Discussion in 'GROUP A: South Africa, Mexico, Uruguay France' started by Naui_Ocelotl, Dec 4, 2009.
Whoever wins this is taking 1st place. Mexicoooo
I've been doing the math and well, anything can still happen.
South Africa can still advance.
1st or 2nd can be anyone. The whole entire group can literally end up with 4 points at the end.
If Uruguay loses to Mexico and France beats Mexico and South Africa beats France, we have a 4 way point tie. lol
WCRENE...........this was hilarious!!!!!!!!! About time we started having some fun in this blog......I must give props to URUNADA for a convincing win..I cant believe how bad SA played.
The interesting this is that France has been having trouble defeating African sides in the last two years, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that South Africa wins that match.
Also, Mexico has defeated Uruguay consistently of late. So they winning that match is also possible. And France has the closed-style, partly physical, that gives problems to Mexico --think the USA.
So it is almost expected, by me, that all teams will end with 4. Goal diff will be vital. In that sense, South Africa is done: having three against today was the end for them, IMO. The other matches are likely to be 1-0 affairs. 2-0 at most.
African or not, S. Africa is not as good as any of the African sides that France lost to. That said, their form against Mexico will be telling. If they have another off game, then perhaps South Africa can make a run of it, but Perriera has to let go of the reins on this one. They can't worry about giving up goals because they need to score. At least go out and give the fans some goals to cheer about. Show them that this actually means something. I'm sure the S. African fans would have been happier if they'd lost 1-3 or 2-4.
The citizens of Argentina are futbol fanatics, I know this because I spent a year there.
Mexico is another country where futbol is huge, i'm almost certain not as much as Argentina, but it's up there. I've never been to Mexico, but i've been to Texas, and L.A lol, although that may not be Mexico I can see futbol to them is something they love too.
Question is... Why are there more Mexican haters then Argentine haters?
It's off topic, i know; but i'm sensing a lot of hatred already, panic mode one might think?
Another thing! I'm almost certain the number of idiots that live in Argentina are equivalent to idiots that live in Mexico; but do the Argentines lock up thier idiots and ban them from the internet (bigsoccer)? and the Mexicans don't?
I know everyone's going to start screaming TROLL, and come up with a witty insult; but is this really not obvious to anyone else?
Good luck tomorrow, honestly if I were Mexican I would want nothing more than a victory and my mind would be closed to anything or anyone that said different.
oh yes it is, unless there's another bafanabafana hidden somewhere they're going to unveil special for that match. the ones i've seen are horrible, not a patch on nigeria or even togo, the only african sides we've played since 2005.
think the USA but with speed and technique. france is very athletic but if our matches are always fermés it's the opposition that decides that. i don't think mexico is capable of bunkering down like that... but uruguay sure is, and that's all they need to do to get through.
to let go of the reins he needs horses. as it is the reins will just fall to the ground.
i don't see the uruguay match as being as off as all that. sure there were a couple of goals just asking to be scored, but altogether the match went pretty much to script.
the only two matches really up in the air are Mex-Fra and Mex-Uru and in neither of them do 3 points for el tri seem likely to me. perhaps just as unlikely for their opponents but their opponents don't need them.
I wouldn't feel overconfident. South Africa played quite well versus Mexico, but then they were given space. In a way, I think France and Uruguay are similar --and so far I remember those matches end in 0-0.
The Yanks have improved a lot. Now they have a good idea of strategical shifts, and this is a very solid team they have in midfield. You underestimate them at your peril.
Our matches have often been fermés because Ray has tended to use 2 récupérateurs or a lone striker with wingers that don't cross but run to overcrowd the centre.
Every Uruguay-France game this millennium has been a fascinating affair, even if every time it ended 0-0. I notice, though, that the tactical aspects of those matches tend to fly right over the head of most viewers.
I would definately rather lose 2-4 than draw 0-0 with France....
I really believe that we have it in our football to beat france. But pshycologically recovering from last night is what i'm not sure we have in us....
i'm no troll nor a cruel man by nature but i don't see the bafana bafana's problem as psychological.
2-4? 0-0? i don't think either of those options are open. but i'll eat my words like a man if i'm proven wrong.
Come now...you did not see lack of commitment and nerves in their play?
Direct match-up between the 2 teams that are in a tie.
Mexico/Uruguay or Uruguay/Mexico.
Uruguay has some sick, sick, strikers. If they had a better #10 and moved up Forlan, Uruguay would be a sick team.
Consistently? as of late? we have only played 3 games in this whole decade (2 wins mex, 1 draw). And overall we havent really played each other all that much. My point is having those games so far apart from each other can hardly be an indication of how this game will go, especially being the world cup which in this case is a much bigger game than a 3rd place play off in copa america.
May the force be with Mexico today boy am I nervous
While I'm rooting against France because of Domenech and the Henry handballs (though I usually like them based on style of play and karma deserved from the Schumaker hit in the 80s), and I usually root for my fellow CONCACAF teams (even Mexico), I'd like to give the hosts a glimmer of hope.
Thus, I'm pulling for a draw. If not, then a Mexico win.
MEXICO equipo local !!!
mexico home team!!
A Mexico win and a South Africa win, can help, but we need to bary Uruguay and South Africa needs to take care of France.
Exactly sorry Uruguayos but we have to show no mercy against you for the fact we don't know what the outcome of the SA vs France game will be so we can't take any chances. Here comes Bofo and Guadardo
Any news on Vela's injury?
Very good performance by Mexico... how close was that first goal? Looked close to me, the first time I saw it I thought he was off.
Mexico could be bound for the quarters. France look absolutely awful for the most part.
i thought he was offside too but seeing the replay he was onside... barely
Considering that assistant refs are advised not to call it offside when in doubt, I think it was a correct call.
And I believe this group is as good as decided now... even if there's a win in Mex-Uru, France basically needs to catch up 5 goals (1:0 for Uruguay or Mexico -> France needs to win 4:0 to advance) and I don't see that happening. Not considering how bad they have been so far. For South Africa, I have no hope at all, even if they manage win vs France, which I consider possible, if unlikely, they'll never catch up the goal difference.
Tonight Mexico pulled the miracle against a top euro team! Now we must show Uruguay no mercy what so ever!
Okay, so the question is how much risk mexico take to avoid playing argentina (when there's a possibility that France is able to catch up). I think they may line up defensive to make sure they contain Forlan. Once they see the halftime score from France/South Africa then they'll make a tactical decision.