Who is the most overrated all time great?

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Neron Nuñez, Jul 7, 2024.

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Who are the most overrated all time greats?

  1. R9

    10 vote(s)
    22.2%
  2. Zidane

    8 vote(s)
    17.8%
  3. Cristiano Ronaldo

    19 vote(s)
    42.2%
  4. Ronaldinho

    8 vote(s)
    17.8%
  1. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    Brazilian National Team side ..... is much more easier to play always

    than Northern Ireland or Liberia or Portugal or Netherlands ..or Nigeria or Cameroon

    and to win Titles always



    Andrew Jennings journalist .... CBF ... Nike ..... Barcelona FC ... Fifa

    says : are corrupt ...
    manipulated world football

    Brazil is in favor

    and West Germany mainly




    John Havelange and Doctor Ricardo Teixeira !
     
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  2. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    C. Ronaldo 0, 97 % .. All career
    Romário 0, 93 % ..All career
    Ronaldo Nazario 0, 89 %......All career





    C. Ronaldo has more pre-assists than Ronaldo Nazario All career


    only to use the metrics from National Team Side ( Brazil vs Portugal )


    it is wrong to do for sure .!


    C. Ronaldo .. is better and more complete player than Nazario

    from day and night !
     
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  3. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member

    Jan 28, 2020
    Eusebio arrived in a Benfica team that was already European champion in 1960 against Barcelona. That Benfica team was very good with Coluna, Jose Augusto etc In the Champions League comparison, Eusebio was favored for being European and joining a champion team since young age. His performance in 1966 was excellent, but it doesn't look like his standard performance, with qualifying round exits in two World Cups and two Euros.

    Eusebio's goal tally may have been inflated because he played in the Portuguese league, which was much weaker than the Italian or Spanish leagues of the 90s.

    So, i lean towards Ronaldo Nazario but I respect your opinion.
     
  4. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Goals in WC/European Cup/CL tournaments

    Eusebio
    55 goals in 71 games
    0.77 goals per game


    Ronaldo Nazario
    29 goals in 59 games
    0.49 goals per game

    good player vs super player
     
  5. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  6. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    yes .... Eusebio 12 National Leagues won All career


    Ronaldo Nazario ... 1 National League won 2002/03 All career




    Eusebio 12 against Ronaldo Nazario 1 !
     
  7. Al Gabiru

    Al Gabiru Member

    Jan 28, 2020
    Yes, but Ronaldo Nazario has a good advantage in assists

    One of the strengths of Ronaldo Nazario, who was the G+A leader in two World Cups (1998 and 2002) and one World Cup qualifier (2006). Not that he was a great passer. But he was dangerous

    Yes, but these were Portuguese league titles

    I think they had a similar playing style, physically strong, similar height, hungry for goals, but Ronaldo Nazario has a better career and faced stronger competition throughout his career. But I respect different opinions
     
  8. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    I don't believe that Eusebio has lesser assists than Ronaldo Nazario .. All career is wrong to confirm this that Eusebio is lesser assister than Nazario

    Ronaldo Nazario 19 matches ... 15 goals ... 4 assists ..

    3 assists in 1998 ( to bebeto and rivaldo ) 1 assist ( to Adriano Drunk boy ) in 2006

    dribbles made per 90 minutes 3,42 % per game

    vs



    Eusebio 6 matches ..... 9 goals ... 2 assists ( 1 direct assist to Torres corner-kick and 1 indirect assist crossing with left foot to Simões against Brazil 3-1 )


    dribbles made per 90 minutes 5,83 % per game 1966















    go to 42: 30 minutes in the first half against Feyenoord in 1962


    Eusebio had Long Range Pass better than Ronaldo Nazario
    had Crossing with either feet better too ..



    drawing with Ronaldo Nazario Plays one-twos ... or short passes ... and pass deeper




    you mean that was easier to play against Real Madrid of PUskas ,,, Di Stefano ... Gento ... Santamaria


    Santos FC Pelé Zito ..Gilmar Mauro Ramos ... Carlos Alberto Torres ...Clodoaldo ....Toninho Guerreiro ..


    Penarol ... Figueroa ... Pedro Rocha ... Spencer

    than against the limited Carles Puyol Barcelona ... Sensini ... Ayala Vivas Chamot???
     
  9. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  10. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    #235 carlito86, Aug 12, 2024
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2024
    Eusebio being a superior all round attacker to Ronaldo Nazario is closer to a fact than a opinion

    it’s highly amusing that when we come to the guy with 1.5 goals per game in the so called highest standard of competition along with his almost 6 dribbles per game
    now all of a sudden dribbles don’t matter and Ronaldo Nazários shitty 2 yard side way assists matter
    That’s why you are the king of changing the goalposts

    As for the rest
    You can be big and strong with similar height and still get knocked the f**k out
    Ever heard of this guy
    IMG_5059.jpeg
    And Eusebios career literally KOs R9s
     
  11. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024




    yes ..... for sure .. !


    i agree with you dear mate ! hahahahaha !



    with Ronaldo Nazario ... Ronaldinho Gaucho is too much Bla bla bla bla bla always

    Fan Boys of them .... are crazy people for sure ..


    only they are watching highlights at Dribbles ... firulas at You tube that's it man


    are mental sick people
     
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  12. Tropeiro

    Tropeiro Member+

    Jun 1, 2018
    The typicals are missing this point completely, but no surprise coming from them.

    Also they are missing R9 had huge impact on his best three-peak years (96/97, 97/98 and 02/03), performing very well in the European stage for his clubs here.
     
  13. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024



    hahahahahahha !!
     
  14. SayWhatIWant

    SayWhatIWant Member+

    Jan 10, 2015
    Yes, because the entire world is unanimous about R9, and yet, somehow completely wrong about him. And two dudes on BigSoccer know better. This forum never ceases to amaze me.
     
  15. Tropeiro

    Tropeiro Member+

    Jun 1, 2018
    Yet R9 is the second or the third brazilian best player OAT, you know that right?
     
  16. Tropeiro

    Tropeiro Member+

    Jun 1, 2018
    They are wrong, that's why.
     
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  17. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024





    But Carlito 86 .... and Isaias Serafim o brasileiro they are not lying in anytime here on this forum


    bring it back the numbers correctly ! and concret things !



    is question to respect the them visions as well !
     
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  18. Tropeiro

    Tropeiro Member+

    Jun 1, 2018
    I think you are the mental sick one, dude.
     
  19. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    i spoke on brazilians from here ! from Brazil


    do you live in Brazil ???


    i'm brazilian !
     
  20. Tropeiro

    Tropeiro Member+

    Jun 1, 2018
    Maybe you are too limited too think in that way. I answered them in another threads already... it is total waste of time... as well as I have better points than them (completely), they are just using ad-hominens (as you can see per this thread), mediocre arguments and flawed analogies. R9 is probably the second Best Brazilian player OAT (or the third one if you consider Garrincha's 62 as immaculate), definitely ahead of Neymar, Zico or Romário.. players that I covered largely in the past; Brazil's never had a talent who was World's Best Player at age of 20 and probably will never have again.
     
  21. Tropeiro

    Tropeiro Member+

    Jun 1, 2018

    Of course I am.
     
  22. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    yes I prefer Pelé !
     
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  23. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024
  24. Tropeiro

    Tropeiro Member+

    Jun 1, 2018
    Pelé is clearly the best Brazilian player OAT and for me clearly the GOAT. I usually put Messi and Cruyff alongside him, but a level below both.
     
  25. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024






    Zagallo está mentindo então ali ???
     

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