Paulo attendance in Libertadores 2004 was higher than real madrid attendance in Champions League, for example. Morumbi Stadium got packed all the matches.
     
  10. ilv2

    ilv2 New Member

    May 30, 2004
    L'abbaye de Leffe
    if I lived in Brazil i'd be on the beach scoping out the babes.
     
  11. GianPaolo

    GianPaolo New Member

    Apr 20, 2004
    Long Island, NY
    In Brazil there are less soccer fans then Argentina because most of the people are out commeting crimes there.
     
  12. TRICOLOR BRASIL

    Feb 5, 2004
    Brazil
    You idiot still around? I thought you got tired of being BS little bitch. No one wants to read what you write, just give up trying to be someone interesting and go back to your bed so your father can touch you.
     
  13. GianPaolo

    GianPaolo New Member

    Apr 20, 2004
    Long Island, NY
    Maybee you should take your own advice.
     
  14. Eric B

    Eric B Member

    Feb 21, 2000
    the LBC
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now that's how you do an "FYP"!
     
  15. GianPaolo

    GianPaolo New Member

    Apr 20, 2004
    Long Island, NY
    Look now we have these F u c k i n Brazilian indians making quotes that have been made up. Pathetic, i can see why other brazilians hate you.
     
  16. cl_hanley

    cl_hanley New Member

    Sep 3, 2001
    Costa Mesa
    Interesting thread.
     
  17. Treetaliano

    Treetaliano Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    Charlotte, NC
    Nothing says "Great thread" like GianPaolo and Thomas Flannigan posting on the same page. Now all we need is that wang MIGkiller to post and the triangle will be completed.

    Kinda like the Tri-Force in Legend of Zelda.
     
  18. Chizzy

    Chizzy Member+

    United States
    Aug 7, 2003
    Upper Left, USA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :eek:

    :eek:
     
  19. MIGkiller

    MIGkiller Member+

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    May 9, 2003
    Rio de Janeiro
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Right in time, Treelover.

    Brazilian stadiums have such low attendances because half of the fans have died in their way for reasons like being bitten by poison snakes in the streets, kidnaped and stabbed by howler monkeys, trampled by favela riots or malaria fits. I know this because that's what the Simpsons episode about Brazil said.
     
  20. (TxT)

    (TxT) Member+

    Jun 9, 2004
    Tampa, FL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Their money is very gay too.
     
  21. Andre_Fla81

    Andre_Fla81 New Member

    Feb 28, 2004
    Brasil
  22. TRICOLOR BRASIL

    Feb 5, 2004
    Brazil
     
  23. GianPaolo

    GianPaolo New Member

    Apr 20, 2004
    Long Island, NY
    and your mom is a slut.
     
  24. The Double

    The Double Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 11, 2002
    Denver
    I think the discussion is about why attendance in the league is subpar, especially for a great soccer nation like Brazil.
     
  25. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
    There are several factors including the brasilian economic, stadium security, and that any young talent is sent rightaway to Europe.
     

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