Why is Shep such an artard? {R}

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by cliffkram, May 8, 2004.

  1. cliffkram

    cliffkram Member

    May 4, 2003
    Brum via NYC
    After Glenn scored in like the 6th minute i noticed something that Shep does after EVERY goal. It goes like this...

    Steve: "And GLENN SCORES!!!"
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    (about 10 seconds of silence)
    Shep: Oh BABY he couldnt have done it BETTER if he WANTED TO!!!
     
  2. moejash

    moejash New Member

    Apr 30, 2004
    nj
    i miss joe tolleson
     
  3. sanariot

    sanariot Member

    Nov 19, 2001
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shep just misses the days when he used to suck Giorgio Chinaglia's c*o*c*k.
     
  4. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dear Shep,

    Please stop stealing my lines you putz.

    Love,

    John Davidson
     
  5. Arisrules

    Arisrules Member

    Feb 19, 2000
    Washington, DC
    haha.


    Sometimes I think Shep is high on something.

    What was up with that McDonalds thing. I nearly chocked every time he said it.


    Also, Joe Tolleson and who else used to do the broadcasts?


    Where is he now?
     
  6. metrocorazon

    metrocorazon Member

    May 14, 2000
    JT does pxp though, Shep is the ANALyst not a good one but an analyst none the less.

    Oh and Tommy Smyth did the analysis before Messing. I think he only does ESPN broadcast now.
     
  7. Arisrules

    Arisrules Member

    Feb 19, 2000
    Washington, DC
    Yea, it was Smyth. That was a fantastic combo.


    Anyone know why they were let go?


    Seems asinine to me, as those two guys rip apart any commentating duo in America, including the pop band duo of Stone and Wynalda.
     
  8. sanariot

    sanariot Member

    Nov 19, 2001
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    JP DellaCamera?

    I hope he comes back soon!
     
  9. metrocorazon

    metrocorazon Member

    May 14, 2000
    He's another pxp man. I think Steve C said tonight JP will be back for the CHI game. Was that just me hearing things?
     
  10. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    JP is either the second PBP guy for hockey, or he's covering the Women's game against Mexico tomorrow? Probably the latter. JP's the first guy this year, but when he has a conflict with ESPN or ABC, Cangelosi takes his place.

    I just don't like Shep, if for no other reason than his voice just grates on me
     
  11. Matrim55

    Matrim55 Member+

    Aug 14, 2000
    Berkeley
    Club:
    Connecticut
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't be so hard on yourself. Shep's voice is grating, but he's also a complete idiot.
     
  12. tkgunn

    tkgunn Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NJ
    Did JP do the Columbus game? They might have something worked out so that he only calls home games
     
  13. wandering soccerdog

    Mar 29, 2003
    You guys are nuts. "Cangialosi and Messing" and/or "Dellacamera and Messing" are the best local soccer broadcast team in the country, and certainly the best soccer broadcast team that the New York market has had since the days of Jim Karvallas and Seamus Mallin.

    The only other local team that is half-way competent right now is Dave Johnson and Tom Rongen in DC.

    Everyone else...I find myself rolling my eyes up into my head for half the game and fighting the urge to bang my head against the wall.

    Messing is remarkably entertaining, experienced, and wonderfully opinionated. Cangialosi is incredibly well informed, has a great broadcast voice, and shows more respect for MLS than MLS shows for MLS.

    I honestly don't know what all you guys are seeing and hearing in your collectively dull brains.
     
  14. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You are damning with faint praise here. Even though you are probably right, it still reflects very poorly upon the rest of the broadcast teams in the league.
     
  15. The Creeper

    The Creeper New Member

    Jul 18, 2000
    Up in MA
    Derek Rae and Tommy Smyth were the best in 2000. They actually made the game more enjoyable to watch.
     
  16. bukie2k

    bukie2k Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    New Jersey
    Shep is a refreshing voice in the booth. He tells it like it is, for better or for worse. I know I've said it before, but would you rather have someone like John Sterling covering the Metros, someone who makes everything rosy and bright even when it isn't? He is the reason I never listen to Yankee games on the radio and I have been a lifelong fan. Shep may not be the most knowledgeable of analysts but he has enough been there done that credibility to make some very good observations on a game. Keep hawking those Happy Meals Shep, you have a fan here.
     
  17. sweeper5

    sweeper5 New Member

    Jan 4, 2003
    Shep is amusing sometimes but says a lot of dumb things and might be better off just keeping his mouth shut instead of trying to analyze every play. Two examples last night:

    1.Blaming Vaca for the second goal. Clark loses the ball in the middle of the field about 35 yards from goal. Ziadie tries to make an all or nothing play on the ball (instead of dropping and delaying the counter), then let's Moore get behind him. Then no defensive cover for Ziadie. Where the hell were the was Bonseau on that play? And Shep tries to blame Vaca!

    2. Toward the end of the game Shep said Bonseau actually had a good game. On first goal Pope goes with Donavan, who makes a sweet backheel touch to Ching who scores. Where the hell was Bonseau on that play? Wandering around the midfield after getting suckered out of position. Bonseau (central defender) nowhere to be found on second goal. On the third goal, Donavan flicks to ball back to himself and volleys the ball into the goal while Bonseau drops (instead of pressuring the ball). How many times did Bonseau just kick to ball mindlessly out of bounds? And Shep said he had a good game.

    If Shep was really intelligent, he would have seen that the Metros lack team defensive organization as follows:

    1. Too much individual chasing instead of team (group) chasing.
    2. Team not tight (compact) enough on defense leaving huge gaps, i.e., too much space between the backs and midfield - either the backs need to step up or the midfield needs to drop and stop chasing the ball without support.
    3. Back line retreats too much into own penalty area instead of stepping up to pressure the ball and squeeze space.

    Now Shep is fixated on blaming the midfield for the team giving up goals instead of the lack of team defensive organization and intelligent group pressure, and at least one major liability on the back line (Bonseau).
     
  18. CRSvideo

    CRSvideo Member

    Jul 24, 1999
    New York, NY
    I have to say that I've been impressed with Steve Cangialosi's play by play for metro matches. Its not something he's done for very long (as far as I know he's spent most of his career in the studio doing sports reports (for a long time he was doing NY1's daily late night sports show)), but he's not bad at all. And (again from what I know of his history) he's not someone who's followed soccer too much, but despite that seems to have a decent grasp of the game. He's learned quite a lot pretty quickly. I suspect he's just filling in at the moment while JP is doing something else, but for someone with little game calling experience of any kind, and someone who's relatively new to soccer, he's not bad at all for a fill in guy.

    Still my favorite voice durring a game is Ray Hudson. I remember one Metro match he colored a few years ago (in that poor season with Sasa and "el Ferry" Zambrano) that I watched with my girlfriend and she just found the stuff he was saying histerical. Really adds entertainment to the match (and that year we needed something to entertain us), and not at the match's expence. Hope he goes back to the booth somewhere now that he's no longer coaching (either on FSW or ESPN).

    chris...
     
  19. bukie2k

    bukie2k Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    New Jersey
    Shep has goalie DNA in his blood. He will never knock a back-line whether it is deserved or not.
     
  20. red lass

    red lass New Member

    May 2, 2002
    Tommy Smyth if I remember correctly was always knocking the Metros. How can people feel he was the best. Someone asked why the Metros got rid of him and Rae. I heard that the money they were making you could sign a good player with it.Better they get a player than an announcer.
     
  21. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    I've got to listen to a few MSG broadcasts. Shep's not that bad for being on a local team broadcast. Sure, he makes claims like last night's that Pope and Bonseau had a good game (5 goals allowed is not a good game!). But that's not too bad compared to some other things I've caught on local broadcasts.
     
  22. Go2NY

    Go2NY New Member

    Feb 19, 2000
    Croton-on-Hudson NY
    I enjoy Shep - would like Cangliosi to tell me the player names as the game goes on - I cant see their numbers, their individual shoe colors or thei haircuts from the distant tv angles - I want to rely on my play by play man to do play by play when I watch TV.

    When I go to the Swamp, I do my thing properly with colors and cheers, thank you
     
  23. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Man, you guys are harsh.....but funny though.

    If you compare Shep to color commentators of other sports, I think he does an above average job. Right now, the only analyst in any sport I really care for is Phil Simms in football games. If you watch NBA games, Bill Walton changes his opinions more times than I change my underwear and Tom Tolbert sounds like he should be working for Vince McMahon.
     
  24. metros11

    metros11 Member

    Sep 11, 1999
    Highlands of NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't mind Shep at all. Although from time to time he does show just how much he knows about soccer. Perfect example is last thursday's MSR. He was talking about Paul Caliguiri being inducted into the Soccer Hall of Fame. He mentioned his famous "Shot heard around the world". The one according to Shep, Caliguiri scored in the dying minutes of the match. Of course everyone else remembers Paul scoring in the first half and the US National team holding on for dear line for a good 60 minutes. Oh well.
     
  25. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot New Member

    Remember: If the wall weren't there it wouldn't have been a foul.

    Thanks Shep.

    I suppose it the posts and net weren't there it wouldn't have been a goal either.
     

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