Who will promote?

Discussion in 'Germany' started by olafgb, Jan 13, 2003.

  1. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Half of the season played also in 2.Bundesliga, so we got a serious picture of who'll be the ones to promote. What are your three teams?

    1 Cologne, 39 pts. Only team still undefeated in pro soccer, something that'll most likely change in the cup quarter final in Munich at the latest. What makes them the favourite besides a 9 pt gap of course, is that they are not playing a really superb soccer, but at the end they are winning their games, also many close ones - bit of Bayern style in 2.Bundesliga ;).

    2 Frankfurt, 33 pts. A little surprise because originally the teams of the last years, which failed to reach the big aim, were better. The big problem for them: key player and offence organiser Rolf-Christel Guie-Mien used his buyout option and left, and this of all teams in the world to...

    3 Freiburg, 33 pts. Little sensation that Guie-Mien now is here and not in Bundesliga. But this once again also shows that Freiburg is still very much underestimated in German soccer. Already when relegating they had a mid-size Bundesliga budget and now they kept almost the whole roster. Regarding the finances you can seriously call them Bayern Munich of 2.Bundesliga, although still many think that they are the cute little underdog.

    4 Mainz, 30 pts. Not a lot of last year's attractive soccer remained, in which Mainz was the first who did not promote although having more than 58 pts (64). They seemed to struggle a lot and always lost the games when they had the opportunity to get closer. At the end they improved and now are in a good position to attack. Strength and weakness is top striker Andrej Voronin, who is involved in almost every goal. If Mainz doesn't promote, then he'll leave the club as free transfer.

    5 Aachen, 29 pts. Almost the biggest surprise this year. One of the best crowds in German soccer carried them into a superb position. Long time it looked better, but when Coach Berger had to face a surgery because of cancer, the team lost too many points under the assistant coach. Berger now is back on the bench and we'll see if they can get closer.

    6 Trier, 27 pts. Best promoted team from Regionalliga. As many promoted teams they mainly live by high energy and lots of will. It can be doubted though that they will have a serious influence in the promotion race.

    7 Duisburg, 27 pts. From relegation to promotion candidate within weeks. Almost loss after loss under Littbarski, who almost yelled that he wants to be fired, but the officials left time with that decision. Bernard Dietz, an old veteran who refuses to coach in pro soccer for ideological reasons, was hired as interims coach - and they won five straight games. Now with Norbert Meier an unknown Coach takes over and we'll see how he does on the bench.

    8 Oberhausen, 26 pts. King Aleks (Ristic) on a defensive success trip with Oberhausen. Just two teams scored less goals, but they collect many points despite of that. Interesting that more than half of the goals were scored by players who came in during the game, which led Ristic to the conclusion "I'm a bad coach, I'm always dressing the wrong players".

    9 Fürth, 25 pts. The team is underperforming so far and should be able to improve, but questionable whether they can compensate such a big gap.
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    My secure picks are Cologne and Freiburg. Everything else is difficult. I've got to admit that 2.Bundesliga is quite uninteresting this year as there are only a few love/hate teams in there. I think that Frankfurt will drop, but who'll replace them? Mainz is definitely less convincing than last year, but the situation is promising. Regarding the attractivity of the game, I'd love to see Fürth getting involved - something I wouldn't count out too early, but it's difficult of course. And I can't seriously imagine the other four to make it, although over the last years there often were some who weren't on the bill. So, my choice is Mainz.
     
  2. wolfsburgh

    wolfsburgh Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Pittsburgh, PA
    I agree with Olaf that the no-brainers are Cologne and Freiburg, based upon pedigree and performance to date. Since I see zero 2.Bund. games in any given year, it's hard to evaluate the other teams, so I'm going to stick with frontrunner Frankfurt, although my darkhorse is Duisburg.
     
  3. Tegtmeier

    Tegtmeier New Member

    Dec 22, 2002
    Cologne and Freiburg should make it. Which team will be the third is a very difficult question, i also think that Frankfurt will start to struggle - i hope it won't be one of those boring teams like Mainz or Aachen. Trier or Fürth, no one wants to see those teams in BL.
     
  4. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    I kind of agree, but you leave out Oberhausen and Duisburg - not exactly what I call exciting. Then rather some new ones like Mainz (+: sympathetic and good coach, improving stadium), Aachen (+: old traditional team, great fans) or Fürth (+: modern stadium, most attractive soccer of the candidates, and most important: best jersey in 2.Bundesliga ;))
     
  5. BhoysFC1995

    BhoysFC1995 New Member

    Nov 30, 1999
    NYC
    got a photo?

    btw, who's that '2000' team under you name, listed as fav teams?
     
  6. Syncope

    Syncope New Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Occasionally, Freiburg--the Breisgauer-Brasilianer--play a perfect short-pass game. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind seeing Frankfurt being relegated.
     
  7. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
  8. wolfsburgh

    wolfsburgh Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Fuerth: best jersey in 2.BL?

    It looks just like Celtic's jersey (white and green hoops). Is Olaf a closet Celtic fan (or is this also the shirt of his beloved Guetersloh)?

    My favorite BL jersey was the Hertha white/navy hoops shirt 3 or 4 years ago (Adidas; shirt sponsor was Die Continentale).
     
  9. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    Gütersloh's is uglier than Fürth's. Here's a pic (the white version is better)
    http://www.fcg2000.de/images/jpg/spieltage/10.spieltag/Nach-2-3.jpg

    IMO Hertha is still today having the best jersey of Bundesliga: http://www.interneters.de/hertha/trikot.htm
     
  10. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Who will promote ?

    If we get 51 points in the second half of the season: Eintracht Braunschweig.

    The two other promoted teams will be Köln and Freiburg BTW.
     
  11. Eisern Union

    Eisern Union New Member

    Jul 4, 2002
    Berlin
    We all know that Union is going up.

    Seriously. I have to agree with olaf. Köln and Freiburg are far ahead of the rest (talent wise), and Mainz is a solid team with good coaching that just missed promotion last season (remember who they lost to on the last day of the season?)
     
  12. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    IIRC it was the ref ;) Don't remember 100%, but the pk leading to the 1-0 for Union was quite a bad joke for them I think. No excuse for losing though.
     
  13. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who was relegated? I have relatives on the American base in Kaiserslautern, so I'm hoping it's not them...

    Prof
     
  14. olafgb

    olafgb New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    Germany
    We'll see that in summer I guess.
     
  15. Benedict XVI

    Benedict XVI Member

    Nov 22, 1999
    Ciudad del Encanto
    Club:
    Lisburn Distillery FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Köln, I told you all, now is the time to jump on the bandwagon, we äre going to win the 2.Liga this year and the 1.Liga next year.
     
  16. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    FC St. Pauli!!!!


    Oh, you don't mean promoted downward to the 3rd division... :(
     

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