Why don't we have a Hernadez or Dos Stantos?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by aquablue, Jun 27, 2010.

  1. aquablue

    aquablue Member

    Jun 30, 2009
    Why can't we produce a Chicharito (sp?) Hernandez or Dos Stanos, skilled players with fine technique? What are we doing wrong? Why arn't we following the mexican model of free flowing technical football and why arn't we hiring mexican coaches and modeling our development system after theirs?

    Why don't we want to move in that direction in the US? What are we afraid of? Surely there is that talent somewhere, but why isn't it being developed properly?
     
  2. Tmagic77

    Tmagic77 Member+

    Feb 10, 2003
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Mexico? Are you kidding me? Why not model ourselves on Brazil or Holland or Germany?
     
  3. jschuck12001

    jschuck12001 Member

    United States
    Jun 24, 2007
    Tampa
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who needs them, those guys didn't even win their group and they are about to be disposed by Argentina very shortly. There are about 500 players I would ask that question about rather than those 2 players.
     
  4. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mexico has some good up and coming players but the problem is that they have no one for central midfield.:D Go USA!
     
  5. aquablue

    aquablue Member

    Jun 30, 2009
    Ok, but why can't we develop a young skilled outfield playerwho is coveted by a team like Man U like Hernandez?
     
  6. TabLalas

    TabLalas Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why are u asking stupid questions?
     
  7. ty webb

    ty webb Member

    Aug 28, 2005
    NYC
  8. aquablue

    aquablue Member

    Jun 30, 2009
    Why is it a stupid question? If we can't develop guys with good touch on the ball, we'll end up like England.. all hype, no substance..
     
  9. Otergod

    Otergod Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    indianapolis
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lets hold off on Hernandez until he actually does something at ManU. Lets not forget that we've had several youth products go over to big named teams (though failed to capitalize). John Thorrington was once with ManU (though their youth team).
     
  10. Scott e Dio93

    Scott e Dio93 New Member

    Jul 1, 2006
    Montevideo, URU
    You're smoking beans. Why no put real big young players: Suarez, Cavani, Messi, Aguero, Sanchez.

    US does better job producting young talent, but we've biggest idiots runnings. MLS has done a better job producing young American talent than EPL producing young English talent.
     
  11. Scott e Dio93

    Scott e Dio93 New Member

    Jul 1, 2006
    Montevideo, URU
    We had like 6 players at Man U.
     
  12. Werdman89

    Werdman89 Member+

    May 27, 2008
    Boston, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and if we develop talent like Mexico we'll end up 2nd in Concacaf qualifying and 2nd in our World Cup group...come on, awful example.
     
  13. Otergod

    Otergod Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    indianapolis
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well, at least the 2 Mexico options were realistic in the next decade(s) :D
     
  14. Otergod

    Otergod Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    indianapolis
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    exactly my point to say "lets hold off until he does something" :D
     
  15. Gioca

    Gioca Member

    Jun 13, 2004
    Hartford
    Club:
    US Città di Palermo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why would we want these average players from an average team?
     
  16. terps

    terps Member+

    Dec 27, 2009
    Overland Park
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Instead of quibbling over OP's use of examples, the point is, why can't the US produce legitimately skillful, transcending type goal-scorers. Altidore is like a Heskey, just a big body, lumbering his way toward goal. We have relied on the English model for too long with McBride, Ching, etc. At the local level, we push these big, strong, fast kids who just never learn artistry because they are more developed physically growing up, and never have to become inventive. See it every day all across the country, every club, every high school, etc.
     
  17. Scott e Dio93

    Scott e Dio93 New Member

    Jul 1, 2006
    Montevideo, URU
    Dos Santos like Adu. Hernandez is too soon to say anything about him, Hernandez is could be mexico's Johnson.
     
  18. Otergod

    Otergod Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    indianapolis
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    that isnt b/c we've been "following" the english model, its b/c the youth level are measured by results. Rather then developing the player, they aim to win. And that means picking up the best athletes and 1 trick horses who rely on physical abilities to make up for their lack of ability
     
  19. Otergod

    Otergod Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    indianapolis
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ah but Dos Santos made the Mexican WC squad and starts :p
     
  20. TabLalas

    TabLalas Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, what has Hernandez done to warrant the butt-kissing?
     
  21. StarvingGator

    StarvingGator Member

    Jun 22, 2007
    The Hospital Bar
    There are some very skilled Americans in the youth ranks. There's no Messi, but that's an unreal standard. There's been a subtle change towards the skilled instead of the physical in US soccer. It's not where it needs to be, but it's much better than it was a decade ago.
     
  22. Scott e Dio93

    Scott e Dio93 New Member

    Jul 1, 2006
    Montevideo, URU
    USNT has terrible administration.:mad:
     
  23. Otergod

    Otergod Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
    indianapolis
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    agreed, and im interested in seeing what happens with Lletget
     
  24. terps

    terps Member+

    Dec 27, 2009
    Overland Park
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's just say the English model, via English DOC's in clubs and state ODP programs in the 36 years I have been in soccer in numerous states around the country, have been a significant influence on our system to date. Hard to stop it, when everywhere you turn there's a guy in charge of development with an English accent. I too believe things are changing, but yes, the winning at lower levels is also a function of the people making money off soccer, pushing the multiple league formats (local, MRL, super y, etc.), tournaments, etc., as if pushing more competitions (which is their cash-cow) makes for better players.
     
  25. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jack Mac and Felix Garcia look like they could be that good someday.
     

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