Who should replace Trapattoni?

Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by SueB, Oct 18, 2002.

  1. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    These have been suggested as possible replacements for Italy manager Giovanni Trapattoni, if he resigns or is fired. Any others?
     
  2. phillips10

    phillips10 New Member

    Oct 15, 2001
    Cranford
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    never should have fired Zoff....but I guess he has too much pride to take the job back at this point?....

    he's my vote.
     
  3. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    Zoff wasn't fired; he quit after Berlusconi made some moronic remarks after the Euro2000 final. From what I've heard, he's not actually interested in taking the job back at this point, but I still included him just in case.
     
  4. phillips10

    phillips10 New Member

    Oct 15, 2001
    Cranford
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    that's right, but it was kind of a push from Berlusconi...

    their play of late seems miles from what it was during Euro 2000 under Zoff....too bad.
     
  5. denalimn

    denalimn New Member

    Jun 17, 2002
    Minnesota
    Steve Sampson
    Bora Mulitinovic

    or more seriously Fabio Capello. Is he even interested?
     
  6. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    Capello currently has gainful employment with Roma. I don't know how long his contract is for, but I don't think there's a chance of him moving anytime before the end of this season - unless Roma's form gets any worse than it has been at the start of the season.....
     
  7. oakydoaks

    oakydoaks New Member

    Apr 29, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Bruce Arena, Bruce Arena, Bruce Arena!
     
  8. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Where's Scolari? No seriously...

    http://jbonline.terra.com.br/extra/2002/10/18/e18102956.html

    According to that article (in Portuguese), Scolari is in Milan and was mentioned by Corriere della Sera as a possible "inexpensive" option for the Federation, although unlikely since their favorite is Zoff.

    I like how it begins... Felipão is being cited as a possible replacement for Trap... as soon as Trap is fired.

    Then in the end they do say that there are not really any indications that he's about to be fired, just plenty of popular pressure.

    Robert
     
  9. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    Some might say a foreign coach is just what the doctor ordered. And a successful one at that. But wasn't Big Phil pilloried by the Brazilians for his negative tactics - all the way up until they won the World Cup? Then again, I guess that style of play WOULD be a good fit with the Italian way of playing. I just doubt that it'll happen though.

    Here's another (far-fetched) possiblity, put forth by Pier Paolo Marino of Udinese - a pairing of Franco Bares and Luciano Moggi. :rolleyes:
     
  10. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    I'd like to see Zoff again but as someone said above, he has too much pride to be in charge again(maybe offer an apology to him will work??) but I think Baresi should think what is he doing with Fulham and take a shot at la azzurra.
     
  11. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    I thought Baresi and Fulham parted way some time ago. I think he's back with Milan in some capacity. Not sure he's got the experience necessary for the job, but then again somebody mentioned Rudi Voller, who is of the same era, and has done well with Germany with little previous coaching experience.
     
  12. De Niro2

    De Niro2 New Member

    Oct 5, 2002
    LOL he's with Milan now and he's been there for the latest month or so. You're a modertor, aren't you suppost to know these stuff...

    No one owes Dino Zoff an Apology for the destructive boring football he played for la nazionale back in euro 2000. He failed big time, just like Trap and no we don't want him back.

    Best thing would be a new coach with fresh ideas, like Del Neri from Chievo or Gentile from the u-21 team. But for now we'll stick with Trap, he won't be fired and the next group stage game will be played in March.
     
  13. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
  14. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    "but then again somebody mentioned Rudi Voller, who is of the same era, and has done well with Germany with little previous coaching experience."

    germany plays like crap you have to admit. They only got to the worldcup final because of oliver kahn, and lets not forget that this was one of the weakest world cups ever.
     
  15. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    BTW if he's with Milan that's news for me, try the link and will see why I thought he was in London.
     
  16. SueB

    SueB New Member

    Mar 23, 1999
    Waterbury, VT
    Well, I don't know if knowing anything is a job requirement for being a moderator. ;) I hate to contradict you again Mario, but shortly after that demotion, he resigned from Fulham completely:

    http://www.canoe.ca/Slam020821/soc_bar-ap.html
     
  17. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    ok my bad, obviously I missed that one.
     
  18. De Niro2

    De Niro2 New Member

    Oct 5, 2002
    Hey Sue, i just think a moderator should be a devoted fan of the club/national team/country whatever forum he/she is moderating and also have some knowlegde about what's going on. What news sites to you guys read btw?. Sportal.it is good so is Calciomercato.com They are both in italian though but good sources, cheers.
     
  19. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Actualy i am a devoted bianconeri fan :) and we read tons of links in both italian and english. I follow closely the nazionale, obviously Im not able to know everything :D
     
  20. Alex_1

    Alex_1 Member

    Mar 29, 2002
    Zürich
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    I think it was mis-interpreted. The way that Filipao managed in Brazil was this way - some of his club matches ended up with upwards of 50 fouls :eek:. Some say it is because that's the type of manager he is - but I disagree - I think it had a lot to deal with the hand he was dealt. In otherwords - the quality of his players. He instilled a hard nosed defensive, semi-"hack" approach when he first became manager of Brazil because in all honesty, it was what he immediately knew best and also, he wasn't familiar with the players as much as a manager who'd managed the team for longer (ala, Luxembourgo...).

    As the players came into form, as they learned his system and more than anything, as he learned about his players, he could experiment more and he let the players use a more "free" style. No mistake about it - Brazil won the cup not because Scolari is a genius (don't misunderstand, I think he's a terrific manager and very very tactically sound)... but because Ronaldo came back and finally, the team played together - and bought into his system.

    In the Italian style, I think that Scolari would be a good fit. He brings a lot to the table, and he really went through the furnace in Brazil so he's no stranger to pressure. But will Italy go for a foreign manager? I don't think they need one...
     
  21. Mario

    Mario New Member

    Mar 11, 2000
    San Salvador, El Sal
    Scolari knows nothing about italian footie, he would have a similar experience like he had when he took the commitment with the verdeamarelha
     
  22. Alex_1

    Alex_1 Member

    Mar 29, 2002
    Zürich
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Have to disagree to an extent. He's probably pretty familiar with the style and play - after all, admittedly, I believe he modeled some of his management tactics after them. The experience with Brazil when he started was hardly justified too - he was thrown right into the wolves - a team that was hardly a team and with no chemistry - upwards of 60 different players were with them through qualifying.

    What wouldn't be on Scolari's side is, once again, Time. Italy needs instant results for Euro 2004 - forget about WCQ for now. That is where he would be hurt + not having experience with the Italian Football Association.
     
  23. bestianera

    bestianera New Member

    May 21, 2001
    Valvasone
    alright,things are starting to get shaky for Trap...

    mr.Abete,who i believe is the vice president of FIGC now,has said the situation has to be evaluetad,Carraro is contradicting Trapattoni when he claims the problem arises from a lack of commitment of players and co-operation from clubs,and Trap talked back... well,it's easy to see where all this leads to.
    the FIGC needs time to talk Trapattoni into resignation,a difficult task that could be made easier if one of the struggling clubs of serie A makes a good offer to the national coach (hey,it could be Udinese! ;) ); otherwise,the federation will still owe Trap € 4 millions if they fire him

    another voice of discontent has come from one of the major sponsors of the Azzurri, Acqua Uliveto (mineral water),whose owner has questioned publicly the opportunity of investing all that money in a team who plays so badly and is losing appeal to the italian audience

    replacements? Capello is out of question,he's said he's not attracted by the national team and wants to end his career in the Bundesliga or Premiership if the right offer comes on the table,or right after his contract with Roma expires (2005)

    Baresi is the chief director of the youth teams of AC Milan

    Vialli is intriguing,but he chose Watford over much more prestigious positions last summer because he felt he needed to learn and grow more as a manager... sure he has the unconventional ideas and the balls to hold on his principles in hard times,he wouldn't panick like trapattoni did at the WC; on the other side though he's a strong and undiplomatic personality,not sure the FIGC brass likes the prospect of having to deal with it; and remember,he declared he was rooting AGAINST the Azzurri when Sacchi left him out of the WC 94 squad...

    Gentile's U-21 team has played spectacularly at times,and disappointed greatly other times: hard to tell where the merits (and faults) of the coach end,and where those of the young players start. i think it's way tooo premature to put him in such a critical situation

    Tardelli? OMG,i'm keeping Trapattoni,thanks
     
  24. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    I voted for Baresi for fun. Seriously, both him and Vialli shouldn't be on that list. Vialli needs to do more than his short stint at Chelsea and his HORRENDOUS tenure at Watford before he's allowed to approach coaching Italy.

    That said, Capello's gotta be the man for the job. Maybe Ranieri should be on that least? I'm sure Bates will let him go for some quick cash. Or, if they're ready to shake things up, a non Italian like Cuper if they could pry him away from Inter.
     
  25. bestianera

    bestianera New Member

    May 21, 2001
    Valvasone

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