Who should Dems put up for Prez in 2004?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Brad Cox, Nov 7, 2002.

  1. Brad Cox

    Brad Cox Member

    Jul 23, 2000
    Elgin IL
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    With the mid-term elections over the Democrats are going to be talking alot about who to put up against Bush in 2 years. So I thought I would ask who people think would be the best guy for the Democrats. If you think the Dems should put someone other than the choices don't vote in the poll and put who you think would be a good candidate.
     
  2. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
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    SS Lazio Roma
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    Italy
    I think the Democrats should nominate Hillary Clinton or maybe Gray Davis.
     
  3. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Bill Clinton.
     
  4. empennage

    empennage Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Phoenix, AZ
    Well they can. All they have to do is change the Constitution. Oh wait... Nevermind they don't have control of Congress. HAHAHAHAHA!!!;)
     
  5. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    I hear Walter Mondale is available and has time on his hands .....
     
  6. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
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    John Edwards, or someone else new. Not the usual suspects.
     
  7. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Only Kerry would have a chance at unseating Bush. As a conservative I hope they run Gore or Hillary Clinton.


    Alex
     
  8. Karl K

    Karl K Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    Suburban Chicago
    If the Democrats were smart -- a questionable assumption, but let's go with it -- they would nominate Gary Hart.

    An independent outsider, a writer of thoughtful books, a sensible centrist, a smart guy who can think on his feet, up to speed on the homeland security issue, and with the Donna Rice thing WAY WAY behind him. (Marriage of 30 years supposedly stronger than ever).

    He's the guy. But watch Gore try again, and muck it up, even it he doesn't get it.
     
  9. TheWakeUpBomb

    TheWakeUpBomb Member

    Mar 2, 2000
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    I nominate this loyal Democrat. All you have to do is get him to change his beverage of choice so you don't piss off the left wing of the party:

    [​IMG]
     
  10. jamison

    jamison Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    NYC
    Dan Loney.


    Okay, maybe not.


    Kerry would be a good choice, as he's not a total dirtbag.
     
  11. Nate505

    Nate505 Member

    Feb 10, 2002
    Colorado
    How about 'anyone but Al Gore'?
     
  12. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Damn, I really hope this poll accurately reflects the views of Dems nationwide...if so, looks like Bush gets to defeat Gore again (the poll is 5-5 but one of the Kerry votes is from me)


    Alex
     
  13. Alan S

    Alan S Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    Palo Alto, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Could someone that has time list the Democrat govenors in the southern states. It seems like southern govenors are a source of strong Democratic presidential candidates. I don't think anyone on that list has a real chance.

    G. Bush Gov. Texas
    B. Clinton Gov. Arkansa - Dem.
    R. Reagan Gov. California
    J. Carter Gov. Georgia - Dem.
     
  14. TheWakeUpBomb

    TheWakeUpBomb Member

    Mar 2, 2000
    New York, NY
    Club:
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    Phil Bredesen, just elected governor of Tennessee, is one to keep an eye on, not for 2004, but perhaps 2008. He did an outstanding job as mayor of Nashville, and is sharp as a tack.

    There was actually Roy Barnes talk earlier this year, but I think we can take his name off the list.
     
  15. Alan S

    Alan S Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    Palo Alto, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Did a quick search and found this list. I don't know anything about these people, so could those who know pick a few potential candidates from this list.

    (Again the theory here is the southern democratic governors are centrist enough to appeal to a large base of voters.)

    Mark Warner (D) - Virginia
    Jim Hodges (D) - S. Carolina
    Mike Easley (D) - N. Carolina
    Paul Patton (D) - Kentucky
    Ronnie Musgrove (D) - Missippi (Should be exclude just for his name)
    Bob Holden (D) - Missouri


    [NOTE: Bomb and I posted at the same time.
    changed to take his comments into account.]
     
  16. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    I saw him on Nightline tonight. You know, he looks older than the hills, at least to someone who remembers him from the 1980s, but Karl may bwe right. For the next two years the Democratic house is going to go around ankle-biting Bush on security issues, which will stimulate the left-wing base but alienate the American middle. It'll be like McGovern all over again. Hart may not win the nominaiton, but Deomcrats would be wise to pay him heed, as he may teach them how to talk about security issues without violating their ideals. That's if they are not too busy running around in their tie-dies and Che shirts to listen.
     
  17. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Given the four choices, none of the above.
     
  18. bmurphyfl

    bmurphyfl Member

    Jun 10, 2000
    VT
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    [​IMG]

    I know I sound like a broken record but I like Howard Dean, the current Governor of VT (he didn't run for re-election so he could focus on his presidential campaign).

    His background:

    - Yale 1971; Albert Einstein College of Medicine 1978
    - VT State Rep 1982-1986
    - VT Lt. Gov 1986-1991
    - VT Gov 1991-2002
    - Also worked as a physician until becoming Gov in 1991

    His record:

    - Guaranteed health coverage to every child 18 and under in VT
    - Cut income taxes twice (never raised them)
    - Removed the sales tax on clothing
    - Paid off an inherited $70M deficit and built up "rainy day reserves" for economic downturns
    - Preserved over a million acres of farmland, shore fronts, working forests and wilderness.
    - Helped pass the civil unions law
    - Closed 76 leaking VT landfills

    His pitch:

    Governor Dean is considered a common sense moderate who believes that social justice and environmental protection can only be accomplished through strong financial management.

    Murf
     
  19. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
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    If they think they can win, Edwards. If they think they're going to lose, Gore.
     
  20. csc7

    csc7 New Member

    Jul 3, 2002
    DC
    Well, Kerry's the right name, but you have the wrong Kerrey. Bob would be a really good choice. Downside: story emerged last year about his unit in Viet Nam possibly being involved in the slaughter of innocents. Don't know the truth, don't think anyone ever will. But American's don't seem to be too concerned with the human rights of foreigners right now, so even if it were true and he was guilty of something I don't think it would politically matter.

    Also Wesley Clark, NATO Commander during Kosovo. Before you righties go and bash him for Kosovo, he wrote a book (Waging Modern Warfare) that was somewhat critical of the process by which decisions were made and was well received by defense people on both sides of the aisle. He's from Arkansas and pretty telegenic. He's a foreign policy expert that has disagreements with many things done in the Bush war on terrorism. Weaknesses are lack of political experience (hey, didn't hurt Ike) and like Colin Powell back in the day, no one knows his domestic policy leanings.

    Let's see Dean go, but I don't think he's going to work nationally.
     
  21. YanksFC

    YanksFC Member

    Feb 3, 2000
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    What he said.
     
  22. Karl K

    Karl K Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    Suburban Chicago
    Murf, interesting guy, this Dean. Knew nothing about him until I saw your post.
     
  23. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
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    Manchester United FC
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    Ireland Republic
    Makes a welcome changes from the usual lawyer/business pols. He sounds interesting.
     
  24. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Alot of guys who were governor when Clinton's boom was going on have great records on cutting taxes while expanding programs. I'm not criticizing him, just pointing out that these credentials are hardly unique.
     
  25. csc7

    csc7 New Member

    Jul 3, 2002
    DC
    Being from Vermont (home of Leahy and Jeffords) and having passed a law allowing Civil Unions for gay people means he does not win a single state in the south and losses most in the west.

    I don't think dems can win the Presidency without breaking up the Rep hold on the south
     

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