Why can't other MLS team supporters groups be like Section 8?

Relegation. Maybe expansion would help,too.

But definately Relegation.

 

The above items aren't allowed except on the day of MLS Cup 2003 when Section 8 worked something out to bring flagpoles in. Basically, something has to be worked out between the Galaxy FO and the supporters sections. I guess negotiations are still going on.

 

Basically it boils down to the Fire front office. THey understand the need for fans like the ones in section 8. Other teams however dont care and wish those kinds of fans will go away. They only care about selling tickets, which is a good thing, but they also need to think about creating an atmosphere and helping fans to BE FANS. Just like they help fans who sit in the sidelines with all this stupid gimmicks.

It starts from the top and this enables the people in Section 8 to do their thing and recruit people. In other stadiums even tho fans try they get harrassed and people get thrown out for doing things like throwing conffetti or even standing. Thats not good if you bring a buddy to a game and he throws confetti and then all the sudden hes whisked away by security guards. People dont wanna put up with that and never comeback again. Specially if this was one your first times visiting the team.

 

Isn't the main Fire supporters group called the Barn Burners, with "Section 8" its unofficial nickname?

Are the Ultras and other supporters groups located in Section 8 as well?

 

Because we can't all be polish pricks thinking we are still back in eastern europe.

 

right

the best you can aspire to is to be a racist lout from middle america

 

He is actually referring to specific incidents that the Ultras have had with KC fans. Of course not knowing that won't stop you from launching a self-righteous attack that has no real defense.

 

Anyway - let's just say that you can find jerks everywhere - but back to the question.

I would argue that the DC fans are close to the Fire fans as far as organization and game day experience. Those two teams share executives who want that experience in the stadium, and have the power to help make it happen. Kevin Payne and Peter Wilt both deserve kudos from MLS fans everywhere for their efforts.

I'm puzzled as to why the "Northend" in Columbus seemed to implode. It rocked the first year of Crew Stadium. They had a microphone, the worlds to "yellow soccer team" even got put on the jumbotron, but by MLS Cup 2001, it had all but died.

 

oh, im sorry

i did not realize THAT I was being offensive

i guess i'll be getting back on the boat and going back to where the heck i came from so that you won't be exposed to those damn foreigners who do not live up to your standards

 

I'm just saying that you should understand that he speaks of his experiences with some of the Fire Ultras.

Calm down. Please realize that nobody told you to "go back from where you came from". You simply took offense (understandably) to a statement that was not intended to be racist. Should it have been worded differently? Yes. Was he saying that the entire Polish nation acts this way? If he is, he should be condemned, but I kind of know the guy, and I'm fairly sure that he is not making that statement.

 

well, if he had some trouble with the ULTRAS he should have said so and there would not have been an issue

but he did not

so it is somewhat understandable that i took offense to a statement that was what it was

this is a soccer forum and a political forum, i'm assuming that we mean what we say and will not then engage in double speak or the spinning of a simple statement

 

I believe the correct question is why can't other MLS front offices be like Chicago or DC?

Sachin

 

Or like Metro.
Sure, it's easy and fun to pick on the MFO, and sometimes they're fully deserving - trust us, we know, because we do it too. But nearly every problem that Metros supporters have with our current situation has the NJSEA, not the team, at its root. We have our differences to be sure, but for the most part the Metro FO is willing to cooperate with us.

 

I don't get it. Why would we want to be 'like' them (and that's nothing against them)? We want to be like ourselves. It's a fool's errand, anyway. Different people, different place, different way of doing things, different context.

 

No.

Yes.

Explanation: Section 8 is the name given to the side of the stadium in which the supporters stand. The Barn Burners are one of the multiple supporters groups/clubs/loose affiliations that make up S8. The others include the Ultras (who tend to Polish, but aren't necessarily pricks), Mike Ditka Street Crew (who tend to be pricks, but aren't necessarily Polish) and scores of supporters who aren't in any group. The Arsonists is yet another group, but they occupy the section directly to one side of Section 8 proper and are often very very drunk.

 

that should be the official definition for section 8 from here on.

 

At the same time, we've had our share of problems with the Soldier Field people, but the Fire have helped tremendously on that end, to the point where we meet with stadium security and management at least once a year, if not more. Heck, I've got the head of security's cell phone number. That willingness to mediate makes a huge difference.

And the difference between Barnburners 1871 and Section 8 is that one is a supporters group, the other a supporters section.

Later,
COZ

 

Re: Re: Why can't other MLS team supporters groups be like Section 8?

Good point, but I do want to have the success of Section 8.

A problem that I observe in KC may be the fact that until 2002, you had to be a Mystic to stand in the Cauldron. I assume this was done to protect us from the types that want to sit down and not listen to anyone. It was opened to anyone in 2002, and every game we are advertised before the game and at one point during the game. Still I know there are still many who are under the impression that you need special tickets or need to pay some sort of dues to get into the section. Security, like most places is an issue as well. We've had some absurd incidents with them that appeared as if they just wanted to go on a power trip.

That said, the section is growing, and I do see new faces every match. I also think Curt Johnson is trying to work with us.

 

In Los Angeles we have the Coffee Bean club.

That is you stand in line at the Coffee Bean for the first half of the match, then sit quietly in your seat trying not to spill your coffee during the second half.

Club size: 10k to 15k (some with soda instead of coffee)

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I enjoyed sitting next to the transplanted Section 8 at MLS Cup 2003 last year!

I don't think the Riot Squad, Galaxians, Ultras, any other group I may have forgotten plan on getting together anytime soon or ever.

 

Changed it just a little...

 

The interesting thing about DC is how we've evolved a fair number of supporter groups. All of you know about the Screaming Eagles, Barra Brava and La Norte. We've also got a couple of new groups who aren't part of the BigSoccer community as much.

Of course, this leads to a lot of fragmentation in where people stand/sit.

But, slowly, all three groups are growing.

Sachin

 

Section 8 is the name for the supporters' block behind (and this season, to one side of) the south goal. Members of many different individual clubs (Barn Burners 1871, Fire Ultras 98, Arsonists, MDSC, etc.) all have members who take residence there along with a large number of unaffiliateds.

Section 8 and Barn Burners 1871 are somewhat related in that BB1871 had a big part in making it what it is, but they are not synonymous.

 

Re: Re: Why can't other MLS team supporters groups be like Section 8?

You bet.