from what i had heard, everyone but the metros and galaxy the galaxy didn't have large amounts of room, but the metros did (~$600k) chicago and united were pretty damn far over, but the rest were much closer to the cap although i would imagine that united is now under (or very close to it)
Several articles from the Columbus Dispatch read that the Crew has a lot of room under the cap. So I don't think the Crew has any problem with cap room, expecially since aging veterans like Warzycha, Lapper, and Yeagley retired, Harkes has been let go, and rumors that Perez has been let go. Even if he does come back it will be at a reduced salary. There's a lot of youth in Columbus right now and McBride is the only max salary player the Crew has right now.
that's if certain things happen, as it is with every team but as things were at the end of the season... every team but the metros and galaxy were going to be over the cap with the contracts they had for next year
just a thought, but how can the galaxy be under. With the recent pickup of the korean captain and their "stars", i would have been confident by sayin LA has one of the biggest salaries in the league. Jones and that korean guy alone make the league max.
No, I'd show you the articles if they weren't locked out for non-subscribers. They very clearly state that the Crew was not in any cap troubles and had plenty of room for next year. That was in November 21 briefly and a November 18th article entitled: Crew still fits nicely under cap.
we had never properly replaced vanney when he left to france... i heard they just replaced him with someone jsut to fill the roster spot...anyhow we had jsut properly replaced him with BO...hmmm, didn't replace him and we still win the cup...lol, anyhow i hear BO is gonna make a bit over 200K but not the max like Jones.
you do realize that the local sports radio station hosts one sports article for each of the local teams every day... so you don't need to be a subscriber... right? www.1460thefan.com and i would have to imagine that the crew would have been over the cap, had they kept everyone... so no, i was correct in what i said... and those articles did say that people would be gone... did not the polish rifle just retire? has harkes not been mentioned as not coming back? have other players been mentioned as possibly not being with the crew next year? that is how teams are going to get under the cap for the most part... as, if every team in the league is over the cap, save two and l.a. is barely under and the metros significantly... that's not going to cover everyone else with trades and hong doesn't cost the galaxy a full salary... he costs them somewhere in the 100's, iirc it's not about how much players are paid, it's about what counts against the cap... cobi gets ~$500k a year, same with etcheverry (old deal)... neither counted anything more than the max mls salary to their team's cap and ruiz really wasn't paid that much by mls at all... under 100k, he got money from his other team as well... you figure that alexi is no longer at the max (he came back from retirement)... so that would pretty much mean that jones and cienfeugos are their two big salary people... they just got rid of luis hernandez and replaced him with ruiz (huge cap saver for the team as luis was a max guy)... besides mr. curls from d.c., who else did they add this year? goalies aren't paid much in mls, only fat tony is (soon to add howard to that department it appears)... plus the galaxy lost vanney so allow me to reiterate... every team was over the cap, save LA and the Metros United and Chicago were WAY over... united just pulled a huge salary cap saving trade with the metrostars, just about filling up the metros team cap (they should have ~100k available) i would imagine that D.C. is under or very close to being under, as they had a net loss of over $400k on their cap for next year... but without knowing how much they were over... i have no idea the Crew have had the Polish Rifle retire and it looks like Harkes will not be back... there could easily be other things going on with them as well the Revolution are working with APC to reduce his salary, plus there have been reports that others will be affected as well... and they will be losing Sommers (did he retire?) the Fire are said to be 2 max players over (or at least moving two would do keep them under)... from reports, this sounded like it could be accomplished if they don't re-sign Hristo and move Wolff or Razov... although other movement might be needed as well K.C. is reportedly going to release or trade three of their players... Klein and two others that escape me at the present time Colorado wants to have El Pibe reduce his contract or they don't want him back, i believe that the wee scot has also talked about returning to his homeland Dallas has been rumored to be shopping Rhine and there has been *some* talk of Jordan not coming back San Jose has Joe Cannon out of contract at the end of this season, no new contract has been tendered and he has previously stated he wants to try his luck across the pond... in addition, LD moved up to a max salary slot (if he wasn't there before) and Wade Barrett is seeking Jolley/Petke money, take into account that they also have Graziani, Agoos, and Ekelund... and you see they got some decent cash wrapped up in just a few people teams aren't going to get under the cap wthout moves of some kind... be it releasings, retirements, trades or contract restructuring -jim
Petke and Williams have offsetting salaries, or very close to it. Pope and Moreno were both on maximum, so that's $550K of room (275 + 275 = 550). Obviously no one outside of the league knows exactly how much we were over, but it's not like we were giving out too many raises. Rimando and Reyes were the only players that could reasonably ask for one. Ivan McKinley was promised some sort of extra salary this year, but it was never clear whether that was on paper or just a verbal deal. Everyone else will stay at what they were getting before, and I don't think we were over by much before all this started. I'd ballpark DC's cap room at $450K having thought about it more. I'd be interested to see what kind of raise Ruiz gets, and what that does to LA's cap situation. Same with Twellman in NE, who can't possibly be anywhere near a comfortable amount of room.
pope counts for $200k towards the metro cap... moreno is a max that was reported in one of the recent articles $450k sounds like what was knocked off your previous total (moreno and pope at $475, figure williams @ $100k, with petke coming in... $450k taken off)... and you guys were said to be well over (not as bad as us though) so i'd *guess* that you guys have $200-250k free, as i would figure well over is around a max salary cap still a good chunk to work with though, especially with those allocations and draft picks
In a November 17 Dispatch article titled "Crew still fits nicely under cap" Crew GM Jim Smith said, "We have space but not much space in the salary cap." This article pre-dates Warzycha's retirement and the potential waiving of Harkes and Perez and discusses how the organization needs to make certain decisions to prevent the team from going over the cap.
Where are you coming up with these numbers, and your theory about how the cap operates? Only $270K counts towards the cap, even for guys like Etch that make over the maximum salary. So we were not "pretty damn far over" the cap. United was near (slightly below) the cap throuhout last year - hence we had room to get a guy like Zambrono on the roster with the little space we had left. So, at the end of the year DC was capped out. Major salaries dropped from the roster: Pope = $270K Moreno = $270K Williams = $100K +/- Ammann = $100K +/- (Maybe as much as $120K) Petke = $120K +/- So we have saved roughly $600K from these transactions alone - probably more. Additionally, several other players were released - Alavanja, Zambrano, etc. Even with raises, DC has plenty of room to fill out the roster. Of all the teams in league, at this moment DC is in better shape with respect to the cap than anyone else.
$475k was the combined moreno and pope salaries, if you had read what i said, you would have also seen that i said pope counts for only $200k against the cap and moreno is a max salary and as i said, i got numbers from the various articles on the subject and if you are under the cap or near it NOW has nothing to do with being under the cap for next year... because remember that every team was able to play soccer this year, that meant they were under or at the cap (or got cap relief from another team) but because of a thing called raises programmed into already existing contracts, teams are over for next year (plus p-40 graduations) i'm not sure what ammann's numbers were, but i'm doubting $100k, and i would imagine richie would have been under $100k as well, but that *might* save $50k (from the ~$200k you had them at) but you are right, there would be more room than what i had mentioned... but you still aren't accounting for raises to players so janderson's reasoning was flawed, but so was mine, and so is yours
Burn GM, Andy Swift, says they are in both Cap and Roster complience for Jan 3rd. http://www.3rddegree.net/
First, it is true that 1460 has articles, not each day but when they arise about the Crew, from the Dispatch, they do not hold the archieves. So one has to have a dispatch pass to get into their archieves. You were not correct in what you said because the question was: What teams are under the salary cap as of 25 Dec 2002 07:53 PM? That's when the thread was started. The Crew have already made their moves. Warzycha retired and Harkes is gone. Pelusa is either gone or will have his salary reduced significantly. Either way the Crew have dealt with the situation. Furthermore, those moves are as much tied into age and performance as they are to salary cap. It's not like the Bonsue trade where the Crew had to get rid of a young talented player with a lot of upside because of SI and salary problems. I don't know about other teams, but I keep a close tab on the one I support, so I know I'm not wrong in this. The Crew is not over the cap and on January 3, when teams have to be cap compliant, the Crew will not waive anyone because of salary cap problems.
Pope might count for $200K against the Metros cap (though I haven't seen this written anywhere), but he counted $270 against DC's - period. This was well documented throughout the trade talks. I wouldn't be totally surprised if the league cut the Metros a deal to reduce the cap hit for Eddie, but the fact is that for several years he's been earning substantially more than the max, and counting for $270k against DC's cap. Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7500-2002Dec18.html
The three rumored to be leaving are McKeon, Burns and Vermes. KC will have plenty of room for a big signing after dropping those three players. Klein is not leaving unless a very good deal comes up.