Who's the dumbest coach in the NCAA

Sorry for not being in the know, but what dumb things did Alford do?

 

What did Bowden and Alford do? Let me rephrase... What did Alford do, and what has happened now at FSU?

You know... a profession that once employed Adolph Rupp and Bear Bryant really has no business condemning coaches for a few drinks and a good time with some women. Married or not- that's for their families to deal with. Fire them if necessary, but this high-and mighty approach is sickening.

 

If you think those pictures are the main reason they want to get rid of Eustachy, think again. Salary: $1 million. Record: 17-14. These type of things are easier to overlook (by alumni, boosters, press, etc) when your man is very successful. But when he's not, stuff like this just makes your institution look BAD.

 

Roll Tide, it's rolling baby.

 

Gotcha. But a link might provide more information. What are the circumstances here? Has the student/player been tried yet? Has he been formally charged with anything? Is he suspended pending the outcome of a trial, or for the season regardless of the outcome?

I am in no way a defender of rape, but there have been occasions in the past where the defendant lied, or identified the wrong person. Let's imagine for a moment that this will turn out to be one of those cases. The player will have lost a year and had his name dragged through the mud for nothing. But if he's convicted, Alford can dismiss him from the team permanently with a clear conscience. Obviously, Pierce can't play games, as the "guilty until proven innocent" crowds would eat him alive on the road. But by allowing Pierce to practice with the team, Alford is demonstrating a willingness to wait until a court of law had had its say before reaching his own conclusions- something this poll does not do.

My vote goes to Eustachy.

 

I wouldn't call Eustachy dumb. His actions were dumb, sure, but he's clearly a problem drinker and his transgressions are a result of his alcoholism rather than low intelligence. And he has reportedly been in therapy since April, before all the controversy broke out. I'm not excusing his actions by any means, but far more intelligent people than I have gone down the spiral of addiction.

Judging by this week's SI article, I'd have to say Mike Price. He was completely clueless as to the kind of scrutiny that came with the Alabama job, and getting two strippers into his hotel room while at a very public function was just silly.

And Bowden is not dumb. He's just a master recruiter (and a poor tactician) who likes to run a very very loose ship. He does what he does because he knows he can get away with it.

 

Ugh, did you have to open this can of worms? It's an incredibly long story, and the fact of the matter is, no one really knows what happened or who's lying or what's involved. Pierre Pierce was accused of sexually assaulting (NOT raping) a (rumor has it) female basketball player. It eventually got settled out of court and bargained down to a lesser charge, one that I'm not even sure is that big. Pierce got probation (I think.) It was very definitely Pierce involved, but the girl absolutely refused to let her name out or get involved in any way with it.

Alford stood by Pierce during the process, and Pierce did not play at all this year. This story, big enough as it was, got turned into an absolute circus by certain women's groups on campus. Far be it from me to condemn them just for being women's groups, but these people made all kinds of hoopla, condemning him before the legal process even got started, then basically calling him a rapist and all sorts of other things, when rape wasn't even ever the charge. After the deal came through and everything was pretty much done as far as the law and the parties were concerned, these people continued to press the issue, protesting all first semester and trying to get the University to punish him much worse than the legal system did. They just would not let the issue die, and it got really, really old after awhile, at least for those of us on campus.

My opinion is that Alford did the right thing with him. In this society, you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, and I don't think some people realized that. Obviously, once the legal system did its thing, he punished his player. As many problems as Alford has had, I don't think his conduct in this case was in any way criminal, bad, or much of anything. He was just a coach standing by his player. What is he supposed to do, condemn him before he's even gotten a chance to get his say in? Pierce was tried, convicted, and nearly hanged by the court of public opinion, never mind what the law said.

 

i would have to vote for nolan richardson III at tennessee tech, brought a gun into the gym and got fired

 

This poll would include practically the entire slate of Div I NCAA past and present football and basketball coaches if you listed every coach who has ever "stood by" a key player until "proven guilty". Tom Osborne leaps immediately to mind.

 

Sorry for the worms, but I hadn't heard anything about this at all, which was why I asked the question about Alford's presence in the poll.

If the facts are as you state, Alford did exactly what he should have done, and has no business in the poll.

 

You're probably right. A coach, (or parent or friend)
is more likely to wait and hear the facts of a case before passing judgment than an uninvolved party would be. Too bad the Scottsboro Boys weren't athletes- they might have gotten a better shot at justice.