why fifa let host teams play directly in the world cup?

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by hkkinggg, Dec 25, 2002.

  1. hkkinggg

    hkkinggg New Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    I mean why should host teams shouldnt play qualifying rounds just because they host the turnument? Think about, if they played the qualifying round and couldn't make it to the WC. How abou the team that was sopposed to go instead of the host team that imaginably didnt cualify? :)
    I will finally say this!! To host a WC and participate in it as a team is totally different. Isn't it????
     
  2. RutgerB

    RutgerB New Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    occupied Dietsland
    You really can't think of reasons why the host is automaticly qualified ?
     
  3. hkkinggg

    hkkinggg New Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    I mean why play in a championship if you can not qualify for it? If you can qualify, then why not do it? What kind of right does a host have to play in it directly? What questions me the most is that lately, most of the hosts were not even in the previous ones. Wouldnt it be more fair to other teams who might have qualified instead of the host team, if they played the qualifying round?
    Can you answer these questions before talking about the reasons, and I can think of many reasons but, none of the reasons that I CAN think of is the answer of the quastiones i had. If you know something that I dont know plase share it with me, or give me a good reason cus I need to know.
     
  4. Jay510

    Jay510 Member+

    Apr 21, 2002
    Gadsden Purchase, AZ
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    **PERSONAL ATTACK DELETED -- SACHIN***.........Korea and Japan were in the previous cups.....USA, Italy, Mexico, Spain, Argentina, all were in their previous cups........France an exception but they won the world cup..........Please tell me when a host team didnt do well in the world cup........this disucssion is over, im recommending this thread to be erased because if lunacy
     
  5. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I'll try to help here.

    It's really quite simple- the host nation needs to have a team in the competition for the purposes of maintaining local interest (and raking in local dollars) keep be maintained. Can you imagine a World Cup without the host team? A World Cup should consume everything else going on in a given nation for that month; it would be hard to do that without the host team.
     
  6. hkkinggg

    hkkinggg New Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    Well, I can be an idiot but you are not very bright either. I can see that you have a problem with what i said, since usa didn't qualify for the world cup before the one they hosted, as well as France. If they did well in the world cup, they can verywell qualify for it, or can they?


    Are you telling me that no one will watch the games from host country when their team is not playing???????????? No public team no attendence? How can soccer be the best sport in the world if they need a host team play in it directly to gather publick attention?? Their country deserving the hosting doesnt make their team deserve to be playing in it. I am not trying to go against host countries here. I am questionin whater it is fair or not to let a team who didnt win the last wc play in the next one without being have to qualify for it. Why they dont do the same with other sports such as basketball???
     
  7. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Uh, yes, they did. They were in Group A, with Italy, Austria and Czechoslovakia.

    Some will watch/spend money, but not as many. The level of interest generated in a given country by having the local team present cannot be measured.

    Soccer would be the greatest sport in the world even if no one showed up to watch. The game on the field is what makes it great. But the income generated by local interest is the reason hosts get an automatic bid.

    No one "hosts" the NBA playoffs. They're all in one nation. Same with the NFL. The question of "host" nations doesn't arise there. The Olympics is a multi-sport event, so the interest would be there regardless.

    Bear in mind that there are people who earn their livelihood by deciding whether a nation could have a successful W/C without their NT being in it. Obviously, they concluded that it wouldn't work as well.

    BTW, soccer doesn't need to emulate any other sport (least of all, baseball, hockey, American football or basketball) in any way.
     
  8. Chachi King

    Chachi King New Member

    Mar 14, 2002
    Host teams are always good enough to make it into the World Cup. Why do you think that Australia, China, or Canada (two world class economic nations who definitely can put on a good international festival) haven't been awarded the Cup yet? Their teams aren't that good.

    Korea qualified for 4 straight World Cups (5 overall)before 2002, and given the level of teams in Asia it was a sure bet they would have qualified again.

    Japan, although it didn't even qualify before the 1997 decision, had a solid plan for 2002 - which worked - at that time. Their leaders started preparing for the World Cup some time in the 1980's, and they've made good on their longtime plans on the soccer pitch as well.

    These are the two examples to which I'm thinking you're referring to. So, basically, countries that host the World Cup are good enough to play in them. You will not see Australia or Canada hosting until their team gets much better. I think China has a Japan-type plan for way into the future, so they'll get it when their time comes, but not anytime soon.
     
  9. Mc.Nitro3000

    Mc.Nitro3000 New Member

    Dec 14, 2002
    well if the host dont get in the championship not many ppl will go 2 c the matches
     
  10. GoHawks4

    GoHawks4 Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You guys all bit!
     
  11. hkkinggg

    hkkinggg New Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    I disagree, after if the host team eleminated from the qualifying round, hosts would chear for the team that beat them, and tickets would be cheaper so not only rich people would be able to watch it.

    They should let S Arabia host the turnument, they had been in many WC, they might even win it, since south korea had their best perform at home.
     
  12. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    They should let S Arabia host the turnument, they had been in many WC, they might even win it

    :rolleyes:

    OK, that's it, thread's over. It was all a joke.
     
  13. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
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    I like cheese.

    ...

    Either this thread withers away or I'm gonna close it soon. If you want to have a serious discussion about this topic (it's probably possible) I suggest you start another thread.
     
  14. biosoccer

    biosoccer New Member

    why fifa let host teams play directly in the world cup?

    Because after all the money they have invested on the WC, the least they can get is a spot... don't you think? Money... it's all about money...
     
  15. soccerhooligan33

    soccerhooligan33 New Member

    Oct 31, 2002
    Clifton, VA
    exactly, if they couldnt be garunteed a spot why would any of the African teams (without already constructed facilities) even bid. The Asian world cup would probably have no bidders and that would suck.

    NB
     
  16. Kebbie Gazauzkas

    FC Krasnodar
    Bulgaria
    Mar 29, 2007
    Sofia, Bulgaria
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Bulgaria
    I agree with the general sentiment that it would unreasonable not to award a spot to the host country (as it would otherwise take away from the atmosphere of the tournament and fewer countries would be willing to bid). In addition, if a tournament host was to play in the qualifiers, the impact of any refereeing controversies in favour of the national team in question would be magnified (there would be a perception that FIFA is trying to ensure the qualification of the host nation's squad).
    However, I am generally against the awarding of the World Cup to countries that have no reasonable prospects of qualifying on their own (Qatar have been improving, but they still only have an outside shot to make it to the 2014 World Cup).
     
  17. Pyros

    Pyros Member

    Sep 6, 2009
    La Coruña
    Club:
    Valencia CF
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Qatar will receive the South Africa treatment (ie not getting out of the group phase), looking forward to it.
     
  18. KenXC

    KenXC New Member

    Aug 26, 2004
    Maryland
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At long last... I've had this thread bookmarked and have checked it every day for more than 7 years hoping for an insightful resoponse. Thank you Kebbie!
     
  19. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Did someone bet you that you couldn't find the oldest dead thread on bigsoccer?

    Well, if so, it looks like you won.
     
  20. Kebbie Gazauzkas

    FC Krasnodar
    Bulgaria
    Mar 29, 2007
    Sofia, Bulgaria
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Bulgaria
    KenXC, cheers, I like discussions of that nature! :)

    Dr. Wankler, nah, though I have to admit that this (the fishing for old topics) used to be an unfortunate habit of mine ;). However, someone had already bumped this thread when I decided to post my response (but apparently his/her comment, which was from four or five days ago, has now been deleted).
     
  21. Deathstar

    Deathstar Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Syd Er Knee
    Club:
    Central Coast Mariners
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Wensleydale

    I like a nice bit of Wensleydale myself.
     

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