Who Was Sampson's Judas?

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  1. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thomas Roengen.
     
  2. PSU92

    PSU92 Member

    Feb 27, 1999
    Annandale VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tony Meola = OX
     
  3. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    You, you're on my list.
     
  4. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bob Gansler said I swallow a lot of aggression. Along with a lot of pizzas.
     
  5. GoDC

    GoDC Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Hamilton, VA
    That is a good time though!!
     
  6. WHOLMAN2

    WHOLMAN2 New Member

    Dec 4, 2000
    Lahs Angeleez
    Dead wrong. My bad. :(
     
  7. Soccer-Six-Shooter

    Soccer-Six-Shooter New Member

    Jan 17, 2002
    Arlington, VA
    Ironically, Fitzgerald is now the coach at UCLA. Yes the former Columbus Crew coach. UCLA had the most players on a US WC team. That record will never be broken. Ex-UCLA players in Jones, Joe-Max, Freidel, Hedjuk, Lewis and almost made it with 6 players in Razov. So your Judas is some combination of above players. Would you actually call him a Judas or a Saint at this point?
     
  8. Testudo

    Testudo Member+

    Jan 29, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    never forget...

    the 3-6-1

    starting chad deering

    throwing claudio to the wolves

    raising indecision to an art form

    kuwait, macedonia, austria

    roy wegerle making the team

    the pissing contest with john harkes (john gets credit here, too)

    blaming his players

    to this day, never taking ANY responsibility for what happened
     
  9. wu-tang beez

    wu-tang beez New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Irving, TX
    Would that make clive charles the big toe?
     
  10. McGinty

    McGinty Member

    SKC/STL
    Aug 29, 2001
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    He said recently that he was ahead of his time, and alot of teams now put 6 in the midfield. His definition of midfield must be very broad. Most of the time it was the lone forward battling two or three German giants with no help in sight.

    He had a massive panic attack, and thought they might luck their way to the second round with some stupid formation. He showed no faith in his players by thinking his formation would do it, and not the players.

    Oh and the fact he had no idea how to bring a team together.

    Other than that, he's a terrific manager. :rolleyes:
     
  11. Northcal19

    Northcal19 New Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    Celtic Tavern LODO (
    An accurate assessment of his tremendous managerial skills. Oh yeah, and "Guys, this is Mr. Regis. Introduce yourselves around. Goose, show Daveed here how to play your former position. Thanks."
     
  12. eric515

    eric515 Member

    May 8, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would have to say it was Cobi Jones, since he looked most like the Judas from the original production of Jesus Christ, Superstar. :)
     
  13. MadSirAlexxx

    MadSirAlexxx Member

    Mar 21, 2002
    There are teams that do play with 6 in the midfield, but I guess that depends on how one defines midfield. Argentina crashed out of '02 playing a 3-3-3-1...hey maybe Sampson started a trend.
     
  14. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Steve Sampson is a funny story.

    I remember players talking about how they liked to play for him after the Copa America 95 and how the team seemed to be playing alright. I remember us being solid through qualifying with Sampson making some timely substitutions that produced results for us (thinking Preki for one).

    His entire 98 year was a wreck. BUT, it wasn't his fault that Mike Burns can hold a goal post and still let the ball go between him and the post. If that goal isn't scored who knows how we end up. His formation was obviously not effective as it produced 1 goal in 3 games.

    Defensively his team performed as good as Arena's team though.

    Sampson isn't the worst coach ever and he's not the best coach ever, but he had a solid 3 year run followed by a meltdown in the final year. And before blaming that all on Sampson, how many of his players started in this World Cup? Pope, Reyna, Agoos, Friedal...any others? It seems that Arena placed a good bit of the blame on the players in 98.
     
  15. eurojack

    eurojack Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Sampson WAS ahead of his time: the 3-6-1 and the fact that he benched Agoos back in '98 when he should not have been benched until 2002!
     
  16. Soccer-Six-Shooter

    Soccer-Six-Shooter New Member

    Jan 17, 2002
    Arlington, VA
    3-6-1 is a joke. Because you need at least 2 up front to play off each other. He can tweak it anyway you want it, but at LEAST TWO forwards up top or it just will not work. Period.
     
  17. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Sampson

    In short, he did a great job of bringing a beautiful lady to the dance. Then he showed up drunk.

    If the Dance was the World Cup then his date was not beautifull, It was very Ugly. Germany and Yugoslavia.
     
  18. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    He was horrible. His only success was with Bora's team. He had the team for 4 years and did absolutely nothing to develop new players. Compare it with what Arena did.
     
  19. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Re: Sampson

    he was useless. Let's face it.
     
  20. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    So he took Bora's team, no changes, and rolled the ball out. What a brilliant job.
     
  21. eurojack

    eurojack Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    But you have to admit, he was ahead of his time.

    He benched Agoos in 98: 4 years ahead of when he should actually have been benched in 2002!

    A true visionary - the DaVinci of his day.
     
  22. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Excellent!
     
  23. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Arena had much more to work with given the development of MLS. I agree that Arena is better, but he got a much better hand to begin with.

    If anything, Sampson should be criticized for trying to "develop" players instead of going with the tried and true that got us to the World Cup.
     
  24. Testudo

    Testudo Member+

    Jan 29, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not exactly. Eddie Lewis, Tony Sanneh, and Chris Armas were never in the picture with Sampson, but Arena plugged them in immediately and got a 3-0 win vs. Germany. Compare with the US's performance under Sampson at the World Cup only a matter of months before. Revisiting a highlight: Sampson opts for Chad Deering in the defensive midfield over Chris Armas.
     

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