Who's next?

Discussion in 'MLS: Expansion' started by Sport Billy, Jan 15, 2019.

  1. Red Card

    Red Card Member+

    Mar 3, 1999
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why not get rid of the all-star game and have home and home position games between the conferences? This would raise the season to 36 games.

    For example, doing this by pairs (1+2, 3+4,.., 17+18) with home team first:
    1w v 2e, 2e v 1w followed by 1e v 1w, 2w v 2e. So on for each pair of positions.

    This way each team plays 2 comparable level teams from the other conference during the regular season.
     
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  2. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
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  3. JmThms

    JmThms Member

    Jul 6, 2015
    "Major League Soccer commissioner Don Garber has not completely closed the door on league expansion, but he says MLS will not be adding any new teams for the foreseeable future."

    "Garber has indicated that MLS could eventually expand past 30 teams. But he reaffirmed this will not happen in the near future due to the need to onboard the new expansion teams correctly and then re-examine MLS and and the wider soccer landscape in North America."

    "We’ve been very strategic on how we’ve expanded the league. Right now we have six new teams coming into the league between now and 2022, which is more teams in any four-year period than we’ve ever had. So the idea that we go past that now is inconceivable."

    "Garber said that cities interested in joining MLS should not completely give up hope, though. “Lastly, Las Vegas, San Diego, Detroit, Phoenix are all actively interested in Major League Soccer. Now, what do you do with that? We’re going to continue to talk to them as we’ve done for many many years to keep their interest in the game growing. Maybe that is in another league, maybe it’s just waiting for a time when maybe MLS expands again,” Garber said."

    Las Vegas, Phoenix and San Diego already have USL Championship teams. There is no where else to go but MLS. Vegas may be out of luck.

    https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/garber-mls-expansion-not-over-but-firmly-on-hold/
     
  4. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The lady doth protest too much.
     
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  5. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we do expand again...

    First round...
    Southwest:
    31. Las Vegas Lights
    32. Phoenix Rising
    Contenders: San Diego Loyal, New Mexico United, El Paso Locomotive, San Antonio, Oklahoma City*

    2nd Round...
    Midwest/Northeast:
    33. Indy Eleven
    34. Detroit
    Contenders: Milwaukee, Cleveland, Louisville City, Oklahoma City*, Pittsburgh, Rochester, Baltimore

    3rd Round,
    35-36, or 35-40
    Best of who’s left. Plus, add in return to Southeast: New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Raleigh, Memphis, Birmingham
    And Southwest: San Francisco, Riverside

    Prediction:
    31. Las Vegas Lights ~ 2025/2027
    32. Phoenix Rising ~ 2025/2027
    33. Indy Eleven ~ 2026/2028
    34. Detroit ~ 2026/2028
    35. San Diego ~ 2030/2032
    36. Louisville ~ 2030/2032
    37. Oklahoma City ~ 2032/2034
    38. Birmingham ~ 2032/2034
    39. New Mexico ~ 2033/2035
    40. San Antonio ~ 2033/2035
     
  6. Cltfcfantv

    Cltfcfantv Member

    Spurs
    England
    Oct 11, 2020
    I think Raleigh would be able to support a Team. It just depends on how the MLS feels about NC. I guess that will also be dependent on the support CharlotteFC gets too.
     
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  7. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    New Mexico ?? I don’t see that happening ever
     
  8. hipityhop

    hipityhop Member

    New Mexico United
    United States
    Jan 10, 1999
    Mission TX
    Club:
    SønderjyskE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do...
     
  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy

    The Chiles had a cool logo!

    [​IMG]
     
  10. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Based on what ? It’s not a big market
     
  11. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    Albuquerque is half a million
    The state only has 2 Mil

    Size-wise that's like saying all of Missouri is the fan base for STL
     
  12. JmThms

    JmThms Member

    Jul 6, 2015
    There's an article today in the Las Vegas Journal-Review about the Las Vegas Lights FC expansion talks between the city and an investment group. Unfortunately its behind a paywall. Anyone get a chance to read it?
     
  13. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    now with NASH-MIA-CHAR going East and
    AUST-SAC_STL going west, is it still odds on that to get to 32, that we will still see 1 more in the west and 1 in the east? Would MLS do otherwise?
    IF we stay at 2 conferences of 16 each (and I hope we do), then E/W balance I think would still matter. IF we go to some unfortunate 3 /4 division set up, then it would seem you would want to pick the last 2 to fit your holes in a 3 or 4 division set up to make these division somewhat geographical/rival based.
    So does the league pick the best candidate cities first and figure the league structure later or does it think about where it needs team(s) to cover the map better, then in my opinion why Charlotte came in to fill a big gap between ATL and DC and why MINN was added to cover the gap in the upper midwest.
     
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  14. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Minnesota weren't added to fill a geographical gap.

    Minnesota were able to average 30k+ in back to back seasons in the original NASL and had a well run club with a healthy fanbase in the newer version.
     
  15. SteveUSSF_ref8

    SteveUSSF_ref8 Member+

    United States
    Oct 25, 2010
    Sun City, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now that is appears that Sacramento has lost it's MLS expansion franchise, it opens expansion up for the 30th franchise. Could be a fight between to finish between Phoenix, Las Vegas or some else who comes out. With the commissioner going on record that he doesn't see expansion 30. Could be the last chance.
     
  16. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely devastated myself. But one of the desert cities needs to jump and separate themselves from the other , could be either one. I’d guess Vegas because of sexy new sports market
     
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  17. SteveUSSF_ref8

    SteveUSSF_ref8 Member+

    United States
    Oct 25, 2010
    Sun City, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am betting on Phoenix. The intriguing aspect about Phoenix is they have local ownership, a Chinese Billionaire and Drogba. They also are ready to put a shove in the ground for a new stadium near Scottsdale.

    There is also the aspect that Vegas maybe over expanded into pro sports with the NFL, NHL, and the WNBA. Not the mention the casinos. Phoenix has a lot of disposable income.
     
  18. Otis Campbell

    Otis Campbell Member

    Jan 17, 2014
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    The new site is in Chandler not Scottsdale. I think it is a bigger pop up stadium they currently use with much better parking and more room.
     
  19. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there too for expansion on it? I think I read capacity is only 10k right now somewhere
     
  20. SteveUSSF_ref8

    SteveUSSF_ref8 Member+

    United States
    Oct 25, 2010
    Sun City, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But the MLS stadium is not popup and has a capacity of more than 22,000. Is that also on the same site?
     
  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is this going to replace the one in Tempe that's detailed on Wikipedia?
     
  22. SteveUSSF_ref8

    SteveUSSF_ref8 Member+

    United States
    Oct 25, 2010
    Sun City, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since MLS has a new media contract coming after the 2022 season, this opens the opportunity to grant the 30th club to a larger market. With this in mind the largest market available that has made a bid is Phoenix, also helps their bid. Here are the TV market sizes of the know viable expansion sites:

    Detroit - #11
    Phoenix - #12
    Tampa Bay - #13
    Sacramento - #20
    Indianapolis - #25
    San Diego - #28
    Las Vegas - #42

    With this in mind along with the ownership group, stadium plan and market size gives Phoenix an advantage. It has been said the the Phoenix Rising FC group has been quietly courting the MLS behind the scene. There maybe more to this bid than the public knows.
     
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well they put in a bid in the last round.

    Re my previous question:

    Phoenix Rising FC has broken ground on a new stadium, which is being built next to Wild Horse Pass Casino near Chandler and will hold around 10,000 fans upon completion.
     
  24. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Doesn’t MLS now prefer stadiums (stadia?) that are not out in the middle of nowhere like the FC Dallas Stadium in Friscoe. The idea of being within or near an existing commercial district seemed to loom large in the last several franchise awards.
     
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  25. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, that is a heavy weighing portion of criteria. And only a ten thousand seater? What do seat addition prospects look like?

    granted, they bent the hell out of that rule for Austin. Literally at the very northern edge of town
     
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