They won the xG battle by a lot . . . A lot of the criticism he is getting reminds me of with Gregg for the USMNT
Celtic fanbase and media is just as intense as Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Bayern Munich, minus the budget, prestige, and modern continental success. Nancy went to the Liga MX of Europe, a bunch of pressure from people that think they are the best in the world, when in reality they are far far from it. I said this was a bad move from the start, and I'm dying on that hill.
It’s not even that. It’s Nancy doing his whole philosopher thing. Sometimes it hits hard, like saying, “impossible is an opinion”, after winning a championship. But other times he simple needs to keep it to himself, like when he loses his first match coaching a club who rarely loses league matches and is currently going through a ton of turmoil.
Celtic fans are not used to losing league matches. They’ve already racked up 3 league losses in 15 matches this season. They typically only lose 3 matches in an entire season. The most losses they have in an entire season for the past decade is 5. Before this season, they lost a total of 33 league games over a 10 year period, and most of those losses were once the title was also wrapped up. So yea, when you manage a club like that, you better shut up and take the L when you happen to suffer one.
And Im not sure but I believe Celtic won 6 straight before today. Its tough for the fans to swallow when a new guy comes in and changes stuff that has been working just fine to suit his own personal.style and then gives some poofty new age explanation for it.
I don’t recall Nancy going into philosopher mode until after he’d settled in a bit. I mean, we joked about him saying exactly this. Almost to the word. I mean, I love the guy, but sometimes winning is the most importantly thing. Implying you don’t lose sleep over losing matches only works when you’re consistently winning.
It's funny because everyone was saying it's great and it doesn't matter that it's Scotland because it's Europe and a stepping stone blah blah blah, and then before the dude even officially signed it seemed like everyone already turned and said it wouldn't work haha. Some weird whiplash going on there.
I know everyone wants to win an argument on the internet, but after 1 game people are claiming "victory"?
Sorry I wasn't clear. I see a lot of people, Celtic fans to be precise, that are already slapping themselves on the back for calling out a nobody appointment failing after 1 game. The optics of the tactic board is not good, but aside from that, you can't judge a manager after 1 game. If I remember correctly we lost 4-1 after his first game for us. My guess is he needs a couple of weeks on the training ground and a transfer window. Then perhaps judge him
They think they are Real Madrid, so comparing their mentality and expectations to us isn't really accurate.
Celtic is to Scottish football what Real Madrid is to Spanish football. It doesn't matter if Real Madrid is far more skilled than Celtic, the local expectations are still just about the same. Celtic are essentially a mid-table La Liga team playing in the USLC. The logical expectation every game domestically is a win. You can't use the "it's all about the journey, the win doesn't matter" mantra that you can in a parody driven league like MLS where wins are far from guaranteed each week. Nancy needs to win some games first before turning into Confucius.
I am dying to know who is on the shortlist because it will be really informative as to how the club views the role. We certainly are near the top in the world around stadium, practice facilities and quality of life. Really interesting to see how this goes.
Which was what I meant. Their mentality and expectations, rightly or wrongly, are for perfection and to look good doing it. He needs to win right away, or he'll be out of a job very quickly, which is why I thought he should've gone to France. Far different expectations.
Has Celtic not watched Ted Lasso? Everyone knows he's going to lose the first few games until he has a heart to heart moment with a few key players and win over a small contingent of core supporters. Does Nancy play darts? Is Celtic owned by a rich, recently divorced, cougar?
Think celtic in a typical year/scenario with preseason time would be Nancy's ideal situation. He would have no risk of dropping into the bottom half of the table and would have time to implement the system (assuming they arent in an early UCL playoff) with players from the technical Korean and Japanese leagues. They are currently far from that situation, but he has the board's backing until they get sacked or he is close to getting them sacked. A low to mid table french team would not give him the same grace as Celtic would in a typical year, but see above. Maybe the French would like his style more than the scots, but i am stereotyping. Edit: maybe grace isnt the right word. There are different pressures from different people. It is sort of a pick your poison. Personally think the celtic board feeling pressure that they arent in first place will hold out longer than the Remmes board would feeling relegation pressure. The fan pressure is much different.
That is good. I, unfortunately, often type "busty" when I mean "busy." Which is one reason why I always re-read and edit my emails before hitting send.