Who will be a sweet surprise this term for Bayern?

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  1. BMGuy

    BMGuy Member

    Bayern Munich
    Sep 6, 2004
    vietnam
    next time when someone makes a poll, please remove karimi from the list (at least till when half season's passed). I'm fed up with all the crap subjective votes from Irainian kids. Please only make those votes for whom you think deserve it, not because he's from your country.
     
  2. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    That's not the spirit. :(
    Who cares??? I didn't even vote
    Its a Big Soccer poll!!!!!!!!!!!

    So they favor Karimi...So what? We still get posters who favor Guerrero and Pizarro because they are from Peru. Let them have their say. I am not going to get in the habit of barring somebody, because of where they are from.
     
  3. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And those bloody four Canadians who voted for Hargreaves....
     
  4. Txtriathlete

    Txtriathlete Member

    Aug 6, 2004
    The American Empire
    I have to agree with you. Ze did pretty well in the Confed Cup yet he does only okay for Bayern.
     
  5. bayern_man

    bayern_man Member

    Dec 18, 2004
    Scotland
    Ze was poor in the Confederations Cup,he usually just walked about on the left side of midfield and made some unimportant and uninspired short passes,although there were times when he made forward runs and good passes. I think he has improved greatly for Bayern over the last year,especially some of his performances later in the season,hence Bayern wanting him to extend his contract,im glad he stayed.
     
  6. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think its quite the opposite, he does way better on club level than with the NT.

    He was superb with Leverkusen and has been pretty consistent with Bayern, but hasn't played too much for Brazil.
     
  7. Txtriathlete

    Txtriathlete Member

    Aug 6, 2004
    The American Empire
    Maybe its just me then. When I saw him play for Brazil, I was thinking why he couldnt play more like that when playing for Bayern...
     
  8. DemmahoM

    DemmahoM Member

    Apr 1, 2005
    New Haven CT
    Club:
    --other--
    Ze is more of a central midfielder for Brazil while at Bayern he is a winger.
     
  9. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think whether Ballack is there or not, Sebastian Deisler makes a huge step toward finally fulfilling his potential this season.
     
  10. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    yep... time to step up for him... I actually have not minded that he has taken his time to get back into form/health. However, my expectations have definitley been raised for him.
     
  11. The_Special_One

    The_Special_One New Member

    May 17, 2005
    london
    Nah, i have to disagree with you guys there. I like desiler, quality player, but just dont think Bayern is good for him. He needs to go to a slightly smaller club to fulfill his true potential.

    Very talented player though.
     
  12. NUFCBayern

    NUFCBayern Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2004
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I disagree. This may have been true two years ago (with his psychological problems), but I think he has finally adjusted.
     
  13. NUFCBayern

    NUFCBayern Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2004
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I voted for Karimi. I'm American.
     
  14. BMike86

    BMike86 Member

    Jun 26, 2005
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is true for just about any player playing for a major club in Europe. Some go through slumps, some their game never transfers over into the big time success, etc. Deisler should be fine, but if I remember correctly Deisler a while ago was Germany's "next big thing" so if he continues to improve I think he will be alright and could be the leader of Germany in the future. He just needs to stay healthy and continue to improve. :D
     
  15. peruytu

    peruytu Member

    Jan 19, 2003
    New York
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Guerrero will be the sweetest surprise for the second year in a row.

    Mark my words...
     
  16. footyfan1

    footyfan1 BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 20, 2003
    San Antonio, Texas
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Deisler will never be a "leader". A "leading player", yes, but not a "leader". It's just not in his nature.

    I think fatherhood will help Deisler as it did with Ballack. Take a look. You can almost pinpoint the beginning of Ballack's rise to the birth of his son Louis.
     
  17. BMike86

    BMike86 Member

    Jun 26, 2005
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Should we just skip Deilser and say Schweinsteiger possibly....That is the only person that I can really see being the next Bayern leader.
     
  18. scorpio81

    scorpio81 Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    London
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

    actually i think the next bayern leader will be lucio... (should ballack leave) they guy is absolutely lion-hearted!!!
     
  19. BMike86

    BMike86 Member

    Jun 26, 2005
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only reason I picked Schweinsteiger over Lucio is because Lucio isn't German even though he has played in Germany long enough and knows the language. On the field he is world class, intense defensemen, fearless leader, I understand how good he is. I just think that because he isn't German and if Ballack stays around long enough, the longer Ballack is here the more time and experience Schweinsteiger has to become a good leader and an even better footballer :D
     
  20. SSfan

    SSfan New Member

    Jan 6, 2005
    SEE BOYS, BECAUSE OF KARIMI IRANIAN SOCCER SITES ARE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO BAYERN
    SO BE HAPPY :D


    July 14th, 2005
    ISP Exclusive: FC Bayern analysis
    Iran Sports Press - Bayern Munich is one of the biggest and greatest clubs in today's football. A few days ago the club reached 100 000 members.
    Mahbod Z & Naveed Moula

    It is an honour or better to say a dream for many footballers to play for the Bavarian giant. Any new player who will have his dream fulfilled with a contract will not have an easy task ahead of himself to get into the starting line-up. FC Bayern have had a lot of success during the years in European football, just have a look at his these titles which the club has won.

    1) German Bundesliga: 19 times since 1932
    2) German Cup: 12 times since 1957
    3) European Champions League : 1974,1975,1976, 2001
    4) UEFA Cup: 1996
    5) International World Club champions: 1976, 2001

    FC Bayern has the world's most competitive and strongest midfield. Although Juventus has midfielders like Nedved, Emerson, Camoranesi and maybe also Patrick Viera still they come nowhere the strength in depth of the Bayern midfield. Real Madrid has midfielders like Zidane, Beckham, Gravesen, Figo and Guti while Chelsea can be proud to have Lampard, Cole, Duff, Robben and Makelele in their midfield. AC Milan also have a midfield full of stars (Gattuso, Kaka, Pirlo, Seedorf, Serginho, Rui Costa) however none of these teams can reach the competitive midfield of FC Bayern. ISP's Mahbod Z and Naveed Moula have taken a look at the world's strongest midfield:

    Defensive midfield:

    Martin Demichelis

    Date of birth: 20 December 1980
    Bundesliga games: 37
    Website: No official

    Demichelis is the first Argentine to ever play for FC Bayern and to win a German Bundesliga title. Recently he was also called up to the national team for the first time as he joined the others for the Confederations Cup. Demechlis told the media that he is dying to play for Argentina, even if only for a few minutes but it wasn't to happen as he followed all the matches from the bench. Before Bayern snapped him up Demichelis won two league titles with River Plate. Demechelis last season mostly played as defensive midfielder for Bayern although he is as strong in central defence. With the new signing of central defender Valérien Ismael Demichelis is likely to appear in defensive midfield for another season.

    Nationality: Argentinean
    International caps: 0

    Owen Hargreaves

    Date of birth: January 20 1981
    Bundesliga games: 120
    Website: http://www.owenhargreaves.de/

    Hargreaves is born in 1981 in Calgary, Canada. A gifted midfielder and an accomplished passer with a good eye for goal scoring opportunities. Owen is the perfect role model for any others talents outside Europe who want to follow professional career's. Part of Bayern's Organization since 1997 because of his move to Germany at the age of 15. Due to his heritage Owen was eligible to play for England, Canada or the Welsh national team. He though chose to play for his father native land, England. He quickly graduated from England Under 21 to the senior team in 2001, making his debut in a friendly against Holland. Initially appearing on the left wing, Hargreaves can play all over midfield but also as right back. Though it's most likely that Hargreaves will be a substitute for Demichelis and play whenever he's not playing and vice versa. However if Demichelis will be used in central midfield Hargreaves can look forward to more time on the pitch and less on the bench.

    Career record and titles won:
    Nationality: English
    International caps: 26
    International goals: 0
    Euro participations: 2004
    World Cup participations: 2002
    German Bundesliga : 2001, 2003, 2005
    German Cups: 2003, 2005
    Champions League: 2001
    Continental Cup: 2001

    Jens Jeremies

    Date of birth: March 5 1974
    Bundesliga games: 238
    Website: No official

    The 31 year old combative defensive midfielder was one of the most regular German national team players during the years. He is an industrious midfielder who can read the game very well and can quickly turn defence to attack. Jeremies a former German international started his professional football with Dynamo Dresden and later joined 1860 Munich in the Bundesliga. Victim of injury "Jerry" retired from international competitions to focus more on his club. In the end of last season he was linked to several clubs but decided to stay in Bayern Munich until the end of his contract by next year. Jeremies will probably be the defensive midfielder that will get the least amount of playing time.

    Career record and titles won:
    Nationality: German
    International Caps: 55
    International goals: 1
    Euro participations: 2000, 2004
    World cup participations: 1998, 2002
    German Bundesliga: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2005
    German cups: 2000, 2003, 2005
    Champions League: 2001
    Continental Cup: 2001

    Left and right midfield:

    Ze Roberto



    Date of birth: July 6 1974
    Bundesliga games: 196
    Website: No official

    Left footed Ze Roberto is well known for his typical Brazilian gifted ability, dribbling. The dynamic Brazilian midfielder is born 1974 in Ipiranga in Brazil. One of the German Bundesliga's top providers, can play in both left wing and defensive midfield just as he did for Brazil in the Confederations Cup. After a disappointing season in Real Madrid, Ze Roberto returned home to join giant Flamengo in 1998 and later the same season he signed with Bayern Leverkusen. With Leverkusen he reached the final of CL in 01/02 before he joined the Bavarian side. He played in the World Cup 98 but was overlooked by coach Scolari for the 2002 World Cup.

    Career record and titles won:
    Nationality: Brazilian
    International caps : 73
    International goals: 5
    Copa America : 1997, 1999
    German Bundesliga: 2003, 2005
    German Cup: 2003, 2005
    La Liga : 1997
    Spanish Cup: 1997
    Champions League: 2001
    Continental Cup: 2001

    Sebastian Deisler

    Date of birth: January 5 1980
    Bundesliga games: 115
    Website: No official

    Deisler has been considered as one of Germany's brightest light and promising young star. Talented Sebastian is born in 1980 in Lorrach in Germany. He started his professional Bundesliga carrier with Borussia Monchengladbach in 1995 and joined Hertha Berlin in 99/00 season to help his side reach the second round of the Champions League. Deisler is an accurate passer and excellent crosser with his right foot. He was victim of depression and a serious knee injury, which ruled him out of World cup 2002, Euro 2004 and a starting place in Bayern’s line up. With a great performance in Confederations Cup recently, Deisler now seems ready to become an important player for Germany in home World Cup and also for Bayern this coming season.

    Career Record and titles won:
    Nationality: German
    International caps: 28
    International goals: 3
    Euro participations: 2000
    German Bundesliga: 2003, 2005
    German Cups: 2003, 2005

    Bastian Schweinsteiger

    Date of birth: August 1 1984
    Bundesliga games: 66
    Website: http://www.bastian-schweinsteiger.de/

    Bastian is one of the great German players of the new young generation. Schweinsteiger is born in 1984 in Kolbermoor. He is a tireless worker and attacking young star who creates space and intelligently distributes the ball. Schweinsteiger joined FC Bayern München as a junior and went on to rise through the club's youth sides. Having won the German youth championship in July 2002, Schweinsteiger quickly earned a place in the reserves, producing a string of solid displays in the third division to attract the attention of the senior coaching staff. After just two training sessions with the first team, coach Ottmar Hitzfeld gave Schweinsteiger his debut as a late substitute in a UEFA Champions League game against RC Lens in November 2002, and the youngster made an immediate impact. He is considered as a key player by both Bayern coach, Felix Magath and German national team coach, Jurgen Klinsmann.

    Career record and titles won:
    Nationality: German
    International caps: 18
    International goals: 4
    Youth caps: 6 for U-21, 18 for U-19, 1 for U-17
    Euro participations: 2004
    German Bundesliga: 2003, 2005
    German Cup: 2003, 2005

    Hasan Salihamidzic

    Date of birth: January 1 1977
    Bundesliga games: 256
    Website: No official

    The hard working midfielder joined Bayern from Hamburg. The 28 year old Bosnian star has been a regular player since 1998 and could figure himself in both Hitzfeld and Magath's plans.A blend of immaculate defensive and offensive abilities have made Salihamidzic, an integral figure for both club and country.

    Nick named "Brazzo" by his fans always give his 100% in every game and is well respected by his team mates because of his positive attitude. After two serious injuries in 2002 and 2003, he had great come back and could appear in 33 Bundesliga games last season. Salihamidzic played a lot of games in the back four last season, and as the competition in midfield is fierce Magath may very well move down Hasan to defense (right/left) again.

    Career record and titles won:
    Nationality: Bosnian
    International caps: 46
    International goals: 19
    German Bundesliga: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2005
    German Cups: 2000, 2003, 2005
    Champions League: 2001
    Intercontinental Cup: 2001

    Central and offensive midfield:

    Mehmet Scholl

    Date of Birth: October 16 1970
    Bundesliga games: 360
    Website: No official

    Veteran midfielder Scholl is the longest serving player of his club and will this year play his 14th season for Bayern having already played 421 competitive matches and scored 111 goals. Scholl was born in Karlsruhe, son of Hella and Ergin Yüksel, a German mother and a Turkish immigrant father. At the age of five, his father left the family and returned to Turkey. Later his mother married Hermann Scholl and Mehmet acquired his stepfather's last name.

    Scholl is one of the German Bundesliga's most successful players, winning the championship a record seven times (only Klaus Augenthaler, Lothar Matthäus and Alexander Zickler have won as many Bundesliga titles).

    Former German player of the year and international has played a key role for his side during the years and has been one of the best midfielders not only for his club but also for Germany. Scholl was indeed the victim of several injuries during his career, which gave him the supporting role later in his club and forced him to retire from the German national team before World Cup 2002. That meant Scholl never had the chance to take part in any World Cup.

    Career Record and titles won:
    Nationality: German
    International caps: 36
    International goals: 8
    Euro participations: 2000
    German Bundesliga : 1994,1997,1999,2000,2001, 2003, 2005
    German Cups: 1998,2000,2003,2005
    Champions League: 2001
    Intercontinental Cup: 2001
    UEFA cup: 1996

    Michael Ballack:

    Date of Birth: September 26 1976
    Bundesliga games: 206
    Website: http://www.michael-ballack.com

    Probably the best German player and one of the best midfielders in the world, born in 1976 in Gorlitz in Germany. He started his professional football career in bundesliga with FC Kaiserslautern and joined Bayern Munich in 02/03 season from Bayern Leverkusen. He was beside Ze Reboerto the main reason why Leverkusen reached the final of CL in 01/02 season. Ballack can play as offensive as well as central midfielder and has the ability to play with both feet.
    Ballack always scores many goals and is one of the key players for the coach Felix Magath. Ace midfielder was criticized by German media for being inconsistent in the German national team but still is considered by Germany's national team coach Jurgen Klinsmann as his team’s leader and capitan. His great performance in the World Cup was enough to lead his country to the final and after receiving his second yellow card in the tournament against South Korea, he missed the final against Brazil.


    Career record and titles won:
    Nationality: German
    International caps : 56
    International goals: 27
    Euro participations : 2000, 2004
    World Cup participation: 2002
    German Bundesliga: 1998, 2003, 2005
    German Cups: 2003, 2005
    Champions League: 2001
    Intercontinental Cup: 2001
    UEFA Cup: 1996

    Ali Karimi

    Date of Birth: November 8 1978
    Bundesliga games: 2005/06 is his debut season
    Website: http://www.alikarimi8.com

    Ali Karimi, "Asian Maradona" is the newest addition to the FC Bayern midfield. The reigning Asian player of the year was also the best player during last years Asian Cup with five goals and two assists but was robbed the MVP title by the AFC technical comitee. Karimi will be the third Iranian to play for the Bavarians in just a few seasons. He will be heavily pressured to perform otherwise his spell at Bayern will probably end after only one season having in mind the new rules limiting the number of non EU players to only 3 for next season. Ali Karimi won both the league and the Presidents Cup with Al Ahli as well as he has won the goalscoring boot and been chosen as the best player and best foreigner of the UAE League. Before Karimi moved to UAE he won both the league and the Cup title with Perspolis in Iran. Ali Karimi will be used in central/offensive midfield but can also be used as a striker.


    To read the full story of Ali Karimi click here


    Nationality: Iranian
    International caps : 86
    International goals: 31

    Summary

    Anything can happen, anything is possible, at least on the Bayern midfield. If we don't include rising star Andreas Ottl ten players are fighting for four places on the Bayern midfield. If we give one place to Michael Ballack, nine players remains for three places. If we give another place to Demichelis/Hargreaves seven players remain for tiny two places. The german magazine Kicker in an article this week suggested what we just went through, it remains to be seen how Magath will field his team but one thing is certain, Magath has many stars to choose from...
     
  21. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Thats a pretty good article, I can't believe someone actually admitted the greatness of Bayern's midfield.....what if Karimi hadn't joined? ;)
     
  22. Caliguy

    Caliguy New Member

    Apr 27, 2005
    In your pc
    Try reading the thread title, and then read it again a few more times I hope it all starts to make sense to you. Don’t get me wrong we understand the pain you boys of the desert have been going true recently, first it was Hashemian and just as you started to plan the celebrations for his departure BM signs another Persian, Karimi, I don’t know what to tell you "boys" to make you feel better in this agonizingly painful time in your life, so I’ll just say good luck with all that.
     
  23. scorpio81

    scorpio81 Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    London
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    agreed, sirmanc - very very good article - im quite impressed...

    especially cos they nailed down the players' attributes and qualities to a T in addition to providing just the stats...
     
  24. SSfan

    SSfan New Member

    Jan 6, 2005
    I'm glad you guys enjoyed it!!!
    It goes to show that we Iranians are loyal people and will put the time and effort to support the teams that take chances on our boys!!! ;)
     
  25.   

       New Member

    May 13, 2004
    Saint Tropez

    Why is it that anyone that remarks something slightly negative to your prodigical son Karimi, the person must be an Arab or a Jew?
     

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